Smilegate is this really all you can offer NA

Crossfire just gets worse day by day, literally glitchers in nearly every map that has boxes or crates, especially on castle. The hit boxes get worse and worse day by day and with no fixes, today when i played i went up to someone in a spawn who was AFK point blank shot their head 3 times, 1 okay i get it possible helmet, two wtf, three are you serious? 3 bullets to kill someone who isnt moving point blank...
Really smilegate is this the best you can do? ive been a loyal fan for about 4 or more years now and honestly it gets harder and harder to log on, i watched the game go from perfect where you COULD PEAK and not die 2 seconds after already being behind cover, i watched it go from one zp crate every other month or so to it being one crate nearly every tuesday(which means they want more and more money). thats a lot of work to put into something worthless when you could be fixing oh i dont know, YOUR GAME, that is more important than a stupid crate nobody needs.

Ive spent a lot of money on this game and it sucks knowing that i kind of have to play it for that reason but dont enjoy playing it half the time. I really am sick and tired of shooting somebody 8 times on my screen before they even get one bullet off and i still die to their first shot when i had already shot them enough to kill them twice. With 200+fps steady and a 60-70 ping, i know its not my fault and honestly, if i shoot someone 8 times what more could i possibly of done, i already shot you enough to kill you twice, what more could i possibly do...

Not to mention this community is absolutely horrible, the stupid egyptians who kick you just for having a vip gun even if you dont use it, or they follow you around the whole map, or I get kicked for actually doing good but yet the enemy team wont kick a glitcher or a hacker whos actually doing something wrong. And when you so much as bring up how you shot someone 8 TIMES and they didnt die, they just say you suck, get better, which shows how ignorant and stupid they are because obviously they read it but couldnt comprehend it. Seriously someone explain to me how that is possible, from both of my examples, shooting an AFK person 3 times in the head to kill them point blank, or shooting someone 8 times before they shoot one bullet and they still get the kill instantly on their first bullet without it being a headshot...

I honestly cant understand what smilegate is doing with the money they make, they rank right up there with dota and league and cs go when it comes to money, yet the game only gets worse instead of better, not to mention NA is abused and denied content for 6 months if not more thats already out to other versions. I cant remember the last time i played a match that was 100% fun without something stupid happening.
Yes i understand it is a game and it is not perfect, but it also isnt that imperfect. If i had a 200 ping and only 30 fps i would do fine but i am punished for having 200+ fps and a 60 ping( Great example of this is LADDERS, its proven the more fps you have the slower you go up ladders, the less you have the faster you skyrocket up them). WHAT kind of a game punishes people for having a better set up than somebody else, it doesnt matter if your playing against people with around your same setup, but its sad to think if you go against somebody with a worse setup than you, that YOUR at the disadvantage and not them because lag and bad fps saves them.

Keep going like this smilegate and watch NA shutdown, you already abuse us content wise and patchwise and fixing glitches wise and error wise, but now your game thats been on a steady downhill slope is getting progressively worse FASTER. And you dont even care what the community wants Example A m4a1 custom, NOBODY WANTED THAT SUPPRESSOR CHANGE, NOT A SINGLE PERSON ASKED FOR IT, you literally ruined my favorite gun, so good job on that one. You dont listen to the community, you dont ask them what they want or what they think, so what if its your game, you need to ask the people that PLAY it what THEY think of it.

When is the equal and fair treatment going to come? Ide love to have the china version of this for a day and see how it is, BTW the fact that your not supposed to compare versions just proves how they want to silence anybody who has a brain enough to see just how unfair they treat us compared to other versions, they expect us to just accept it and stay hush hush. Lets not even go into the touchy subject of THE CLAN PAGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR ABOUT A FREAKING YEAR OR SO, china cf has a clan page, WHY DONT WE. Is this really all you have to offer smilegate?

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  • Did you even watched the interview with JuiceBox on twitch? or at least saw this topic? http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=306256
  • Example of a bad community right there, "LEL nice wall of letters" another person not smart enough to comprehend something because they are intimidated by length. And yes i did watch that video, its what sort of inspired me to write this as i felt he left out some things like how the games gameplay itself is getting worse, unless i missed that part. But i didnt watch the interview as ive basically already given up on anything they say, they dont do half the things they say they are going to, and what they do actually do, only takes a damn year or so to happen.
  • Example of a bad community right there, "LEL nice wall of letters" another person not smart enough to comprehend something because they are intimidated by length. And yes i did watch that video, its what sort of inspired me to write this as i felt he left out some things like how the games gameplay itself is getting worse, unless i missed that part. But i didnt watch the interview as ive basically already given up on anything they say, they dont do half the things they say they are going to, and what they do actually do, only takes a damn year or so to happen.

    not smart enough? sorry im not like you and go and waste my time complaining to a company that dosent care what we have to say.
  • AGAIN your ignorance just blasting out of the screen buddy, its not a waste of time to bring awareness to the COMMUNITY, i never once said this is for smilegate, alot of fingers were pointed at smilegate and directed to them, but i never once said that this was for them specifically, i already said they dont care about the community, so all in all this is to bring attention to the community, the more people that are made aware of this, the faster the community can come together and demand change, think of it as a peaceful protest against the government, but against smilegate instead.
  • Example of a bad community right there, "LEL nice wall of letters" another person not smart enough to comprehend something because they are intimidated by length. And yes i did watch that video, its what sort of inspired me to write this as i felt he left out some things like how the games gameplay itself is getting worse, unless i missed that part. But i didnt watch the interview as ive basically already given up on anything they say, they dont do half the things they say they are going to, and what they do actually do, only takes a damn year or so to happen.

    Because its not like they "own" the game,Z8 only takes care of it,Smilegate in Korea is the one pulling the strings and deciding. Z8 only passes the community's (and their) ideas to Smilegate and thats all.

    We all know how greedy Smilegate is (how much they make VS. how much they put into competitive scene) and they're also very confident (CF's main rival in China,CSO,already has a 2nd version:CSO2 while I dont see any Crossfire 2 because its still a huge money making game for Smilegate so they dont need a new one)
  • DarkArtZ wrote: »
    not smart enough? sorry im not like you and go and waste my time complaining to a company that dosent care what we have to say.

    Yup,they don't listen to common players mostly,only if most of community asks them to,like the kick vote system suggestion thread but i think it's dying also and it seems like GM's haven't picked-up a suggestion to implement or they don't care anymore.

    Most of good players are leaving and their are many reasons.New games are being released which have better graphics,options,community etc.If CF NA wants to survive and compete,they need some major updates and changes.

    Btw few of people complained about the silencer of m4a1 Custom's but those players received negative impression from other players as they own multiple zp guns/vip's and yeah this community is the major hurdle toward a good change.
  • AGAIN your ignorance just blasting out of the screen buddy, its not a waste of time to bring awareness to the COMMUNITY, i never once said this is for smilegate, alot of fingers were pointed at smilegate and directed to them, but i never once said that this was for them specifically, i already said they dont care about the community, so all in all this is to bring attention to the community, the more people that are made aware of this, the faster the community can come together and demand change, think of it as a peaceful protest against the government, but against smilegate instead.

    im sure the community are aware of this we/they have been aware of it for a while. but as you said im just ignorant what would i know about it?
  • not reading all that, but i awsume is complaining about z8 cheating their customers out of something, i think z8 has been doin alright by the players last few events, great even, escpially for us gp players that cant afford zp, even though i still dont have a m249 which drives me insane considering how much effort i put into get that dam thing,, sill very grateful to z8 for the events lately thank you
  • Is this guy the real "DragonKush", seen him a few times.
    1. Learn the where the glitches are, avoid them.
    2. That afk was probably still connecting, or you coulda lagged.
    3. Everyone is a loyal fan, even that ahmed guy.
    4. Its actually easier to login time and time again, they had a patch for it. Fast and clean :)
    5. Learn2peek. You dont peek a 10 ping the same way you peek a 200 ping.
    6. Many ppl collect zp crates. They spend a lot of money just like you.
    7. If you cant kill them, play smarter. Camp dem noobs
    8. Egy gonna Egy.
    9. Dont climb ladders? lol
    10. CFNA is not going to shutdown for a long while.
    11. "NOT A SINGLE PERSON ASKED FOR IT" - I would have. Thats 1 person, and probably many more.
    12. Try communicating with them through support page or social media.
    13. It takes a while to integrate the clan page into the NA system, its a lot of work for the CF team plus all the events and work they already have. On top of that they have to keep up with those people who keep complaining on the forums like they are some VIP member on the forum or feel like they're more special than the next ahmed. (Shots fired.)
  • Massive Tl:Dr

    I feel you fellow Z8Gamer... ...but not on all points. As a LS player, I could totally sympathize. Forgive me if I go too off-topic.
    Crossfire just gets worse day by day, literally glitchers in nearly every map that has boxes or crates, especially on castle. The hit boxes get worse and worse day by day and with no fixes, today when i played i went up to someone in a spawn who was AFK point blank shot their head 3 times, 1 okay i get it possible helmet, two wtf, three are you serious? 3 bullets to kill someone who isnt moving point blank...
    Really smilegate is this the best you can do? ive been a loyal fan for about 4 or more years now and honestly it gets harder and harder to log on, i watched the game go from perfect where you COULD PEAK and not die 2 seconds after already being behind cover, i watched it go from one zp crate every other month or so to it being one crate nearly every tuesday(which means they want more and more money). thats a lot of work to put into something worthless when you could be fixing oh i dont know, YOUR GAME, that is more important than a stupid crate nobody needs.

    While I haven't been on CF recently, it seems like it, like LS, has a hacking issue that is getting WAY out of hand. The nature of these hacks/issues are similar.
    The issue with latency is also prevalent in LS as there are more and more foreigners, primarily Indonesians and Latin Americans. The majority of the players in LS who are from the US has a massive stigma against foreigners since they can't hit them (at all in some cases), ergo game-breaking lag + rage ensues.

    Ive spent a lot of money on this game and it sucks knowing that i kind of have to play it for that reason but dont enjoy playing it half the time. I really am sick and tired of shooting somebody 8 times on my screen before they even get one bullet off and i still die to their first shot when i had already shot them enough to kill them twice. With 200+fps steady and a 60-70 ping, i know its not my fault and honestly, if i shoot someone 8 times what more could i possibly of done, i already shot you enough to kill you twice, what more could i possibly do...

    Latency issues, LS is experiencing this too (see above).
    Not to mention this community is absolutely horrible, the stupid egyptians who kick you just for having a vip gun even if you dont use it, or they follow you around the whole map, or I get kicked for actually doing good but yet the enemy team wont kick a glitcher or a hacker whos actually doing something wrong. And when you so much as bring up how you shot someone 8 TIMES and they didnt die, they just say you suck, get better, which shows how ignorant and stupid they are because obviously they read it but couldnt comprehend it. Seriously someone explain to me how that is possible, from both of my examples, shooting an AFK person 3 times in the head to kill them point blank, or shooting someone 8 times before they shoot one bullet and they still get the kill instantly on their first bullet without it being a headshot...

    Word, but then again, most players (including myself, depending on the mood/game) would take full advantage of an AFK player. This goes for all games, not just CF / LS.
    With regards to hackers, all I have to say is that all instances should be reported to helpdesk immediately and if you don't like hackers in your rooms, just leave.

    I honestly cant understand what smilegate is doing with the money they make, they rank right up there with dota and league and cs go when it comes to money, yet the game only gets worse instead of better, not to mention NA is abused and denied content for 6 months if not more thats already out to other versions. I cant remember the last time i played a match that was 100% fun without something stupid happening.

    I bet most of it is going straight to Korea; exact same situation happening in LS. We have been saturated with client errors, glitches, and poorly translated text and such since day 1.
    Yes i understand it is a game and it is not perfect, but it also isnt that imperfect. If i had a 200 ping and only 30 fps i would do fine but i am punished for having 200+ fps and a 60 ping( Great example of this is LADDERS, its proven the more fps you have the slower you go up ladders, the less you have the faster you skyrocket up them). WHAT kind of a game punishes people for having a better set up than somebody else, it doesnt matter if your playing against people with around your same setup, but its sad to think if you go against somebody with a worse setup than you, that YOUR at the disadvantage and not them because lag and bad fps saves them.

    Lost Saga.
    Keep going like this smilegate and watch NA shutdown, you already abuse us content wise and patchwise and fixing glitches wise and error wise, but now your game thats been on a steady downhill slope is getting progressively worse FASTER. And you dont even care what the community wants Example A m4a1 custom, NOBODY WANTED THAT SUPPRESSOR CHANGE, NOT A SINGLE PERSON ASKED FOR IT, you literally ruined my favorite gun, so good job on that one. You dont listen to the community, you dont ask them what they want or what they think, so what if its your game, you need to ask the people that PLAY it what THEY think of it.

    Like I have said before, it's the same in LS since it too is going on a downhill slope of imbalance and metagame. However, as stated in some other threads, NACF gets its content (and the approval of it) from KCF. In LS's case, however, youtubers such as [MOD]Dawn (formerly) and [MOD]Takuya from the LS forums create videos on KLS to explain content updates and changes (which are at the very least 6 months ahead of NALS).
    When is the equal and fair treatment going to come? Ide love to have the china version of this for a day and see how it is, BTW the fact that your not supposed to compare versions just proves how they want to silence anybody who has a brain enough to see just how unfair they treat us compared to other versions, they expect us to just accept it and stay hush hush. Lets not even go into the touchy subject of THE CLAN PAGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR ABOUT A FREAKING YEAR OR SO, china cf has a clan page, WHY DONT WE. Is this really all you have to offer smilegate?

    This point of your 7-paragraph rant really hit me home since I have played every version of LS and, in my opinion, most are better than ours (trust me, I'm probably not going to go into why all versions of LS are better after typing all this out). It was not until recently that the rule of not being allowed to discuss other versions of LS was lifted since most of the community knows about the content in the Korean version anyway. You are right on the money when you said "BTW the fact that your not supposed to compare versions just proves how they want to silence anybody who has a brain enough to see just how unfair they treat us compared to other versions, they expect us to just accept it and stay hush hush.". and stands as proof that Z8Games is, as would the scrubs say, "salty af."
    I was wondering what happened to the clan page since I played CF on and off from 2012-ish.

    Nice wall of letters, etc etc etc.

    It's best if you all said nothing. OP is simply trying to voice his opinion to try to make the game you play better.

    @OP I hope what I have said here would give you understanding.