New M4A1 Idea

I was thinking how great it will be playing CrossFire with a M4A1 Grenadier. It can shot a grenade/ heart grenade a little further then throwing it. And it can shot peaple with bullets.
It will be faster then swiching from gun to grenade. And it can be sold for 3000 BZP or __#___ZP.


Please comment on this :)
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  • I dont think so
    bossyman wrote: »
    I was thinking how great it will be playing CrossFire with a M4A1 Grenadier. It can shot a grenade/ heart grenade a little further then throwing it. And it can shot peaple with bullets.
    It will be faster then swiching from gun to grenade. And it can be sold for 3000 BZP or __#___ZP.


    Please comment on this :)

    Well a m4 with a nade launcher would be very unfair lmao, if anything was added to m4 it should be a knife.
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  • nah, the m4 is pretty powerfull on it's own, especially if you've memorised it's spray pattern... now if you stuck a knife on a Sniper rifle... that would be pretty deadly.

    I suppose getting rid of the customs little dot in the scope, and replacing it with your chosen reticle would help allot though.
  • How about M4 with power of AK47 and recoil with scarlight , that would be cool .

    and color of ur choice ,

    cost about 100k ZP to buy permanently , I would buy it
  • 5hp wrote: »
    No, how about an M4 with .. wings?
    Not a bad idea ROFL!
  • dinofanz wrote: »
    How about M4 with power of AK47 and recoil with scarlight , that would be cool .

    and color of ur choice ,

    cost about 100k ZP to buy permanently , I would buy it


    Are you freaking serious?
  • 5hp wrote: »
    No, how about an M4 with .. wings?

    your gun would fly away and your stuck with pistol. GG
  • The M4A1 is too good for this. The M4A1 is extremely accurate, has very little recoil, has a good fire rate and is accessible at the start. If there was a grenade launcher in the game it should be a separate weapon (like an M79), or on something **** weak like an M16A1.
  • I don't know, I like the idea if its implemented properly. Its all about limiting the grenades. If the grenades for this gun replace the hand-throw grenades, then that problem is solved, for they are limited not only per game, and per type, but you would also need a special grenade pack to carry more grenades, especially similar ones.

    Naturally, a grenade launcher would have some advantage over hand-thrown grenades (range being one, accessing speed another) but you would be giving up your hand-thrown grenades and the speed at which you run when selected.

    Conclusion: If done right, this idea could have potential.
  • M4 with grenade launcher would kill the gameplay like a rocket launcher will do !!
    And knife for m4 suks too!
    I likely wont more like an silver or platin m4 custom !!
    And they should include assembly parts ! like scope bayonet silencers ! so u could make ur own special gun! Like golden m4 with silnecer and a red dot sight from the m4 custom ! or an acox 2x /4x zoom some like that would be awesome !!^^
  • No it wouldn't. Normal grenades don't kill game-play, so why would a grenade launched from a launcher do that?

    If, for example, the player would have to pay separately for the M203 grenades, and would have to place it in the grenade section to use it, then the launcher would only give him a small advantage of range and equipping speed. Kinda like what the AK-47 knife now does for the knife.

    Let me break it down for ya.


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    The M4A1/M203 rifle:

    Left Mouse button: 30/90 bullets
    Right Mouse button: 0/0 grenades

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    The M203 grenade:

    1 use per spawn, needs to be placed in the grenade section. Has slightly greater range than a normal frag grenade, due to the M203 launcher, but the same damage.

    Without a multi grenade pack, a player won't be able to use more than 1 M203 grenades, just like he wouldn't be able to use more than 1 frag grenades. Plus, most games wouldn't allow multiple grenades anyway.

    See? Problem solved.
  • If the grenade launcher's grenades explode on detonation, then they have a big advantage over standard grenades.

    Anyway, the Common Suggestions thread says no grenade launchers are likely to make it into the game.
  • ChaosWrath wrote: »
    If the grenade launcher's grenades explode on detonation, then they have a big advantage over standard grenades.

    Anyway, the Common Suggestions thread says no grenade launchers are likely to make it into the game.
    That's because people have been suggesting grenadelaunchers like found in Quack games. Those that have grenades instead of bullets. And that would be overkill

    And you mean, explode on impact. And that depends. I usually get killed by a frag grenade, because it bounced off a wall or floor in my direction. The M203 grenade, that explodes on impact, would not have that advantage anymore. So no more bouncing your nade off a wall to kill that camper around the corner.
  • just make a rival to the ak knife and make the m4a1 knife!
  • xxROBxx wrote: »
    just make a rival to the ak knife and make the m4a1 knife!
    The M4A1/M203 would be a rival to the AK 47 Knife, but without being another copy-cat.
  • Change M4 back to as it were 15, 30 patches ago to get a good gun.
  • LolliRoger wrote: »
    That's because people have been suggesting grenadelaunchers like found in Quack games. Those that have grenades instead of bullets. And that would be overkill

    And you mean, explode on impact. And that depends. I usually get killed by a frag grenade, because it bounced off a wall or floor in my direction. The M203 grenade, that explodes on impact, would not have that advantage anymore. So no more bouncing your nade off a wall to kill that camper around the corner.

    If I'm thinking of what you're thinking, I can't remember anybody suggesting a relatively fast firing, high ammo capacity grenade launcher, à la Quake.

    Whilst it might prevent you from bouncing the grenades, a grenade that exploded on impact (thanks for the correction) would be (IMHO) rather overpowered. A single shot to the feet would be an instant kill most of the time, and provided the grenade flies at a moderately fast speed there's not much that can be done to prevent it.
  • ChaosWrath wrote: »
    If I'm thinking of what you're thinking, I can't remember anybody suggesting a relatively fast firing, high ammo capacity grenade launcher, à la Quake.

    Whilst it might prevent you from bouncing the grenades, a grenade that exploded on impact (thanks for the correction) would be (IMHO) rather overpowered. A single shot to the feet would be an instant kill most of the time, and provided the grenade flies at a moderately fast speed there's not much that can be done to prevent it.
    A M203 Grenade wouldn't be flying through the air in a straight line, or at the speed of a bullet, but rather at a lower curve and up to twice the distance and speed of a frag grenades.

    And usually when you see a frag grenade coming at you, there is very little you can do to dodge it, because of the element of surprise. It was either coming over the wall or crate you where hiding behind, or bounces off a wall around the corner of a building. with a M203 you'd be much more forced to face your opponent because the curve is alot less, and it won't bounce off. With a frag grenate in most maps, you can throw it from a save spot, by just aiming it at the stars above. You won't be able to do that with a M203 grenade, because you will only overshoot the entire playing field.

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    Also, people may not have suggested the Quake version of a grenade launcher, but I'm pretty sure I've seen the RG-6 being suggested once or twice. Which would be overdoing it a bit.
  • nope, the GM's have already said no grenade launchers.
  • 5hp wrote: »
    No, how about an M4 with .. wings?

    I approve this idea!
  • I think if it would be a one shot Launcher it would be ok.
    It would be cool rushing down the ramp in Santoria as GR and and place this nade in the hored of noobs trying to get in the vent thingy.

    Perhaps it would be more fair with a slightly reduced radius for the nade but it would give u the advantage of a nade u dont need to switch for wht could be real handy in some situations or killing urself.
  • there are allready enough m4a1 guns :rolleyes:
  • i already hate nades, and now 1 of my favourite guns is gonna shoot them at me lol
  • 5hp wrote: »
    No, how about an M4 with .. wings?

    An m4... with wings AND a grenade launcher. Oh yesss.
  • i was trying to get at like they are like normal nades but the lancher just gives it extra distance. You only get one nade like you always do. And it elimates the time to change from gun to nade.

    so left click to shoot bullets and right click to shot the one nade.
  • LolliRoger wrote: »
    A M203 Grenade wouldn't be flying through the air in a straight line, or at the speed of a bullet, but rather at a lower curve and up to twice the distance and speed of a frag grenades.

    And usually when you see a frag grenade coming at you, there is very little you can do to dodge it, because of the element of surprise. It was either coming over the wall or crate you where hiding behind, or bounces off a wall around the corner of a building. with a M203 you'd be much more forced to face your opponent because the curve is alot less, and it won't bounce off. With a frag grenate in most maps, you can throw it from a save spot, by just aiming it at the stars above. You won't be able to do that with a M203 grenade, because you will only overshoot the entire playing field.

    This applies only if people attempt to use the grenade launcher as merely an improved/alternate version of the normal grenade.

    I'm envisioning people running around with the grenade launcher out, shooting at the feet of enemies and getting easy instant kills. Alternatively, it could be like the grenade spammage in Egypt, made more accurate and targeted at individual people, then applied to all maps.
  • I think they should make a M4A1-C without the suppresor, that would be badass :D