Cheaters

gator51 wrote: »

I really like this game, but after months of playing, I think I’ve had enough. Nprotect is a damn joke. Just came out of a game, 20 players, about 9 cheating. None of these stupid players will kick the cheaters. You guys at Z8 games cant ban them, or should I say will not ban them. You guys need to fire nprotect, call punk busters and try and clean this game up. I guess I shouldn’t complain about a free game. But when so many cheat, let me stress that, Soooooooo many cheat, it kills the game for the real gamer. Real Gamer ( the guy that will pay to play ) I would never pay one dime for a game with so many cheaters. Have you guys just give up? Your game is going in the crapper. I have spent many bucks on games, but would never pay for this crap. I don’t know what the answer is, but this is not working for you guys. Cheating is all this game is about. If you are a great gamer, don’t play this game, it will just **** you off. Fix Your Game Z8!!!!!

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I have already see hackers but not so much like you are saying!
in one week i see most of the time 3-5 hackers so not very much. And also in pay and play games are hackers!
for me it looks like that you are on of this noobs that calls everything a hacker that kills them one time to much!!!

why do all noobs want PB

really PB wont help ...
we had it on our battlefield server and the only way to keep cheaters of is by screenshotting em ...

hold on a minute cuz everyone cries hacker all the time. people always call me a hacker whenever my score is better than theirs and they end up kicking me from the game which is really annoying now. players that can't handle actual good players shouldn't be playing this game at all. yu can't fire nprotect, nprotect is a program designed to detect hacks. and there is no 100% way to protect the game from hacks because people will always find new code caves from cheat engine to design a new hack to by pass yur nprotect. lol in the gaming community, there is no way to get rid of ALL hackers and i know this from experience in the different games i play.

I find it amusing how people still suggest PB to be used as our new anti hack system when they have no idea of how it works...

gator51 wrote: »

Just came out of a game, 20 players, about 9 cheating.

probably the thing closest to truth in your entire post (apart from saying GG sucks )

Because of the few hackers out there, people are paranoid and think everyone that has a positive K/D ratio is hacking and should be banned. I see maybe 2-3 hackers a week when I play ghost mode, most of them get kicked and all of them get reported. And if you don't want to take the small chance that someone is cheating in a pub, just play with your clan. Remember- noobs outnumber hackers 50:1, lucky headshots do happen, low ping is hard as hell to play against, and some people are just plain better than you are.

Woody86 wrote: »

This is a load of crap and you know it!!! I run into an average of 3 to 5 a game depending on if they get kicked or not! It's even worse at night but I'd say well over 25% of the people at night (central time) hack up a storm!! It's so bad now good players are guaranteed to get kicked! My K/D ratio had been about 4.0 daily towards the beginning of last month and now I'm lucky to get a 1.25 kd anymore it's a crock and you guys are just avoiding the problem! It's not even fun to play anymore especially in ghost mode where you're gonna run into about 50% more hackers than anywhere else... I want you to get on at 2am and play 3matches of ghost mode and tell me you dont run into one hack hell I bet you dont make it past one match! And noone kicks people who obvious headshot you more than once from accrossed the room! START IP BANNING OR SOMETHING THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM and dont give me that oh I hate these kind of posts when I'm just speaking the truth there's no made up lies here and I'm not a noob! I do have respect for [GM]Saiden because he takes care of kicking the hacks but I'm seriously about to say the hell with this game it's that bad

You just said the magic word buddy...


If you dont wanna face a hacker, dont play Ghost Mode that often, every single time I play GM there is a cheater, but If I play another mode, I dont find any, not blatant at least..

yea i agree they need to clen cheters from game,becaus theme we can't enjoy in playing so much,ofen when i play 1 vs 1 battle or 2 vs 2 battle they can kill me and they aren't on list of kills,those craps make game stupid,please CrossFire team clean thet hackers

gator51 wrote: »

Ok then, thanks for all the post, good and bad. I want to answer a few. First off I’m not here to **** anyone off. I just stating the facts as I see it. I’m not your noob player you guys want to call me. I have ran my own CS server, Nascar server for years, have played many online games. I know what ping and latency are. Thoughtshark: rofl..get off the floor, nobody with 260 ping can be good, I never said that. My ping is 45, getting owned by a 260 pinger is just not going to happen. But it does in this game. _Sp4wn_ no I don’t know all the workings of PB, I just know it works. MOD Delaco: a couple of cheaters in the last 2 months, you my friend don’t play much. MCBoom: nothing to say but you show your intelligence with your post. Now you guys say there is little or no cheating in this game, you have lost your minds, I see a few post here know how bad the cheating is. I could name a few clans that cheat, and do it out in the open, don’t care if you know. Learn what ping and latency are, and you to will know how many cheaters there are in this game. A high pinger is not going to own everyone in the server with low pings, I’m seeing guys with 200 + ping owning. And no stupid they are not Pro.

It's good to know you have some gaming experience and that you have administrated some servers, however you should know why PB wouldn't work on CF..

and about Delaco not facing so many cheaters, I guess he is not a Ghost Mode player:o

There will always be hackers. There are hackers in every single fps game. Note Z8 does all they can but if they dont aimbot,speed,1 hit kill, or knife hack you cant really tell if their hacking or not. Before you start accusing someone of hacking be 100% sure because if they dont you just look like an ass...

Hackers/chammers/whatnot

The only cheat i ever see used anymore is the "all favorite" cham. While it is obvious who they are, i.e. a guy named H**d**b****** <--even announced at the end right before closing "haha i use vip hacks and you guys cant do sh** about it" it can be quite annoying to be mistaken for a cheater. I love ghost mode - i like being the ghost, i like fighting the ghosts, its all fun. For a few days I decided to tally up how many times i was booted from games because of being "a cheater." [Naturally of course a guy whose score was around 2 and 11 "pointed" this out] First day! 13. A whole dang 13 times, 2 from team death - 2 from search and destroy, 9 in ghost mode - 4 of which in ghost mode i WAS the ghost. Second day there were not many...how to say politely...untalented people on; i was only kicked twice, from ghost mode. The most common thing to say when you shoot a ghost is "i heard your breath." Sure, i heard your breath, and took a good 20 shots before i found your invisible hiney, all the places i shot were places the ghost could not be, but of course it is "obvious" i cheat because i hit them while they were...how do they normally spell it "invisabel." Ghosts also love to complain when they do not kill me from behind, try walking i wouldnt turn around then. On the flip-side when i am a ghost, i am sometimes booted for "omg he is such a lagger, i cant hit him." Noooo, you are the one with 178 ping - i have 39 ping.....YOU sir are the lagger. Or i steal the bomb with 3+ global risk guarding it, hey....learn to aim maybe you will hit my jumping-strafing-ducking-bunnyhopping bum. The Vote kick system is broken. OH hey, this guy is doing great, lets kick 'em. People do not even bother to look through my screen to see what i am doing, just insta-kick, it is really starting to annoy me. I can barely get through a ghost mode anymore on either side without being kicked. Instead of having a new game guard fix the vote kick system...also, here is a good idea - Have the gameguard do real time scans of your crossfire folder, if it detects anything that shouldnt be there, booted and it logs a report. Now i know realtime scanning can hurt the fps on slower comps, so maybe only at the start or end of each round. Tell Nprotect to do what my idea states, cheaters will have to go through a ton of work to continue cheating, you cant get around real time scanning. You can even go as far as telling the scan "this file needs to be 3,987kb" so they cant disguise the file. OR have it check the filetype, etc. Rather than try to prevent the cheaters, catch them while doing it, have it log a report, gms just look at reports then so they dont waste time on replays, and banning gets handed out faster. Sorry for the wall text. i am really annoyed.

saixtot wrote: »

The only cheat i ever see used anymore is the "all favorite" cham. While it is obvious who they are, i.e. a guy named Hotdogburrito <--even announced at the end right before closing "haha i use vip hacks and you guys cant do sh** about it" it can be quite annoying to be mistaken for a cheater. I love ghost mode - i like being the ghost, i like fighting the ghosts, its all fun. For a few days I decided to tally up how many times i was booted from games because of being "a cheater." [Naturally of course a guy whose score was around 2 and 11 "pointed" this out] First day! 13. A whole dang 13 times, 2 from team death - 2 from search and destroy, 9 in ghost mode - 4 of which in ghost mode i WAS the ghost. Second day there were not many...how to say politely...untalented people on; i was only kicked twice, from ghost mode. The most common thing to say when you shoot a ghost is "i heard your breath." Sure, i heard your breath, and took a good 20 shots before i found your invisible hiney, all the places i shot were places the ghost could not be, but of course it is "obvious" i cheat because i hit them while they were...how do they normally spell it "invisabel." Ghosts also love to complain when they do not kill me from behind, try walking i wouldnt turn around then. On the flip-side when i am a ghost, i am sometimes booted for "omg he is such a lagger, i cant hit him." Noooo, you are the one with 178 ping - i have 39 ping.....YOU sir are the lagger. Or i steal the bomb with 3+ global risk guarding it, hey....learn to aim maybe you will hit my jumping-strafing-ducking-bunnyhopping bum. The Vote kick system is broken. OH hey, this guy is doing great, lets kick 'em. People do not even bother to look through my screen to see what i am doing, just insta-kick, it is really starting to annoy me. I can barely get through a ghost mode anymore on either side without being kicked. Instead of having a new game guard fix the vote kick system...also, here is a good idea - Have the gameguard do real time scans of your crossfire folder, if it detects anything that shouldnt be there, booted and it logs a report. Now i know realtime scanning can hurt the fps on slower comps, so maybe only at the start or end of each round. Tell Nprotect to do what my idea states, cheaters will have to go through a ton of work to continue cheating, you cant get around real time scanning. You can even go as far as telling the scan "this file needs to be 3,987kb" so they cant disguise the file. OR have it check the filetype, etc. Rather than try to prevent the cheaters, catch them while doing it, have it log a report, gms just look at reports then so they dont waste time on replays, and banning gets handed out faster. Sorry for the wall text. i am really annoyed.

I understand you being annoyed, its very frustrating when you do find a real hacker and you cant kick him/her for the reason that the team doesnt want to kick them or they dont believe that they really hack. Also its best not to mention the players IGN on the forums, so you may want to edit it out.

When find a hacker BAN the IP etc etc. Not the name only. You dont do that in mIRC even.
So it's a fail ban and z8games continue to do this. Therefore hackers will not leave.

Enjoy the game.