Make better kick system.
Z8games you guys need to fix the kick system or make an automated kick system. I'm getting kicked for stupid s***. Noobs like to kick ace to get ace, or they think ace hacks. Please remove kick system, people don't kick hackers all the time when there are obviously HACKERS still at large and i have played this game for over 3 years and still have seen no success in you guys attempting to remove the hackers.
I say build a system that detects abnormality in players actions, such as a hacker joins the game and starts shooting up a storm killing everyone with head-shots, there an automated system would kick that hacker automatically and tem-ban or perm-ban w/e you guys do.
The anti-hack system could also detect players that are using wall hack if they view the player as locking on the location of each player through the wall to target them when they come around corner.
You need to do something these anti-hack shields don't work I seen the hackers get through it plenty of times you need to add more anti-hack systems to add a better gaming experience.
You could also implement a system if players get kicked and they believe there was no reason for the kick, after they get kicked a message should pop up and say "do you believe you were kicked wrongly?" and hit yes and type in comment have the game recorded, and the player that kicked (wrongly) should get marked down as abusing the kick system.
Something must be done about this current system PLEASE.
Create a better experience for those that play by the rules, not for those that break the rules!
I say build a system that detects abnormality in players actions, such as a hacker joins the game and starts shooting up a storm killing everyone with head-shots, there an automated system would kick that hacker automatically and tem-ban or perm-ban w/e you guys do.
The anti-hack system could also detect players that are using wall hack if they view the player as locking on the location of each player through the wall to target them when they come around corner.
You need to do something these anti-hack shields don't work I seen the hackers get through it plenty of times you need to add more anti-hack systems to add a better gaming experience.
You could also implement a system if players get kicked and they believe there was no reason for the kick, after they get kicked a message should pop up and say "do you believe you were kicked wrongly?" and hit yes and type in comment have the game recorded, and the player that kicked (wrongly) should get marked down as abusing the kick system.
Something must be done about this current system PLEASE.
Create a better experience for those that play by the rules, not for those that break the rules!
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You could also implement a system if players get kicked and they believe there was no reason for the kick, after they get kicked a message should pop up and say "do you believe you were kicked wrongly?" and hit yes and type in comment have the game recorded, and the player that kicked (wrongly) should get marked down as abusing the kick system.
what do you think a real hak will answer about that? -
Im not even going to read the suggestion and simply state what ive always stated.
to improve the kick system you would need to give more power to the player, which would be almost disastrous, why? because a lot of people in this game tend to kick on impulse.
examples:
1# OMG HE CAN KILL ME HE HECK!
2# OMG I WANT THE DAMNED ACE GIVE IT TO ME *kicks players*
3# OMG HE FARMER KICK!
4# OMG SCAR L NOOP!
5# OMG HARDSCOPING FAG.
and then there is stuff along the lines of racism, where people don't like people from certain countries etcetc and they will just automatically boot them.
until the mental state of the community matures, improving the kick system would be a bad idea. -
***N3kRo*** wrote: »You could also implement a system if players get kicked and they believe there was no reason for the kick, after they get kicked a message should pop up and say "do you believe you were kicked wrongly?" and hit yes and type in comment have the game recorded, and the player that kicked (wrongly) should get marked down as abusing the kick system.
what do you think a real hak will answer about that?
while that would be a good idea, there are those kind of people who play this game who will get kicked for a legitimate reason but wont necessarily be shown in the replay so that idea has some merit to it, but it isn't without its flaws. -
If the kick system won't get improved then they need to make a anti-bot program that sits in each game detecting abnormal game play with players. Like i have stated before.
My thoughts are having a anti-bot program that detects players movement speed, detect players that are locking on to other players automatically, make it detect players that are viewing exactly where the opponent are on other side of wall during most game-play.
You know this current system is not working at all, I remember years ago when there was little to no hackers and that was the best time but now you are loosing good players because there are to many hackers, i have just started playing again after a few months of quitting and with-in around 50 games about more than half of them had hackers in them.
And half of those games with hackers in them players don't kick them, or they use the hackers to advantage to win the match. It's really pathetic. -
here's a thought, do away with vote kick & Honor. make it when a player respawns or RQ's u lose 1000gp. that would stop the respawners. if theres a hacker in the room. u can just leave, with no Honor no harm. but u still lose a 1000gp. game's like AVA, Mat and Arctic combat do this. it will work!
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here's a thought, do away with vote kick & Honor. make it when a player respawns or RQ's u lose 1000gp. that would stop the respawners. if theres a hacker in the room. u can just leave, with no Honor no harm. but u still lose a 1000gp. game's like AVA, Mat and Arctic combat do this. it will work!
makes no sense.
let's suppose there's a hacker on the room - you don't want to play with the hacker.
you're forced to lose 1kGP instead. -
there's always a price to pay. as a mini ping i get sick and tired of being kicked! as the rest of u do. but the kick vote doesnt work. none hackers r being kicked for no reason. maybe they could set it up so the host can kick in game. but yes, Honor in this game doesnt mean sh!t. but the 1000gp loss would stop respawners!!
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there's always a price to pay. as a mini ping i get sick and tired of being kicked! as the rest of u do. but the kick vote doesnt work. none hackers r being kicked for no reason. maybe they could set it up so the host can kick in game. but yes, Honor in this game doesnt mean sh!t. but the 1000gp loss would stop respawners!!
1k GP loss would be way to much 100gp would be better. But this is totally off-topic from my post. -
i play Arctic Combat, they have a 1000gp loss for leaving a game. it works there. and yes i might be a bit off ur topic, but the fact is we're all tired of being kicked for no reason. isn't that ur reason for posting? and gp cost's nothing! u earn it every game u play.
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i play Arctic Combat, they have a 1000gp loss for leaving a game. it works there. and yes i might be a bit off ur topic, but the fact is we're all tired of being kicked for no reason. isn't that ur reason for posting? and gp cost's nothing! u earn it every game u play.
isn't it easier to make the kick vote subtract like 1000gp or so, then? -
LobsterMts wrote: »isn't it easier to make the kick vote subtract like 1000gp or so, then?
How would that be fair for those trying to kick a hacker then? They loose GP for kicking hacker that make absolutely no sense what so ever. They should make an anti-bot program like i suggested i think it would be best idea for them to use and do. Something must be done than nothing. -
In my opinion only 1 option would work:
Only let people past a certain rank initiate kick votes for free (a small GP fee is possible though).
Letting only the host kick people would not work because if the host doesn't like someone because they're too good on the other team, the host can easily kick them with no penalty.
If a penalty for kick voting people is introduced, why would people kick any hackers at all? I do see hackers getting kicked every now and then so the system isn't 100% bad, it just needs a rank requirement. -
How would that be fair for those trying to kick a hacker then? They loose GP for kicking hacker that make absolutely no sense what so ever. They should make an anti-bot program like i suggested i think it would be best idea for them to use and do. Something must be done than nothing.
I was suggesting that as a joke, to be honest.
which idea is stupider: lose 1kGP for exiting a game, or lose 1kGP for kicking someone? -
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The fact that the kick system is abused is the community's fault. If you give people some sort of 'power' they will always try to take advantage of this. Removing the kick system is no solution as it is indeed needed to kick hackers, it might be that not every hacker is getting kicked but many are.Z8games you guys need to fix the kick system or make an automated kick system. I'm getting kicked for stupid s***. Noobs like to kick ace to get ace, or they think ace hacks. Please remove kick system, people don't kick hackers all the time when there are obviously HACKERS still at large and i have played this game for over 3 years and still have seen no success in you guys attempting to remove the hackers.
Such a system exists already. As soon as someone does something which he's not supposed to he will get a client error, no matter whether it was done on purpose or not. There's no way that they'll make people get banned for doing something which they're not supposed to do as many people would simply be banned even though they didn't do it on purpose.I say build a system that detects abnormality in players actions, such as a hacker joins the game and starts shooting up a storm killing everyone with head-shots, there an automated system would kick that hacker automatically and tem-ban or perm-ban w/e you guys do.
The anti-hack system could also detect players that are using wall hack if they view the player as locking on the location of each player through the wall to target them when they come around corner.
You need to do something these anti-hack shields don't work I seen the hackers get through it plenty of times you need to add more anti-hack systems to add a better gaming experience.
Every hacker would simply say he got kicked wrongly and then the legit player who kicked him would get a penalty ? that's not a solution. If you want the support to look into every report that was made for a wrong kick vote then I guess you didn't notice how much work this would actually take.
You could also implement a system if players get kicked and they believe there was no reason for the kick, after they get kicked a message should pop up and say "do you believe you were kicked wrongly?" and hit yes and type in comment have the game recorded, and the player that kicked (wrongly) should get marked down as abusing the kick system. -
Every hacker would simply say he got kicked wrongly and then the legit player who kicked him would get a penalty ? that's not a solution. If you want the support to look into every report that was made for a wrong kick vote then I guess you didn't notice how much work this would actually take.
No, for those that believe they got kicked wrongly would get their replay sent into the server. If a hacker tries to say they did nothing wrong, z8 only has to look at replay know the hacker name and temp-ban or perm-ban seeing they were hacking. If its allot of work then they need separate divisions working on each thing, hiring more people. -
The vote-kick system is as shiny as can be, it just depends on the players who are using it. There is no reasonable way to control who gets kicked, and if the kick was fair or not. If a system were added where you could appeal an invalid kicking scenario, then that would take up too much time on the staffs end, and the majority of the appeals would probably be spam.
Once again, the vote-kick system is fine the way it is.
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