Kick voting in MM (The results)
Ok, this isn't a thread about how kick voting sucks and should be removed or how it should be made harder to kick players or even easier by giving people unlimited kicks or reducing the threshold to kick to 2 agrees - I don't really care about whether you think it's a good thing or a bad idea to have kick voting in Mutant modes.
What I am interested in is your opinion on kick voting and the results of having it;
Do you think just having kick vote in these modes causes hackusations, reduces them or makes no difference? (it's been in a while now for players to have a solid opinion).
The reason I am asking is because this lately I've been playing HM, HMX and MM and as usual getting kicked a lot and called "hacker" (so do many others), which got me thinking I can't remember getting hackusated before kick vote was implemented and the only times people said "Hack" was when someone came in and one shotted the mutants or was speed crouching (when it was out).
I was giving this some thought last night after getting kicked for mutating a noob that was merely camping in a corner (not even a good spot) and got called "waller" and kicked.
So do you think kick voting itself causes QQ? Opinions please.
What I am interested in is your opinion on kick voting and the results of having it;
Do you think just having kick vote in these modes causes hackusations, reduces them or makes no difference? (it's been in a while now for players to have a solid opinion).
The reason I am asking is because this lately I've been playing HM, HMX and MM and as usual getting kicked a lot and called "hacker" (so do many others), which got me thinking I can't remember getting hackusated before kick vote was implemented and the only times people said "Hack" was when someone came in and one shotted the mutants or was speed crouching (when it was out).
I was giving this some thought last night after getting kicked for mutating a noob that was merely camping in a corner (not even a good spot) and got called "waller" and kicked.
So do you think kick voting itself causes QQ? Opinions please.
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No difference. It was bad before then, its still bad now. Only major change is that actual hackers now have a chance to being removed from the room
So you receive the same level of QQ and hear the same level of QQ (hackusations), now as you did prior to the kick vote being added?
See it's unusual for me to hear hackusations because I got hackusated maybe 4 times for the duration there was no vote, now there are hackusations flying around in all games.
It's also not really about whether hackers get kicked either, it's strictly QQ levels prior to and after it being added.Lieutenant00 wrote: »My experience in Crossfire is that hackers get less kicked than pros :S
Usually because a hacker is crying. CF is like probably the only game where you get called a hacker by a hacker and you get kicked for hacking. -
Usually because a hacker is crying. CF is like probably the only game where you get called a hacker by a hacker and you get kicked for hacking.
QFT
You kill the most blatant of hackers, and then you're a hacker. 12 second later, you're kicked. -
if your a pro at HM MM like me. u better make friends and make them fast. or your kicked lol if you like to play these modes. i suggest u play on the same sever and same channel every day. so u make friends. and u play with them. or your kicked! simple as that. before u join go through the list of people playing. and if u dont see any people u know. join at your own risk lol.
to answer your question. I like having kick vote. no more hackers running around ruining the game. the side effects of having kick vote suck some days.. but i would rather be kicked then to deal with hackers. but some days i miss the hackers lol i miss mutating them and calling them hak noobs lol and embarrassing them making them look stupid. -
TOPOMATIC251 wrote: »if your a pro at HM MM like me. u better make friends and make them fast. or your kicked lol if you like to play these modes. i suggest u play on the same sever and same channel every day. so u make friends. and u play with them. or your kicked! simple as that. before u join go through the list of people playing. and if u dont see any people u know. join at your own risk lol.
to answer your question. I like having kick vote. no more hackers running around ruining the game. the side effects of having kick vote suck some days.. but i would rather be kicked then to deal with hackers. but some days i miss the hackers lol i miss mutating them and calling them hak noobs lol and embarrassing them making them look stupid.
On which server do you play ?
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TOPOMATIC251 wrote: »to answer your question. I like having kick vote. no more hackers running around ruining the game. the side effects of having kick vote suck some days.. but i would rather be kicked then to deal with hackers. but some days i miss the hackers lol i miss mutating them and calling them hak noobs lol and embarrassing them making them look stupid.
The question is whether simply having the ability to kick causes QQ.
It's not really a whether you like or hate it, or want it deleted yesterday or want unlimited kicks implemented. On a personal level though I would prefer hackers.
But like I said I saw little QQ about legits being "hak" until kicking was implemented.
For example ever since MM was added up until the kick vote was added I was hardly hackusated but since then I get hackusated nearly every game and so do others, which leads me to believe there is a correlation between kick vote being added and QQ.
There is one good thing about kick vote and good rooms though and that is the nobs kicks never pass and then they get kicked and F11'ed so hard:D -
Before the kick vote was implemented people did hackusate less, but that is ONLY because they know they can't kick, so they just shut up. (I did see some noobs try to kick hackers in HM before the vote kick addition)
Now the noobs are simply hackusating the skilled players that they would have liked to have hackusated before the kick vote implementation. (Do you follow me?)
The thing is, some of you very skilled players can basically sh!t on hackers. This leads to 2 things: (1) Noobs think you are more annoying than hackers; (2) you don't notice that the hackers are gone.
I do notice the hackers are gone because I can't beat hackers, and I do not get kicked as often because when I'm the last guy alive I let them kill me.
If you do complain about being kicked by noobs, then go play in a none-noob server please. UK4 is a load better than all the other servers. If you like farming on noobs, then I'm sorry to tell you that noobs don't like getting farmed on. -
The first part may very well be true, but the thing that leads me to believe that this wasn't the case is;
Although people did hackusate prior to kick voting being added when they did they were accurate and correct i.e speed crouchers got called "speed hak nub" and one hitters when they were around got called "hak noob".
As for the second part UK 4 is a very noob server to play on, sure there are good players there but the majority only have 'rank' minus skill, I can go into any GM game on that server headshot a few ghosts and then it's "F11" and I'm either kicked within 1-5 min, even the BR's in Alpha are more tolerant than that.
And it's UK4 in which I keep getting kicked from Mutant modes. -
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Edit: only answered chimpz from when he responded to my statement. I will try to read tr others too and get an opinion on them after my dinner
So you receive the same level of QQ and hear the same level of QQ (hackusations), now as you did prior to the kick vote being added?
See it's unusual for me to hear hackusations because I got hackusated maybe 4 times for the duration there was no vote, now there are hackusations flying around in all games.
It's also not really about whether hackers get kicked either, it's strictly QQ levels prior to and after it being added.
I want to reply as well as add on a little more insight to my previous post. Yes I still abide by no difference with change, but I do want to point that because the vote is available to the mode(s), it has greatly lessened the overall finding of hackers in those rooms.
BUT, now that there are less hackers in the rooms, and for me it never changed the rate of hackusations, it seems as an illusion there has been an increase of hackusations against players WHO AREN'T hacking.
Also add in there that because the vote is there people can forgo hackusating in chat and just start the kick process on someone they don't like/agree with.
So my question(s) are:
As a result of the kick vote being added, have YOU seen less actual blatent hackers in those modes?
And...
Do you see and increase of kick abuse kick starts and a decrease of chat hackusations? -
So my question(s) are:
As a result of the kick vote being added, have YOU seen less actual blatent hackers in those modes?
No, Simply because xtrap and the devs have prevented these "blatent hackers". Kick vote has not helped remove any hackers other than the very very very occasional one.Do you see and increase of kick abuse kick starts and a decrease of chat hackusations?
I see more of all.
99.99% of the kicks are false and more hackusations. -
WolfManLNL wrote: »if your a pro at HM MM like me. u better make friends and make them fast. or your kicked LOL if you like to play these modes. i suggest u play on the same sever and same channel every day. so u make friends. and u play with them. or your kicked! simple as that. before u join go through the list of people playing. and if u dont see any people u know. join at your own risk LOL.
to answer your question. I like having kick vote. no more hackers running around ruining the game. the side effects of having kick vote suck some days.. but i would rather be kicked then to deal with hackers. but some days i miss the hackers LOL i miss mutating them and calling them hak noobs LOL and embarrassing them making them look stupid.
You mentioned the word LOL 4 times :P -
This idea sucks, make it harder to kick? are you kidding me? If you play alot of MM/HM/HMX you would be asking it to be easier to kick.
I get kicked alot too, sometimes I don't even make it a minute into the first round before I get kicked, or they wait til they last minute of the 17th round to kick me. But as frustrating as it is sometimes I am thankful we have the kick option in MM, when I quit the first time hackers ruined the mode. And now we at least have a glimmer of hope that people will kick them.
My advice......Just have fun the rounds you do get to play, there's not alot of GP/EXP from these modes (ive gotten like 275-300 in a 17 round HMX) and your gun doesn't break, So live it up while u can
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This idea sucks, make it harder to kick? are you kidding me? If you play alot of MM/HM/HMX you would be asking it to be easier to kick.
Lol there really aren't any hackers!
And your post has no relevancy to the thread because you didn't even read the thread your replying to - Funnily enough like most that replied:o -
Ok, this isn't a thread about how kick voting sucks and should be removed or how it should be made harder to kick players or even easier by giving people unlimited kicks or reducing the threshold to kick to 2 agrees - I don't really care about whether you think it's a good thing or a bad idea to have kick voting in Mutant modes.
What I am interested in is your opinion on kick voting and the results of having it;
Do you think just having kick vote in these modes causes hackusations, reduces them or makes no difference? (it's been in a while now for players to have a solid opinion).
The reason I am asking is because this lately I've been playing HM, HMX and MM and as usual getting kicked a lot and called "hacker" (so do many others), which got me thinking I can't remember getting hackusated before kick vote was implemented and the only times people said "Hack" was when someone came in and one shotted the mutants or was speed crouching (when it was out).
I was giving this some thought last night after getting kicked for mutating a noob that was merely camping in a corner (not even a good spot) and got called "waller" and kicked.
So do you think kick voting itself causes QQ? Opinions please.
Are you kidding me? Lol my post is not relevant? I don't bother reading the posts of anyone but the original question. I gave my opinion on the subject.
"This idea sucks, make it harder to kick? are you kidding me? If you play alot of MM/HM/HMX you would be asking it to be easier to kick." <<< No relevant to your question?
"I get kicked alot too, sometimes I don't even make it a minute into the first round before I get kicked, or they wait til they last minute of the 17th round to kick me. But as frustrating as it is sometimes I am thankful we have the kick option in MM, when I quit the first time hackers ruined the mode. And now we at least have a glimmer of hope that people will kick them"
Not relevant to the topic? Logic sir. You asked for opinions I gave it. If you don't want people to answer your original comment ( the start post of the thread ) then please edit your original post so people don't give their opinion on it. ~Thanks -
What exactly are you reading??Ok, this isn't a thread about how kick voting sucks and should be removed or how it should be made harder to kick players or even easier by giving people unlimited kicks or reducing the threshold to kick to 2 agrees - I don't really care about whether you think it's a good thing or a bad idea to have kick voting in Mutant modes.
What I am interested in is your opinion on kick voting and the results of having it;
Do you think just having kick vote in these modes causes hackusations, reduces them or makes no difference? (it's been in a while now for players to have a solid opinion).
The reason I am asking is because this lately I've been playing HM, HMX and MM and as usual getting kicked a lot and called "hacker" (so do many others), which got me thinking I can't remember getting hackusated before kick vote was implemented and the only times people said "Hack" was when someone came in and one shotted the mutants or was speed crouching (when it was out).
I was giving this some thought last night after getting kicked for mutating a noob that was merely camping in a corner (not even a good spot) and got called "waller" and kicked.
So do you think kick voting itself causes QQ? Opinions please.
I made the relevant bits larger since people have trouble with reading it in normal size, the colored bits may help you too. -
My opinion is that it sucks now
My opinion is that it sucks now because most of the kick vote is from low ranks newbie which is entirely stupid since they haven't even play for 3 month to get use to the game so if i was one of these developers i would make it so that your acc has to be at least 3 months old to kick so new acc hackers and newbies can't kick just because you're pro.
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