Lieutenant likes to clan war, but not winning sometimes.

One of our Lts likes to clan war against stronger teams, since he is very good. But sometimes he would go with less experienced teammates and lose.
I tried to tell him that we need to bring up the winning rate, but he just wanted to do clan war with strong teams.
He gets upset whenever I say not to fight armored teams, or teams that obviously will beat us.

We are a casual clan but we do clan war everyday or so. We like to have fun and win at clan war.

How do you deal with a good but stubborn teammate?
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  • The only way your clan will be able to progress up the clan war rankings is by playing with a variety of clans, weak and strong.
  • Give him a warning otherwise your clan KD would be teribad. If he doesn't listen then kick him out the clan.
  • The only way your clan will be able to progress up the clan war rankings is by playing with a variety of clans, weak and strong.

    We rank at around 2000th now.
    We did play a lot of strong teams in the beginning when we started, when we were not as good. We lost 20 matches before winning the first one. We are still at below 40% winning rate. We have a lot more good players now and we got better as well. But there were times when players didn't want to join us because our winning rate was "teribad".


    Give him a warning otherwise your clan KD would be teribad. If he doesn't listen then kick him out the clan.

    We are friends. I won't kick him. I need a solution to satisfy both our clan needs and his needs.
  • You could tell him that you'll demote him if he doesn't listen to you.
  • aRusher wrote: »
    You could tell him that you'll demote him if he doesn't listen to you.

    ^ The right way to do it..
  • recruit more skilled players and kick the ones who constantly keep losing.
  • tell him to leave the clan because you're weighing him down, or you guys get better.

    happened to me when I was in LT, they held me back, and was one of 2 reasons why I left them, and they're "dying" now.
  • Kick the terrible members and increase your skilled members.
    Or at least keep it at a managable ratio.
  • If you kick him, tell me, I will recruit him. That's the member I'm looking for.
    I really do like him, he doesn't dodge decent clan. That the one I need for long time. The number kdr, win/lose of clan and him self is not any mean to him. Great! I love enthusiasm people.
    If you don't kick him, I think you guys need more teamwork skill. I wonder how many AC clan you can dodge. Keep dodging is not solution, face and fight is the only thing you have to do
  • aRusher wrote: »
    You could tell him that you'll demote him if he doesn't listen to you.
    ^ The right way to do it..

    I don't think he cares about being a Lt honestly.
    recruit more skilled players and kick the ones who constantly keep losing.

    We are trying to recruit more skilled players. The ones keep losing we tell them when it is okay for them to join a clan war, e.g. when we play against a weaker team.
    tell him to leave the clan because you're weighing him down, or you guys get better.

    happened to me when I was in LT, they held me back, and was one of 2 reasons why I left them, and they're "dying" now.


    He has another account in a much higher ranked clan.
    We have good players like him in our clan. But if he wants to join a pro clan, that's fine. The most important thing is for us to get along and have fun.
  • ^ The right way to do it..

    Lol no it isn't. Making threats is no way to lead a clan.
  • My clan used to be bad like that and now i got decent members and we finally bring up our Clan War KD. U just need some player like him Has no fear of facing anyone...
  • ' wrote:
    OMG[Thank;2983752']If you kick him, tell me, I will recruit him. That's the member I'm looking for.
    I really do like him, he doesn't dodge decent clan. That the one I need for long time. The number kdr, win/lose of clan and him self is not any mean to him. Great! I love enthusiasm people.
    If you don't kick him, I think you guys need more teamwork skill. I wonder how many AC clan you can dodge. Keep dodging is not solution, face and fight is the only thing you have to do


    We play against decent clans. But I don't like play against armored teams personally because it is unfair and we tend to lose more than win.
    We have played pro clans before.
    But now we just want to bring up the winning ratio first, then play with whoever comes along.

    I personally hate to lose and play with better teams it is okay as long as it is balanced and fair.
  • your clan will only get better by playing skilled teams, not people you can easily beat. When you get better you can beat harder teams. So he is right in a way, but if you dont want that then you should tell him or threaten to demote him.
  • Tecumtha wrote: »
    He has another account in a much higher ranked clan.
    We have good players like him in our clan. But if he wants to join a pro clan, that's fine. The most important thing is for us to get along and have fun.

    tell him, join pro clan never get him better. He needs to work with his own clan (your clan) until you get the goal. he shouldn't hide behind the strong team, it won't work for his skill
  • He can't play the clan war on his own, tell the other members to refuse playing against these clans.
    Then to satisfy him, start training rooms and get a good scrim team, then you'll be able to take on better players.
  • My clan used to be bad like that and now i got decent members and we finally bring up our Clan War KD. U just need some player like him Has no fear of facing anyone...

    That's good to know.

    We are coming up pretty fast too.

    It was just frustrating to see him in match history bringing two teammates with .5 kdr against opponents with like 1.7 kdrs, and lost outright.

    He could just wait until better teammates log on and play with them instead.
  • Tecumtha wrote: »
    We play against decent clans. But I don't like play against armored teams personally because it is unfair and we tend to lose more than win.
    We have played pro clans before.
    But now we just want to bring up the winning ratio first, then play with whoever comes along.

    I personally hate to lose and play with better teams it is okay as long as it is balanced and fair.

    Tell him to join my clan for a week..
  • Tell him to join my clan for a week..

    I don't tell him what to do. Some good players have bigger egos than you can tell him what to do.
  • Keep losing. Get the LT to train your rookies and members on a regular basis. Get back on track. Start winning.

    As easy as that.
  • EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    Keep losing. Get the LT to train your rookies and members on a regular basis. Get back on track. Start winning.

    As easy as that.


    Thanks for the suggestion. We win a lot too, we just want to minimize loses for the time being.

    Anyone has good training techniques let me know.
  • if you're looking for some GM techniques...huuuhuuuhuuu read my signature :D
  • Tecumtha wrote: »
    Thanks for the suggestion. We win a lot too, we just want to minimize loses for the time being.

    Anyone has good training techniques let me know.

    I may help you, let me know the room.
  • I'm the leader, if my Lts disobey me I scream and them and they listen. ^_^
  • ' wrote:
    OMG[Thank;2983854']I may help you, let me know the room.

    That will be awesome. Let me contact you.
    MissWolf wrote: »
    I'm the leader, if my Lts disobey me I scream and them and they listen. ^_^

    If I am a girl I would too lol
    if you're looking for some GM techniques...huuuhuuuhuuu read my signature :D

    Lol you are funny, we can play ghost mode together for sure. We are mostly SD but might get into GM.


    Alright guys,

    My ign is Ave_Maria

    (it means Hail Mary in Latin)

    add me in game or send me a message please
  • You need to show authority, if you can't then he will lead the example of that he can do anything he wants which not only effects you, it effects your whole clan.
  • Hey, we've talked about this before. Our priority is to raise our clan stats first. I thought this wasn't happening anymore...

    But hey, you are the leader, you tell us what to do and we follow, we might give you suggestions but in the end, you are the leader.

    I know, that you are a good and fair person, but if someone doesn't like or doesn't want to follow the rules, just give him 3 warnings before being kicked. It doesn't really matter if he gets angry or whatever, his stubbornness is affecting all of us, and that is unfair.

    Go APOLLO!
  • Let him have his fun its a game. Don't let it bother you if your clan stats aren't great. You surely don't want to be the next old legends.

    Keep your pride.If you lose stay respectful regardless of how low the opposing clan stoops.If you win be humble.When you playing days with cf are over you can look back and say our stats were a true reflection of who we are.Not just by falsifying the stats by playing strategic clan wars.
  • Tecumtha wrote: »
    Thanks for the suggestion. We win a lot too, we just want to minimize loses for the time being.

    Anyone has good training techniques let me know.
    I can train your troops sometimes if I don't get lazy. Training is easy though, and when I train someone I divide the training in several parts:

    a. Mobility
    b. Stealth/Counter-stealth
    c. Marksmanship (sniper)

    For mobility, get your rookies in TD Prison and get them to train all styles of hopping and jumping in the middle. In the long run it allows players to be more on the move and thus less predictable. Doublejumping/Lagjumping enables a few shortcuts while ND jumping allows not to lose health while falling from great heights.

    For stealth/counter-stealth techniques, use ghost mode. Keep in mind that pinpointing and hearing stuff is important not only in GM. Sometimes hearing an opponent changing guns allows you to know it's location and eventually pre-aim/pre-shoot them or ambush them. While bunnyhopping and general stealth allows your units to scout around without being noticed or to ambush effectively.

    Marksmanship is the easiest part. Getting to quickscope with an AWM (or better yet, an M700) will make sure that people try to land as much shots into the target as possible. Besides, it gives the much needed pistols training that a lot of players lack. I can't stop counting times when my pistol saved matches and/or enabled more mobility then other players giving me an advantage.

    Well whatever, if you decide to send me some people for training, keep me posted. Catcha later.
  • You need to show authority, if you can't then he will lead the example of that he can do anything he wants which not only effects you, it effects your whole clan.

    That's why I posted the thread. But I don't know if it will be that serious.
    Hey, we've talked about this before. Our priority is to raise our clan stats first. I thought this wasn't happening anymore...

    But hey, you are the leader, you tell us what to do and we follow, we might give you suggestions but in the end, you are the leader.

    I know, that you are a good and fair person, but if someone doesn't like or doesn't want to follow the rules, just give him 3 warnings before being kicked. It doesn't really matter if he gets angry or whatever, his stubbornness is affecting all of us, and that is unfair.

    Go APOLLO!

    We will have to see if he can manage not to lose more than he wins.
    But yeah I wish he is as understanding as you are.

    RumAndCoke wrote: »
    Let him have his fun its a game. Don't let it bother you if your clan stats aren't great. You surely don't want to be the next old legends.

    Keep your pride.If you lose stay respectful regardless of how low the opposing clan stoops.If you win be humble.When you playing days with cf are over you can look back and say our stats were a true reflection of who we are.Not just by falsifying the stats by playing strategic clan wars.

    It's no fun to lose. It is best to play with similar clans until we get a decent stats.
    EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    I can train your troops sometimes if I don't get lazy. Training is easy though, and when I train someone I divide the training in several parts:

    a. Mobility
    b. Stealth/Counter-stealth
    c. Marksmanship (sniper)

    For mobility, get your rookies in TD Prison and get them to train all styles of hopping and jumping in the middle. In the long run it allows players to be more on the move and thus less predictable. Doublejumping/Lagjumping enables a few shortcuts while ND jumping allows not to lose health while falling from great heights.

    For stealth/counter-stealth techniques, use ghost mode. Keep in mind that pinpointing and hearing stuff is important not only in GM. Sometimes hearing an opponent changing guns allows you to know it's location and eventually pre-aim/pre-shoot them or ambush them. While bunnyhopping and general stealth allows your units to scout around without being noticed or to ambush effectively.

    Marksmanship is the easiest part. Getting to quickscope with an AWM (or better yet, an M700) will make sure that people try to land as much shots into the target as possible. Besides, it gives the much needed pistols training that a lot of players lack. I can't stop counting times when my pistol saved matches and/or enabled more mobility then other players giving me an advantage.

    Well whatever, if you decide to send me some people for training, keep me posted. Catcha later.

    Good tips, how do you do no damage jump?
    Yeah let's catch up later.