Knifing
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Well, we have an idiot right here...I tested the range from all melees except katana and the result is : All ranges are the same.
In case you didn't notice, people don't hit you from 5 feet away (when you can see their feet as well as their whole body) with the knife...you get hit with that by the time you can only see the enemies hips...
Katana = 5-6 feet range.
Shovel = 5-6 ft. range PLUS lag swing (players getting killed after the animation had already ended).
Kukri / Kriss = 3-4 feet...and their speed out-shadows the knife by a long shot. Damage too.
Axe = 2-3 feet. Pretty much the same range as the knife...except the Axe is a 1-2 hit kill AND fires faster then the knife on BOTH animations (strong and weak). Pretty much renders the whole "range equality" thing moot...
Point is this.
Knife GP < Knife ZP.
Player with ZP > Player with GP.
Skill needed with GP knife > Skill needed with ZP knife. -
THANK YOU! Geez that other kid didn't know what he was talking about.Well, we have an idiot right here...
In case you didn't notice, people don't hit you from 5 feet away (when you can see their feet as well as their whole body) with the knife...you get hit with that by the time you can only see the enemies hips...
Katana = 5-6 feet range.
Shovel = 5-6 ft. range PLUS lag swing (players getting killed after the animation had already ended).
Kukri / Kriss = 3-4 feet...and their speed out-shadows the knife by a long shot. Damage too.
Axe = 2-3 feet. Pretty much the same range as the knife...except the Axe is a 1-2 hit kill AND fires faster then the knife on BOTH animations (strong and weak). Pretty much renders the whole "range equality" thing moot...
Point is this.
Knife GP < Knife ZP.
Player with ZP > Player with GP.
Skill needed with GP knife > Skill needed with ZP knife. -
and I think I'm missing your piont. does other kids buying zp weapons more benefit you somehow? plus, zp weapons wouldn't be eliminated or completely banned, there would simply be an option to not use them.A_Anderson wrote: »if this will happen,less people will buy zp melees.
and if u want to play only with knife u can play with clan or friends. -
This will never happen because all the people who don't have any knifes will disable them and people who bought them can't join any rooms.
Beside that, that's the whole point of crossfire. Crossfire has a lot of weapons, that's the good thing about cf. You can't just ban all those weapons you don't like.
Also, this is the reason why they don't have a lot of weapons in counter strike. With a lot of weapons you make the game unfair. -
"all the people who don't have any knifes will disable them and people who bought them can't join any rooms."
Response: Not a large problem. I can already think of two easy solutions. Either a notification (that whenever someone tries to join a "knife only" round with a non-knife melee weapon) tells someone to go to storage and equip a knife before joining. This, or whenever someone enters a room that disables those weapons, their knife is automatically brought out. This hill isn't a mountain.
"You can't just ban all those weapons you don't like."
Response: Who here said "ban"? Allowing the option to disable these weapons is a simple thing. It doesn't ban these weapons. It doesn't eliminate them from the game. Are sniper only rounds "banning" other guns? -
He didn't say he wanted to ban those weapons. He just wanted to allow an option to disable them from a round. Also, more people use zp melee than they use the starting knives, so the majority of rooms would likely allow zp weapons anyways.BadMonkey666 wrote: »This will never happen because all the people who don't have any knifes will disable them and people who bought them can't join any rooms.
Beside that, that's the whole point of crossfire. Crossfire has a lot of weapons, that's the good thing about cf. You can't just ban all those weapons you don't like.
Also, this is the reason why they don't have a lot of weapons in counter strike. With a lot of weapons you make the game unfair. -
He probably didn't realize there was a suggestions thread until later, because I found out he made another post there afterwards here: http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?p=2964874Should be in suggestions, but +1. Tired of playing knife rooms where 2 Kukris and a shovel gang up on you every single round for 13 rounds. -
PhantasmalDr wrote: »and I think I'm missing your piont. does other kids buying zp weapons more benefit you somehow? plus, zp weapons wouldn't be eliminated or completely banned, there would simply be an option to not use them.
i dont think that will happen. -
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BadMonkey666 wrote: »This will never happen because all the people who don't have any knifes will disable them and people who bought them can't join any rooms.
Beside that, that's the whole point of crossfire. Crossfire has a lot of weapons, that's the bad* thing about cf. You can't just ban all those weapons you don't like.
Also, this is the reason why they don't have a lot of weapons in counter strike. With a lot of weapons you make the game unfair.
Fixed for yu -
so will this suggestion be in GM too, as i understand it's mostly going to be a matter there..
if so then...if you suggest to disable all the ZP melees, i assume the 'unfair' weapons from the opposite GR will be vanished too, but then the question would be: what weapon is unfair?
somehow i support the idea, but can't fully agree either. -
it wouldn't be in ghost mode considering they're facing people with actual guns. i'm talking about in regular melee matches like EM, SND, and TDBeFasterKid wrote: »so will this suggestion be in GM too, as i understand it's mostly going to be a matter there..
if so then...if you suggest to disable all the ZP melees, i assume the 'unfair' weapons from the opposite GR will be vanished too, but then the question would be: what weapon is unfair?
somehow i support the idea, but can't fully agree either. -
It's a good idea and people have to keep in mind that they're still will be rooms that people have all wepeons abled. Alot of players do enjoy using zp wepeons rather then the knife not just to have an advantage but to player against other players with the same wepeon. Also for every one saying then there'd be no point in zp melee wepeons anymore, well for starters read the 1st thing i wrote and secondly the wepeons were originally added for GM anyways.
But z8 does'nt put any original content in crossfire nor have they ever. You'll have to hope it comes out in another version and then z8 will be all over it a few months after its release. -
None of those ideas will be added to the game because they all just s*.
There was a big poll, about vote kicks in FFA and MM/HM.
You all said that the GMs should add kick vote to those games and now you all want it to be removed.
You guys are just a bunch off little kids, and that's why your opinions are not worth a sh*t.
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