Black Market win limit?

I spent most of last night sifting through peoples profiles who have won several guns from the black market, and everyone who has won a good amount of weapons from ZP crates seem to have either 11 or 12 pages of guns on their profile, including myself (12 pages including temporary weapons.)
My question is, I have won many guns from crates. The last thing I won was the Gatling Gun - Halloween last year. I spun like 200 Xmas crates, 300 royal dragon crates, and a bunch of other ZP crates, but did not win any perm weapons since last year.

What I'm getting at is, is there a gun win limit? I know mods will say " derp buying crates doesn't entitle you nor guarantee a perm weapon." I get that.

However, I used a very specific method to spin crates to win all I have. I have all the GP crate guns, and used the method to win them. When trying to use it now, I never win anything permanant from ZP crates.

There has to be a ZP crate perm gun win limit in place because I should have won new guns by now.

Everyone who has a similar amounts of guns are stuck with what I have. People who have 11-12 pages of guns can not get more permanant guns from ZP crates. That's a fact, its been seen many times.

So basically, whoever runs thus game is allowing people to spend ZP on ZP crates in an attempt to win permanant guns, which they don't win. I.e. false advertisement. The chances of winning permanant guns has been dropped to <2% for people with many guns.

It seems that z8games is pandering to new players by giving them more of a chance to win perm ZP weapons over veteran players. How can I spend $100 on ZP crates, spin them, and win no perms. Then, logout, deposit 20k ZP on a newer account (with no guns) and win both the M4A1- E AND AK-47 S using the special method, both from buying only 10 of each crate? This is NOT luck, in any way.

The people who won new weapons from the Royal dragon crates mainly have ONLY those weapons.
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  • There is no method, it's purely luck. You obviously had a run of good luck, followed by a run of bad luck. I've seen players with 16 pages of weaps.
  • No limit, simply luck and patience - and of course on how much you can spend.
  • It's all about luck.My friend won m4 patriot today after like 400 crates and he has 3 pages only(his 3rd zp gun) <.<
  • guess it proves your sping theory wrong then huh?

    theres no max number of different guns you can have
  • 'Chaos wrote:
    Oh;2940021']There is no method, it's purely luck. You obviously had a run of good luck, followed by a run of bad luck. I've seen players with 16 pages of weaps.

    true... it's only luck ;)
  • The only limit is on the number of the same gun you can have. You can only have 6 tommies, for instance. As for a "win limit", it doesn't exist. You've just had bad luck. Your method you used to spin crates wasn't actually helping, you just happened to be lucky. Now you aren't. You'll win again if you keep spinning crates.
  • BullSquid wrote: »
    I spent most of last night sifting through peoples pfilea who have won several guns from the black market, and everyone who has won a good amount of weapons from ZP crates seem to have either 11 or 12 pages of guns on their profile, including myself (12 pages including temporary weapons.)
    My question is, I have won many guns from crates. The last thing I won was the Gatling Gun - Halloween last year. I spun like 200 Xmas crates, 300 royal dragon crates, and a bunch of other ZP crates, but did not win any perm weapons since last year.

    What I'm getting at is, is there a gun win limit? I know mods will say " derp buying crates doesn't entitle you nor guarantee a perm weapon." I get that.

    However, I used a very specific method to spin crates to win all I have,. I have all the GP crate guns, and used the method to win them. When trying to use it now, I never win anything permanant from ZP crates.

    There has to be a ZP crate perm gun win limit in place because I should have won new guns by now.

    Everyone who has a similar amounts of guns are stuck with what ty have. People who have 11-12 pages of guns can not get more permanant guns from ZP crates. That's a fact, its been liven.

    So basically, whoever runs thus game is allowing people to spend ZP on ZP crates in an attempt to win permanant guns, which they don't win. I.e. false advertisement. The chances of winning permanant guns has been dropped to <2% for people with many guns.

    It seems that z8games is pandering to new players by giving them more of a chance to win perm ZP weapons over veteran players. How can I spend $100 on ZP crates, spin them, and win no perms. Then, logout, deposit 20k ZP on a newer account (with no guns) and win both the M4A1- E AND AK-47 S using the special method, both from buying only 10 of each crate?

    The people who won new weapons from the total dragon crates mainly have ONLY those guns
    Just keep spinning and make sure you hold down the button for as long as you can.
  • I think when you own more ZP guns, the chance to win other ZP guns is lower. I see many new accounts own ZP guns in few crates that higher rank can't get em with over 200 crates.
  • how would we know either way? maybe it is programmed to progressively decrease ur chances as u win more weapons. hell, id program it that way.
  • There might be some truth to the chances of winning ZP guns gets lower with the more ZP & Gp guns you have.

    I have spun close to 200 ZP crates and won nothing. I wont even bother to tell you how many GP crates I spun. Nothing. My methed had always worked before. It started to really go bad after the holloween patch.
  • That sounds like just some very bad luck.

    There's no limit to how many guns you can win(except for the 6 of the same), otherwise the game wouldn't be very profitable; people would stop buying zp after they hit the limit.
  • RancorRich wrote: »
    There might be some truth to the chances of winning ZP guns gets lower with the more ZP & Gp guns you have.

    I have spun close to 200 ZP crates and won nothing. I wont even bother to tell you how many GP crates I spun. Nothing. My methed had always worked before. It started to really go bad after the holloween patch.

    I totally agree. People say my methodology is not a method, that it was simply luck. However, I have videos on youtube proving the methods functionality and proof that it USED to work. Unless g4box got scheme-y and changed the algorithm JUST to stop people from winning guns, AND TO BE GREEDY AND HAVE PEOPLE SPEND MORE AND MORE ON ZP AND WIN NO PERM GUNS,

    this seems to be the scenario.

    Notice no mods have weighed in yet, this makes me think I am on to something.
    (and if a mod were to chime in regardless, I know what they would say.)
  • BullSquid wrote: »
    I spent most of last night sifting through peoples profiles who have won several guns from the black market, and everyone who has won a good amount of weapons from ZP crates seem to have either 11 or 12 pages of guns on their profile, including myself (12 pages including temporary weapons.)
    My question is, I have won many guns from crates. The last thing I won was the Gatling Gun - Halloween last year. I spun like 200 Xmas crates, 300 royal dragon crates, and a bunch of other ZP crates, but did not win any perm weapons since last year.

    What I'm getting at is, is there a gun win limit? I know mods will say " derp buying crates doesn't entitle you nor guarantee a perm weapon." I get that.

    However, I used a very specific method to spin crates to win all I have. I have all the GP crate guns, and used the method to win them. When trying to use it now, I never win anything permanant from ZP crates.

    There has to be a ZP crate perm gun win limit in place because I should have won new guns by now.

    Everyone who has a similar amounts of guns are stuck with what I have. People who have 11-12 pages of guns can not get more permanant guns from ZP crates. That's a fact, its been seen many times.

    So basically, whoever runs thus game is allowing people to spend ZP on ZP crates in an attempt to win permanant guns, which they don't win. I.e. false advertisement. The chances of winning permanant guns has been dropped to <2% for people with many guns.

    It seems that z8games is pandering to new players by giving them more of a chance to win perm ZP weapons over veteran players. How can I spend $100 on ZP crates, spin them, and win no perms. Then, logout, deposit 20k ZP on a newer account (with no guns) and win both the M4A1- E AND AK-47 S using the special method, both from buying only 10 of each crate? This is NOT luck, in any way.

    The people who won new weapons from the Royal dragon crates mainly have ONLY those weapons.

    Sometimes it looks like its "set up" , but its realy just a luck... I think that rewards u will win are arleady defined when u purchase crates, but i dont know.. No one realy knows ..
  • BullSquid wrote: »
    I totally agree. People say my methodology is not a method, that it was simply luck. However, I have videos on youtube proving the methods functionality and proof that it USED to work. Unless g4box got scheme-y and changed the algorithm JUST to stop people from winning guns, AND TO BE GREEDY AND HAVE PEOPLE SPEND MORE AND MORE ON ZP AND WIN NO PERM GUNS,

    this seems to be the scenario.

    Notice no mods have weighed in yet, this makes me think I am on to something.
    (and if a mod were to chime in regardless, I know what they would say.)

    I will tell you a secret. But dont let anyone else know.

    There is no pattern that always works. And none of the mods are told. Also the mods have been saying that there is no true pattern for over 2 years and will continue to do so.
  • There is no limit to the amount of wins at the Black Market as far as I know, but there could be a secret policy that is not exposed to the public.
  • One_Legend wrote: »
    There is no limit to the amount of wins at the Black Market as far as I know, but there could be a secret policy that is not exposed to the public.

    Nope. Why would they want to limit on something that generates money for them.

    No limit to the wins aside from normal rules of allowed weapons.
  • the only limit is the amount of guns you can have that are the same - 6 of each perm gun max.

    as for the rest - it's luck!
  • the only limit is the amount of guns you can have that are the same - 6 of each perm gun max.

    as for the rest - it's luck!

    There is a maximum gun limit though, Like 250 guns in storage or something. I remember Saidin saying it.
  • the only limit is the amount of guns you can have that are the same - 6 of each perm gun max.

    *except if it's a bp perm.
    Then you can buy as many as you want before you break your gun storage.
  • People complaining about not winning in x amount of gp crates always makes me laugh. I've spent over 1,000 gp crates without winning weapons before. In fact I've spun over 500k zp without winning a zp crate weapon a few times.

    Don't come in here and talk about your bad luck. You don't know the beginning of it.
  • GodsGunman wrote: »
    People complaining about not winning in x amount of gp crates always makes me laugh. I've spent over 1,000 gp crates without winning weapons before. In fact I've spun over 500k zp without winning a zp crate weapon a few times.

    Don't come in here and talk about your bad luck. You don't know the beginning of it.

    I cant win p90 camo.

    spent 1.8 mil gp on it.
  • 1,000 ZP Crates before i won anything. :P

    I had like 600 coupons before i actually won a ZP BM gun.
  • BudKiller wrote: »
    I cant win p90 camo.

    spent 1.8 mil gp on it.

    won it in 10 crates.

    on the day it came out.

    but OT: think they've limited bp guns now too.
  • BudKiller wrote: »
    I cant win p90 camo.

    spent 1.8 mil gp on it.

    It took me about that much to win the anaconda adv I think.
    'Chaos wrote:
    Oh;2940628']1,000 ZP Crates before i won anything. :P

    I had like 600 coupons before i actually won a ZP BM gun.

    VATAV spent about that much before he won the gatling gun, he then won the mauser on the same day.
  • GodsGunman wrote: »
    It took me about that much to win the anaconda adv I think.



    VATAV spent about that much before he won the gatling gun, he then won the mauser on the same day.

    I heard about vatav - I feel bad about his luck :confused:
  • No Sir. You're just getting extremely Unlucky. :( Sorry
  • No,look at the top players
    Look at their weapons