Z8 an hackers

i think z8, should reimburse all players that spend zp, only to play against hackers. As a customers we should be able to play with peace an mind with out hackers. z8 hiding behind xtrap is no excuse, game mods should be held accountable for not pro-suing actions against hackers. z8 makes it to easy for people to hack. they have no in game mods at all, no way to ban them temporarily while the accts are being investigated for hacking, if z8 is going to make it easy for them, then we should be repaid our zp in full. after all the idea of a paying customer is to keep us, an customers in a business world is always right.

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  • LB_Lucky wrote: »
    implied when paying for zp

    You are not entitled to any preferential or special treatment when paying or acquiring ZP.
  • it is also implied when z8 hired in xtrap, not our fault xtrap is not doing the job. it is up to z8 to put pressure on xtrap to fix the problem.
  • can you tell im mad at hackers :( i am bad at ghost mode. but a waller sits there a kills ghost with out even moving is annoying especially since xtrap is suppose to filter out the hacks of walling an doesn't. we can also turn it around to another way to look at it. xtrap is a sub contracted to do business for z8 an is not living up to what they are suppose to do
  • LB_Lucky wrote: »
    it is also implied when z8 hired in xtrap, not our fault xtrap is not doing the job. it is up to z8 to put pressure on xtrap to fix the problem.

    There have been notes of XTrap patches several times within weeks, which is a grand improvement from the past.

    And yes, it is obvious you are angry.

    And seeing 1 waller in the game does not mean the company has failed in its endeavor. Hacking in games is an industry-wide problem ya know.
  • where are the improvements cant tell there is any. there should be in game mod available to reach so they can see first hand the hackers. im not saying allow players to ban. we all know people yell hackers to every one. but in game mod can come into the room an see for his self or her self an temp ban the suspected player till the z8 investigation is finished an completed. it only takes 1 in game mod to do this

    with in game mods available it would cut down hackers a lot since they do not want to be banned. that in game mod would get better results than us players sending in reports since the hackers laugh about it any ways

    btw all players is customers, with out us players there is no crossfire
  • LB_Lucky wrote: »
    where are the improvements cant tell there is any. there should be in game mod available to reach so they can see first hand the hackers. im not saying allow players to ban. we all know people yell hackers to every one. but in game mod can come into the room an see for his self or her self an temp ban the suspected player till the z8 investigation is finished an completed. it only takes 1 in game mod to do this

    with in game mods available it would cut down hackers a lot since they do not want to be banned. that in game mod would get better results than us players sending in reports since the hackers laugh about it any ways

    btw all players is customers, with out us players there is no crossfire

    The forum mods are also ingame mods. And we are only human, not robots. We cannot play 24/7 like you would expect us to.
  • not implying that the company has failed, i know they have tried to stop it. i am how ever saying xtrap has failed, an the company has to work around it by thinking out side the box an not relying on xtrap.

    an yes i am mad, guess im venting as some players say. but you got to admit, with a ingame mod patrolling the servers an people can whisper him to come into a room to see the hacker first hand is better than sending a report cause he could temp ban them right away. plus reports sent in to back up what the mod from other players
    [MOD]9 wrote: »
    The forum mods are also ingame mods. And we are only human, not robots. We cannot play 24/7 like you would expect us to.

    do you guys have ways for players to contact you. to tell you what room to come in to and see first hand? do you have ways to temp ban the suspected hacker till the investigation of it is completed?

    more or less that is what i think should be done. believe me i love crossfire, if i didnt i would not have 8 accts to play on, an a clan to play with. i like it that much. just hate all the hacks.
  • umm i am kind of new to the forum thing, rarely come on, you sent me a msg how do i get to read it, guess im making you mad now lol
  • You don't know that XTrap has failed or not. The actual numbers that would implicate or exonerate the company won't be released, that is explained in the stickied thread

    You can always whisper a MOD, most of us have our whispers enabled. And we won't go into what we do as ingame mods. ;)

    Click on UserCP at the top there, then see the PM that I sent ya.
    Or you will see that you have new messages.
  • LB_Lucky wrote: »
    can you tell im mad at hackers :( i am bad at ghost mode. but a waller sits there a kills ghost with out even moving is annoying especially since xtrap is suppose to filter out the hacks of walling an doesn't.

    You do know that many people could locate exactly where you are even if you don't move without hacks and using just your breath? It's called pin pointing.

    Whilst wallers do kill ghosts that don't move, just because someone kills you without moving doesn't mean they hack.

    The only way to tell that a player is walling is if they are out of the breath zone and still kill you without moving, even then you have to rule out anything else such as did they see you go there (even though you didn't see them), did someone else shoot at you giving your position away?
  • Chimpzz wrote: »
    You do know that many people could locate exactly where you are even if you don't move without hacks and using just your breath? It's called pin pointing.

    Whilst wallers do kill ghosts that don't move, just because someone kills you without moving doesn't mean they hack.

    The only way to tell that a player is walling is if they are out of the breath zone and still kill you without moving, even then you have to rule out anything else such as did they see you go there (even though you didn't see them), did someone else shoot at you giving your position away?

    Also not to rule out random luck and bad/common hiding spots.
    Spraying near a area ghost are known to hide is quite common.

    Also a lucky shot happens from time to time.
    Just yesterday I was using a AWM Camo in GM and tried to snipe a running ghost, missed him but hit a still ghost in the head that was much farther away behind him.
  • VATAV wrote: »
    Also not to rule out random luck and bad/common hiding spots.
    Spraying near a area ghost are known to hide is quite common.

    Also a lucky shot happens from time to time.
    Just yesterday I was using a AWM Camo in GM and tried to snipe a running ghost, missed him but hit a still ghost in the head that was much farther away behind him.

    LOL

    LOL

    VATAV, did you think you may have hurt the little ghost's feelings, even just a smidgen?

    If not, you definitely hurt his face. Poor guy.
  • @LB_Lucky

    1. Complaining on the Forums won't get your case anywhere. It has been done numerous times by numerous people over and over again. Nothing changes.

    2. Like 9 said, hacking in games is a globally known activity and issue. Why doesn't it stop you may ask? That's because people use such things called "Bypasses" to work their way around a program like XTrap, therefor to say that XTrap or the MODs/GMs are not doing there job is entirely illogical. What Bypasses do is they basically, as stated before, work their way around programs like XTrap and enable the hack to be used in-game, without XTrap picking it up. This is why we have MODs in game, like 9 here, that help to moderate not only hackers, but people who are breaking other rules of Cross Fire. They do their best. Another way to get rid of hackers is to submit a support ticket showing the proof of the hacking with a replay, with a well provided description of the hacking, and when it occurred.
  • Xtrap does its best to keep the hacks out, but as xtrap updates so do the hacks, its not xtraps fault that they cant keep up with the no life hackers who sit there all day, so just lay off this will eventually get fixed
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    Click on UserCP at the top there, then see the PM that I sent ya.
    Or you will see that you have new messages.


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    9 sent you a message..? Lock your doors, and hide in a closet, that's all I can do to help you.
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    You don't know that XTrap has failed or not. The actual numbers that would implicate or exonerate the company won't be released, that is explained in the stickied thread

    xtrap is trash, no numbers needed

    the fact that it takes weeks for cheats to get patched and that they can be made working again by changing one or two lines of code and recompiling is proof enough that xtrap is basically a waste of time

    netcode structure of this game is awful too

    not doing enough simulation serverside (i guess that's hard though when you're cramming 100+ rooms on one box)

    diminishing returns with a clientside anticheat in a f2p game. if someone gets banned, they can make a new account for free and resume cheating
  • well who ever posted about that z8 dont do enough well would like to see you try to get a game hack free each game got hacks but when you have so much people give them out for free and tell about it on crossfire then more and more people get it and some people leave and some start hacking but crossfire never gonna be hack free no matter how hard they try they cant
  • TheBuzzer wrote: »
    xtrap is trash, no numbers needed

    the fact that it takes weeks for cheats to get patched and that they can be made working again by changing one or two lines of code and recompiling is proof enough that xtrap is basically a waste of time

    netcode structure of this game is awful too

    not doing enough simulation serverside (i guess that's hard though when you're cramming 100+ rooms on one box)

    diminishing returns with a clientside anticheat in a f2p game. if someone gets banned, they can make a new account for free and resume cheating
    well yes they can make a new account but most hackers are brasil's but they ip ban most of europe and i dont know why but they should ip ban brasil and not europe like they got a UK server well a few and then they ip ban most of europe so i dont really know what the point is of the UK servers well they should just keep one server and thats it because just 1 is getting full but the other dont so
  • About that Ghost Mode complaint... they use to call it ''headphones''
  • Actuly iv Ben playing this game for 4 years but u forgot email of my other account so I started this account in 2010 and back in 2008 n 2009 there's was alot but since 2012 iv seen 1 hacker 1 and I play 10H per day on weekends I'm 2 silver bar levels and I have si much zp and money spent and I don't regret at all of spending money hacking is a problems in every game EVERY and crossfire is doing an amazing job cause hacking is decreasing alot
  • Oh and today I joined ghost mode game I got 3 kill then 3 more then 2 next round same I don't even play with headphones I got kicked in spot for hacking only one guys on other team as high level as me understood the feeling of being pro and ggeting called a hacker at my level and using his m4 i don't think a hacker would risk an account with 700$ spent on it.
  • But what i do now I play with my clan canadaForces pro clan and they f12 so we got each others back :)
  • yeah there use to be a time they didn't have hackers well it was specail to see one but a few months ago the non hackers didn't have a chance to play the game it was full of hackers like each game 2-3 people shooting base to base but as z8 and the mods wouldn't try to get it hack free then they still would be shooting base to base and now i dont see anyone doing it anymore so they try but no matter how hard they try they still gonna have hackers on it each game got it so everone kinda have to deal with it