Coupon weapons
my suggestion: add ALL BM permanent weapons to coupon exchange system and extend that system.
For example, usually we can get M249 (aka Minimi) only from BM crates. My proposal - set the price of coupon exchange 250 coupons for M249. 400 coupons - for Gatling Gun. 120 coupons - for M4A1-E, Kriss. 250 coupons - for M14ebr. All seasonal and SPECIAL weapons like M249-xmas, M4A1-spring, MG-3 - must be owned only from BM crates. Imho, that action can improve collection coupons and reduse crying about "unfair Black Market".
For example, usually we can get M249 (aka Minimi) only from BM crates. My proposal - set the price of coupon exchange 250 coupons for M249. 400 coupons - for Gatling Gun. 120 coupons - for M4A1-E, Kriss. 250 coupons - for M14ebr. All seasonal and SPECIAL weapons like M249-xmas, M4A1-spring, MG-3 - must be owned only from BM crates. Imho, that action can improve collection coupons and reduse crying about "unfair Black Market".
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It'd be better if they did the complete opposite. Put special weapons that can only be obtained in the coupon system. It'd make it more into the bonus system that it's meant to be.
dear MOD, why not?
as we all know, we get coupons ONLY from BM crates... and we can get coupons more often from ZP crates and more rarely - from GP crates. So... imho, 400 coupons is a equal price of usual Gatling Gun, imho. For example, Gold Gatling Gun, Hellowin GG etc. we can get ONLY from crates. IMHO, thats make BM more fair. If you a BIG unlucky in BM crates - you can collect coupons and exchange it to needed weapon
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dear MOD, why not?
as we all know, we get coupons ONLY from BM crates... and we can get coupons more often from ZP crates and more rarely - from GP crates. So... imho, 400 coupons is a equal price of usual Gatling Gun, imho. For example, Gold Gatling Gun, Hellowin GG etc. we can get ONLY from crates. IMHO, thats make BM more fair. If you a BIG unlucky in BM crates - you can collect coupons and exchange it to needed weapon
And this is how Z8 is full of smart people which realize some people, me included will waste a lot of money to try and get one gun which we can only get in black market and not coupons.
They do it so they can make more money basically, the bm is an evil thing. -
aExtinction wrote: »And this is how Z8 is full of smart people which realize some people, me included will waste a lot of money to try and get one gun which we can only get in black market and not coupons.
They do it so they can make more money basically, the bm is an evil thing.
i agree with your opinion about BM and Z8Games but, the smart trader must draw attention to his goods. My suggestion must lead to improve coupon exchange system and to increase sale of ZP crates with reducing of crying about "unfair Black Market" 
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I like the idea, but those prices are ridiculously high. 120 coupons for a Kriss? You do realize that it used to be only 80 coupons right? But yes adding temp weapons to coupon slots is just plain absurd.
Stop complaining about it and be happy that there even might be a possibility of us getting ZP crate items for coupons. -
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I like the idea, but those prices are ridiculously high. 120 coupons for a Kriss? You do realize that it used to be only 80 coupons right? But yes adding temp weapons to coupon slots is just plain absurd.
IF Z8Games want - they can set temporary weapons from 10 to 70 coupons. But from 80 to 400 coupons - we must have a chance to exchange coupons for good and powerful PERMANENT weapon, imho. -
great ideas really, I'll use myself as an example, I have run out of things that I want with coupons and bonus points for that matter so I rarely purchase zp anymore because the coupons and bp are just sitting there basically going to waste. Gamers love variety and we need and crave more of it. I have some guns that I just wanted but never use, lots of us just collect them. Even if some are just reskins with 5 extra bullets it's better than the crap they have in coupons now. There should never ever be more than 2 of the same thing in there for reasons I have stated many times before. The time for some creativity is way over due. Shouldn't need to be said. Doesn't anyone keep track of the crate stats as to which ones people buy and which ones no one buys?
Also this can and should be applied to bonus points. -
I think this idea has merit. You are technically spinning for Coupons Only. Then trade for the weapons. The better the gun, the more coupons needed. This is not a chance at a gun. As long as you keep getting coupons, you are gauranteed a gun. Good Idea. It will make money because many people are already discouraged by the Black market "Random" winners. PLUS, I hate the TROLLS who post they got the OP gun in 3 crates. WTF.
GP guns will be the lowest costing Coupons. ZP Guns will cost the most. Very good idea. I hope they look at it. I would buy again. -
my suggestion: add ALL BM permanent weapons to coupon exchange system and extend that system.
For example, usually we can get M249 (aka Minimi) only from BM crates. My proposal - set the price of coupon exchange 250 coupons for M249. 400 coupons - for Gatling Gun. 120 coupons - for M4A1-E, Kriss. 250 coupons - for M14ebr. All seasonal and SPECIAL weapons like M249-xmas, M4A1-spring, MG-3 - must be owned only from BM crates. Imho, that action can improve collection coupons and reduse crying about "unfair Black Market".
I like it . -
RumAndCoke wrote: »I agree but i doubt they will ever do it.In fact I wouldn't be suprised if in the next patch they remove the AWM camo and PSG from the 70 coupon slot.To make way for more unwanted never seen before temp guns.
From a sales perspective I very often question their choices and decisions, they often miss the boat, prime example is have a Kriss and now a new Kriss as zp bm weapons, who is seriously going to buy the old one? Not too many people I would think, it's on the 2nd page what new player would even bother looking there. All the cool skins and new guns are on the first page. You need to put the old stuff "on sale" it's what all stores do to get rid of slow moving inventory. Make it so there's only 100 left after that they are all gone. That would motivate people who really wanted on to buy some zp and try to get one, especially if they increased the changes of getting it. Well anyway this all seems so obvious to me maybe the need to hire a sales person or replace the one they have if they have one. -
I think they're trying to draw attention more on the Black Market crate system and less on Coupons as a means to get cool new permanent weapons. Granted, there will be a permanent weapon in coupons, but I think the focus should be on the Crate and it's winning permanent weapon rather than trying to win coupons.
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I think they're trying to draw attention more on the Black Market crate system and less on Coupons as a means to get cool new permanent weapons. Granted, there will be a permanent weapon in coupons, but I think the focus should be on the Crate and it's winning permanent weapon rather than trying to win coupons.
I can't win ZP crates, i rely on Coupons >:0
Give me back my AK Knife
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I think they're trying to draw attention more on the Black Market crate system and less on Coupons as a means to get cool new permanent weapons. Granted, there will be a permanent weapon in coupons, but I think the focus should be on the Crate and it's winning permanent weapon rather than trying to win coupons.
dear MOD 9, please read that message. And that message too. I tired to explain my position every time -
Deltin24018 wrote: »From a sales perspective I very often question their choices and decisions, they often miss the boat, prime example is have a Kriss and now a new Kriss as zp bm weapons, who is seriously going to buy the old one? Not too many people I would think, it's on the 2nd page what new player would even bother looking there. All the cool skins and new guns are on the first page. You need to put the old stuff "on sale" it's what all stores do to get rid of slow moving inventory. Make it so there's only 100 left after that they are all gone. That would motivate people who really wanted on to buy some zp and try to get one, especially if they increased the changes of getting it. Well anyway this all seems so obvious to me maybe the need to hire a sales person or replace the one they have if they have one.
they must hire me as sales manager and i'll make Z8Games more rich company -
I think they're trying to draw attention more on the Black Market crate system and less on Coupons as a means to get cool new permanent weapons. Granted, there will be a permanent weapon in coupons, but I think the focus should be on the Crate and it's winning permanent weapon rather than trying to win coupons.
I think you are correct and if there was no bp or coupon system these topics would be moot. But since they have put these extra systems in, they need to take care of them and give them more attention. No one expects these items to be on par with the zp items but good lord having to 2 psg red dragons in there for how long now???? that's just lazy and lacks anything closely related to creativity.
one very simple solutions, focus on variety. -
my suggestion: add ALL BM permanent weapons to coupon exchange system and extend that system.
For example, usually we can get M249 (aka Minimi) only from BM crates. My proposal - set the price of coupon exchange 250 coupons for M249. 400 coupons - for Gatling Gun. 120 coupons - for M4A1-E, Kriss. 250 coupons - for M14ebr. All seasonal and SPECIAL weapons like M249-xmas, M4A1-spring, MG-3 - must be owned only from BM crates. Imho, that action can improve collection coupons and reduse crying about "unfair Black Market".
Price i Do not agree. but i do agree they should move the BM perm guns to Cupon exchange. -
I think they're trying to draw attention more on the Black Market crate system and less on Coupons as a means to get cool new permanent weapons. Granted, there will be a permanent weapon in coupons, but I think the focus should be on the Crate and it's winning permanent weapon rather than trying to win coupons.
What about people that spend hundreds on BM and win nothing?
The only reason why I continued to spend money on BM was because the coupons meant I could still get something for the money I invested. With the removal of more and more perm stuff from coupons I can no longer justify spending hundreds with the risk of getting nothing from it.
Switching to temp stuff in coupons only really affects heavy spenders.
By making coupons value lower Z8 gives ZP buyers less reason to buy more ZP. With the risk of not winning anything in BM, coupons we're a safe bet to get something useful even if one didn't win anything.
With the change to coupon system right now, I can't justify spending anymore money on this game. I used to spend $100 average a month on this game, I plan to continue playing for a long time so Z8 lost $1,200-$3,600 future revenue from me alone.
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