Buy ZP and try to win patriot or wait for spring?

Opinions? I'll probably regret buying and failing to get patriot when something amazing comes out in spring, but then i'll end up buying even more anyway to try spring crates.

I'm so irresponsible with my money.

Is the patriot harder to win than other guns? I've got quite a few BM guns and this is one that i just can't seem to win. If so.. is it worth it (in your opinion)?

I'm only a GM player lol

Comments

  • Beleeive wrote: »
    Opinions? I'll probably regret buying and failing to get patriot when something amazing comes out in spring, but then i'll end up buying even more anyway to try spring crates.

    I'm so irresponsible with my money.

    Is the patriot harder to win than other guns? I've got quite a few BM guns and this is one that i just can't seem to win. If so.. is it worth it (in your opinion)?

    I'm only a GM player lol
    wait for spring crates if there are no "silenced" weapons or any meele weapon,get the patriot ;)
    also its all in luck that you will get crate weapon.
  • Wait till Spring and if the weps don't beat Patriot, still get the Patriot crates.
  • DNate54 wrote: »
    wait for spring crates if there are no "silenced" weapons or any meele weapon,get the patriot ;)
    also its all in luck that you will get crate weapon.
    I mean i knew that it's all about luck, though since z8 refuses to release information on how the black market works (not that i blame them) it's up to each person how random they believe it is. Some people believe the more zp you buy the better your chances, I bought zp for the first time in 09 and won the m4 custom on the first crate (and i only bought one) so i don't think it has anything to do with that. I really believe timing has something to do with it, because i notice you'll see no messages about winners for an hour or two then you'll see 2-3 in a 5 minute period. From now on i plan to open right after I see a winner, to test this theory. I don't think how long you hold the spinner has any effect personally lol.

    I think that's what i'll do though, wait until i see what comes out, if there are no silenced weapons or at least none better than m4 patriot i'll just do patriot crates again. Hopefully a melee weapon comes out, doubt it though.
  • id go for the patriot cause the spring crap will probably be pink
  • badsack1 wrote: »
    id go for the patriot cause the spring crap will probably be pink

    I'm bad enough at playing as GR, I'll take any help I can get, including an OP gun. Even if the cost is my pride and looking a little homosexual. :P
  • Beleeive wrote: »
    I'm bad enough at playing as GR, I'll take any help I can get, including an OP gun. Even if the cost is my pride and looking a little homosexual. :P
    homosexual? lmao
    me dieing atm xD
    just wait for the spring crates.If all is crap,buy patriot crates like i did said ;)
  • SexyPollo wrote: »
    Buy cloths.
    maybe he have alot of the cloths?
  • DNate54 wrote: »
    maybe he have alot of the cloths?

    is this some kind of inside joke i don't understand lol
  • meh, GM is all about finding the ghosts what gun you have maks little difference.

    although unless there is a perm meelay in the spring crates i would go for the partiot.
  • meh, GM is all about finding the ghosts what gun you have maks little difference.

    although unless there is a perm meelay in the spring crates i would go for the partiot.

    This is awkward to ask since i've been playing since 09 and don't know lol

    but around what time has the spring patch come each year?
  • buy patriot crates. its MUCH better than the spring in so many ways.
    1. It has a scope
    2.It reloads faster
    3. It also has wallbang.
    4. Its black and white, not girly pink, i.e. it doesnt stick out as much in game.
  • OMG i also won m4a1 custom first crate! Bought 1 zp crate of m4 custom from survey zp and won..also happened with my awm RD..bought 9 crates from survey zp and won first crate!
    Here is vid of awm rD winning :3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZELsF1b5acI
  • Beleeive wrote: »
    I'm bad enough at playing as GR, I'll take any help I can get, including an OP gun. Even if the cost is my pride and looking a little homosexual. :P

    "Real Men Wear Pink"



    means real mean are confident enough in their sexuality they can wear pink.
  • Wait for the spring crates to come in, and then decide.

    Who knows, the spring crate just might bring in the M4A1 Patriot Pink...or it could bring in the FAMAS Pink...
  • OMG i also won m4a1 custom first crate! Bought 1 zp crate of m4 custom from survey zp and won..also happened with my awm RD..bought 9 crates from survey zp and won first crate!
    Here is vid of awm rD winning :3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZELsF1b5acI

    So unfair crossfire
  • UNSF1 wrote: »
    buy patriot crates. its MUCH better than the spring in so many ways.
    1. It has a scope
    2.It reloads faster
    3. It also has wallbang.
    4. Its black and white, not girly pink, i.e. it doesnt stick out as much in game.

    I mean spring has the exact same reload time and 100% wallbang actually but

    im thinking it wont be m4 spring again, itll be different.
  • I would wait because I'm sure there will be seasonal crate guns like last year.
  • Wait for Spring. I'm sure the Spring patch will bring much better things.
  • I would wait and see if there's anything good, if not get the patriot.
  • Beleeive wrote: »
    I mean i knew that it's all about luck, though since z8 refuses to release information on how the black market works (not that i blame them) it's up to each person how random they believe it is. Some people believe the more zp you buy the better your chances, I bought zp for the first time in 09 and won the m4 custom on the first crate (and i only bought one) so i don't think it has anything to do with that. I really believe timing has something to do with it, because i notice you'll see no messages about winners for an hour or two then you'll see 2-3 in a 5 minute period. From now on i plan to open right after I see a winner, to test this theory. I don't think how long you hold the spinner has any effect personally lol.

    I think that's what i'll do though, wait until i see what comes out, if there are no silenced weapons or at least none better than m4 patriot i'll just do patriot crates again. Hopefully a melee weapon comes out, doubt it though.

    Why hello fellow ex-foe:P. The black market is like roulette, and I should know since I've spent as much time there as anyone. You can hit the right crate in 1 spin or you may let your subconscious behaviors get the best of you and presume that your 1000 crates guarantees you getting the gun. It doesn't. Believe me -_-. Your timing method is most likely incidental although personally I have conjectured that once a gun is won, it must be replaced immediately to give the odds to be the same for the next person, subsequently in theory the moment a gun is won it is replaced so if two people spin at split seconds differentials, if the first person wins then second person TECHNICALLY had a one crate advantage on the previous as statistics would have it the second person was spinning for the first persons crate, and the re-established new crate to replace the old one. I have pondered this a bit and haven't simplified it much but in theory with statistics it makes sense. This would account for the wins to be more grouped together rather than spread out. This theory implies there is only an online distribution of crates so as to account for the variable of the crates being purchased, and then opened later. I would say that the crate you purchase is actually changing with every other persons spin as they are more abstract than concrete.

    And yes I do believe that you should purchase the m4a1 s patriot as the spring is not guaranteed for rerelease and the patriot is an awesome gun to play with as soon as possible.

    /rant.
  • SIinky wrote: »
    Why hello fellow ex-foe:P. The black market is like roulette, and I should know since I've spent as much time there as anyone. You can hit the right crate in 1 spin or you may let your subconscious behaviors get the best of you and presume that your 1000 crates guarantees you getting the gun. It doesn't. Believe me -_-. Your timing method is most likely incidental although personally I have conjectured that once a gun is won, it must be replaced immediately to give the odds to be the same for the next person, subsequently in theory the moment a gun is won it is replaced so if two people spin at split seconds differentials, if the first person wins then second person TECHNICALLY had a one crate advantage on the previous as statistics would have it the second person was spinning for the first persons crate, and the re-established new crate to replace the old one. I have pondered this a bit and haven't simplified it much but in theory with statistics it makes sense. This would account for the wins to be more grouped together rather than spread out. This theory implies there is only an online distribution of crates so as to account for the variable of the crates being purchased, and then opened later. I would say that the crate you purchase is actually changing with every other persons spin as they are more abstract than concrete.

    And yes I do believe that you should purchase the m4a1 s patriot as the spring is not guaranteed for rerelease and the patriot is an awesome gun to play with as soon as possible.

    /rant.

    No idea what any of that means but yeah i've wasted about 200k zp trying for patriot failing along the way. Basically what you said was: "it's random" right? lol
  • wait for spring if it doesnt have anything worht it just get patriot
  • Beleeive wrote: »
    No idea what any of that means but yeah i've wasted about 200k zp trying for patriot failing along the way. Basically what you said was: "it's random" right? lol

    :) yep! Although theoretically the odds may be slightly different at times, according to my hypothesis presented.
  • Beleeive wrote: »
    is this some kind of inside joke i don't understand lol
    maybeeeee :rolleyes: