CF Censorship and you

I'm going to try and make this post as short as possible.

We censor words in Cross Fire to cover things like language and racism to a degree. We also censor some words and phrases associated with the senseless promotion of hacks and hack sites.

But there is no way that we're going to be able to cover all bases in all languages and all topics.

The CF Chat system is limited. We have to work within the tools given to us. Since there is no option to turn it on or off we have to censor some words. While chat spam is a problem its a low priority because it doesn't affect the gameplay. Ignore the chat and you'll be fine.

We also can't cover 100% of the words because then everything in chat would just look like ***. It's already a rough enough situation that some standard words are censored from past attempts at shutting down hack spam.

Adding or subtracting words to this list is not as simple as one might think. There are different lists for different versions, and the more variances the more potential mistakes can happen and things being censored we don't want censored.

We try to update or modify the list as best we can over time, but it's not as simple as someone making an angry post saying "omg we can't say Christian but some BR just insulted me in Portuguese!" Yes, this is not an ideal situation, yes you can report people for insulting/swearing/racism even in other languages. Yes we all have to take a step back and deal with it.

Threads on this subject matter will be merged and closed as necessary because it seems impossible for people to discuss this subject without flaming.


Lastly, one note about "free speech rights". The game is a privately run game. These forums, while publicly accessible are a private section of the internet. As such, we can (and will) watch what people say. And if you step across the line we will kindly escort you off our property.
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  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    I'm going to try and make this post as short as possible.

    We censor words in Cross Fire to cover things like language and racism to a degree. We also censor some words and phrases associated with the senseless promotion of hacks and hack sites.

    But there is no way that we're going to be able to cover all bases in all languages and all topics.

    The CF Chat system is limited. We have to work within the tools given to us. Since there is no option to turn it on or off we have to censor some words. While chat spam is a problem its a low priority because it doesn't affect the gameplay. Ignore the chat and you'll be fine.

    We also can't cover 100% of the words because then everything in chat would just look like ***. It's already a rough enough situation that some standard words are censored from past attempts at shutting down hack spam.

    Adding or subtracting words to this list is not as simple as one might think. There are different lists for different versions, and the more variances the more potential mistakes can happen and things being censored we don't want censored.

    We try to update or modify the list as best we can over time, but it's not as simple as someone making an angry post saying "omg we can't say Christian but some BR just insulted me in Portuguese!" Yes, this is not an ideal situation, yes you can report people for insulting/swearing/racism even in other languages. Yes we all have to take a step back and deal with it.

    Threads on this subject matter will be merged and closed as necessary because it seems impossible for people to discuss this subject without flaming.


    Lastly, one note about "free speech rights". The game is a privately run game. These forums, while publicly accessible are a private section of the internet. As such, we can (and will) watch what people say. And if you step across the line we will kindly escort you off our property.

    This is true but i think you guys need to remove the censor to the word "awsome" this is a little stupid to block it

    and if you say "look at its head" the "at ti.ts" is blocked because of ti.ts...

    And if you say im portuguese: "tar.de" the "tar.d" is blocked because of the reta.rded word
  • Lol they need to block porra gringo and miniping etc
  • cybetron wrote: »
    This is true but i think you guys need to remove the censor to the word "awsome" this is a little stupid to block it

    and if you say "look at its head" the "at ti.ts" is blocked because of ti.ts...

    And if you say im portuguese: "tar.de" the "tar.d" is blocked because of the reta.rded word
    well, those can't be rempved. There will also be some words that include some inappropriate words, if they'd make some kind of exceptions (if that's even possible) to some words like allow the "t.its" in "look at its head" people might use this to bypass the filter if they wanna insult others and the list will quickly be too long with these exceptions and it will be just too much work.
    Therefore its not possible to not to censor stuff like "look at its head" as it includes some inappropriate word.
    EDIT:
    Lol they need to block porra gringo and miniping etc
    +1 on this-
  • Can you maybe add a ingame function to block ALL chat instead of going person by person in a 16 man room?
  • RTOman wrote: »
    Can you maybe add a ingame function to block ALL chat instead of going person by person in a 16 man room?

    +1 Cause my fps drops by 20+ win they SPAM f11 and all that :s
  • RTOman wrote: »
    Can you maybe add a ingame function to block ALL chat instead of going person by person in a 16 man room?

    ^
    Also,at least censor the word "noob".It's overused,ppl spam the whole time.ak noob,m4 noob,m12 noob,sl noob,slash noob etc etc.It's censored in cf eu,so why not in our version too?
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    While chat spam is a problem its a low priority because it doesn't affect the gameplay. Ignore the chat and you'll be fine.

    Kinda hard to ignore it if there's 3/4 people spamming the chat. And I'm sure people who don't have a high end pc are affected by it. Spamming the chat makes people lag.
    Originally Posted by RTOman View Post
    Can you maybe add a ingame function to block ALL chat instead of going person by person in a 16 man room?

    I totally agree on this. I've asked it before, a long time ago but got no proper answer. Isn't it easier to just have a function to disable ALL the chat. Like you said yourself, don't pay attention to the chat. I won't, if I have a box that I can tick to disable it all. The radio messages can be heard so don't have to be read. And the random BS that's sprouted in the chat is horrendous.

    Please give a proper answer, like if it can be implemented in the near future or whatnot.
  • aeV1tas wrote: »
    Please give a proper answer, like if it can be implemented in the near future or whatnot.

    The proper answer is we don't implement any game functions like that. Smilegate develops the game. We communicate with them on words that can be added to the list. And over time the list changes based on our input. Smilegate still has the final say. Can we add some of the words discussed in this thread? Yes. Do we know when they will be added to the game? No.

    At the moment there isn't a function in the game that toggles chat on or off. Will there be one in the future? It is unknown. If there will be one in the future then we will be sure to announce it.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    I'm going to try and make this post as short as possible.

    We censor words in Cross Fire to cover things like language and racism to a degree. We also censor some words and phrases associated with the senseless promotion of hacks and hack sites.

    But there is no way that we're going to be able to cover all bases in all languages and all topics.

    The CF Chat system is limited. We have to work within the tools given to us. Since there is no option to turn it on or off we have to censor some words. While chat spam is a problem its a low priority because it doesn't affect the gameplay. Ignore the chat and you'll be fine.

    We also can't cover 100% of the words because then everything in chat would just look like ***. It's already a rough enough situation that some standard words are censored from past attempts at shutting down hack spam.

    Adding or subtracting words to this list is not as simple as one might think. There are different lists for different versions, and the more variances the more potential mistakes can happen and things being censored we don't want censored.

    We try to update or modify the list as best we can over time, but it's not as simple as someone making an angry post saying "omg we can't say Christian but some BR just insulted me in Portuguese!" Yes, this is not an ideal situation, yes you can report people for insulting/swearing/racism even in other languages. Yes we all have to take a step back and deal with it.

    Threads on this subject matter will be merged and closed as necessary because it seems impossible for people to discuss this subject without flaming.


    Lastly, one note about "free speech rights". The game is a privately run game. These forums, while publicly accessible are a private section of the internet. As such, we can (and will) watch what people say. And if you step across the line we will kindly escort you off our property.

    Make Sense..
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    At the moment there isn't a function in the game that toggles chat on or off. Will there be one in the future? It is unknown. If there will be one in the future then we will be sure to announce it.

    Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not entirely sure if it's easy to implement a function like that, but I know a LOT of people would love it and make use of it. I know I would.

    Thanks for the feedback anyhow.

    /loads CF for some pub games ;)
  • With CF VIP Hack you can bypass it,
    It ridicules me to say HOW PATHETIC THIS GAME HAS BECOME

    Face it Admins, you won the battle for like what, 2-3 days?
    But in the end the Hackers will drive your idiotic consumer out of their misery & entitled themselves as victors of the war.

    Once again, Don't blame the hackers, If you were to found an exploit that satisfy your needs, you wouldn't even hesitate to have a 2nd though, for example: this marketing strategy between North and South AMERICAN SERVERS.

    BLAME YOUR DEVELOPERS.
  • We can't say Christian or Christmas? Why?

    Anyway, thanks the thread.
  • ^
    Also,at least censor the word "noob".It's overused,ppl spam the whole time.ak noob,m4 noob,m12 noob,sl noob,slash noob etc etc.It's censored in cf eu,so why not in our version too?
    You can remove noob, but dont you think that then they just gonna think a new word about noob or they just say noo8 or N008, you cant censore numbers
  • With CF VIP Hack you can bypass it,
    It ridicules me to say HOW PATHETIC THIS GAME HAS BECOME



    Yes true, but you can only bypass it for YOUR CLIENT Meaning everyone else will see you type " ??? ??? " Whilst hackers with "Cuss word bypass" can read your messages
  • abel95 wrote: »
    We can't say Christian or Christmas? Why?

    Anyway, thanks the thread.

    Because of the "Christ" in it. You can't separate "Christ" and "Christian" because it both contain the word christ. And why "Christ" is censored is because of the reason of having all racism/religion talk blocked.
  • It happens all the time, when I say a normal sentence, it comes out with ??? in the middle of the sentence = =
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    I'm going to try and make this post as short as possible.



    yes you can report people for insulting/swearing/racism even in other languages.

    ^^ to this, tired of being called a gringo. from now on, i report the racist SA that call me a gringo, how much proof do you need to suspend someone from gameplay? if gringo, porra, lixo, etc is reportable, i will start sending some more support tickets, because tired of this being spammed at me. (almost all of my threads get closed then answered in another thread, bloody warhawk trolled my thread until it was closed for flame i guess...)
  • [Options]-[Chat]-[Toggle]- Turn off Public Chat [X]| Turn off Clan Chat [ ]|Turn off Friend Chat/Buddy Chat [ ]
    this would be an ideal layout if you ever do come out with a way to turn off chat.
  • Why isnt gay censored?
    Yesterday while playing, some guy kicked the ace and start flaming "Kick this GAY GAY GAY, he can only hack, GAY GAY F11 F11" and so on
  • jarmov wrote: »
    Why isnt gay censored?
    Yesterday while playing, some guy kicked the ace and start flaming "Kick this GAY GAY GAY, he can only hack, GAY GAY F11 F11" and so on

    because then they would have to block straight and bi. and not being able to say bite the dust would suck.
  • The kid itstalk9 is a racist. he says that some countrys are traash. i hate people like him and his sentences are deletet. i hope that peoplelikehe will be banned. in future
  • If the religion is blocked why isnt the sexual orientation?
  • jarmov wrote: »
    If the religion is blocked why isnt the sexual orientation?

    idk.. they allow Muhummad, ahmed, etc when christ is blocked. they only blocked one variation of the name mohammad.
  • Lets face it, how many people will use a word "gay" in game on the right way?
    im sure not many, bc mostly it is for insulting
  • please clarify

    Is the word "gringo" gonna be considered a racist word and bans issued for using it?

    This needs to be clarified specifically by the GM staff!
  • Your_Boss wrote: »
    because then they would have to block straight and bi. and not being able to say bite the dust would suck.

    Why would they block straight its not offensive because its normal but gay is offensive. Im just stating the facts its why people use it as an insult.
  • But noobs use words like hacker andthey can use it. I think it can never be banned
  • Titan4GAME wrote: »
    But noobs use words like hacker and fu.c.k. so: hac.ker ffuucckk or fck. they can use it. I think it can never be banned
    i think the same bc u can say gay in many ways, g4y or 6ay or what u can imagine