Thanks for

Thanks for taking care of your ZP glitch right away z8games [:


But do you mind jumping on the hackers just as fast?

I now feel like someone in the game authority is the one making the cheats,

As does some other people I've been talking with.

EDIT: I know CF and XTRAP bans the hackers, BUT
Do us a favor and make an update asap, as well as launch it asap.

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  • Ltddt wrote: »
    Thanks for taking care of your ZP glitch right away z8games [:


    But do you mind jumping on the hackers just as fast?

    I now feel like someone in the game authority is the one making the cheats,

    As does some other people I've been talking with.
    Z8games deal with hackers every single day
    they send report to xtrap with hacks.
    For the hackers at weekends autoban ban hackers and working days gm's do they jobs
  • DNate54 wrote: »
    Z8games deal with hackers every single day
    they send report to xtrap with hacks.
    For the hackers at weekends autoban ban hackers and working days gm's do they jobs
    I know that. I report hackers and check their profiles and see them banned.

    What I want, is a fuhking update.

    Let me make the thread a little more clear real quick...
  • Should we doing something about the hackers. Yes?

    Can do we anything? No. We are powerless...


    See it this way. If we were to play a game where there is a big piece of paper 10 meters x 10 meters.
    You are first given a 30 second head start.
    You're objective is to poke dots on the paper with a pencil, while I'm trying to find all dots and erase them with the eraser on the back of a mechanical pencil. This is not something easy to achieve for the one to be erasing.

    Now you might think why don't I get a bigger eraser? Well because I pretend to be a cheapo who likes to save money, and we also never tell each other what we/our parents do for a living.
  • Z8games deal with hackers every single day..i hope Gm make a banned list so everyone know are hacking
  • Ltddt wrote: »
    I know that. I report hackers and check their profiles and see them banned.

    What I want, is a fuhking update.

    Let me make the thread a little more clear real quick...
    what kind of update?
    try to be more specific people dont understand what you mean by that. :S
  • ZP purchase glitch isnt fixed yet because i dont see my deposited zp on my acc..
  • Ltddt wrote: »
    I now feel like someone in the game authority is the one making the cheats,

    As does some other people I've been talking with.

    O.o conspiracy!

    *pulls up a chair and sits down*

    So yea, do go on. I'm interested on what you got to say :)
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    O.o conspiracy!

    *pulls up a chair and sits down*

    So yea, do go on. I'm interested on what you got to say :)

    You might want to check out facebook pages , heard they were giving out software
    I reported many with lots of accs and got them closed
  • Hacker are people which are too silly to play normal

    They have to play normal

    I meant they have to learn to play normal
  • So you're saying we make cheats and remove them in the same post
    i'm very confused.





    There won't be any "jumping on the hacks" because working against hacks is a constant mission that doesn't stop just because of another issue (like this ZP issue).
    Its done simultaneously.
  • You only have to look at all the top clans.The vast majority of the high rankers have no honourable ribbon and lots of zp guns. I find it hard to believe that all these thousands of players have had chargebacks. Looks like only temp bans are given out to people who spend lots of money.

    Which is a shame for the rest of us honest players.

    I guess its same reasons mods are not given ingame ban powers.Because z8/g4box don't want mods perm banning thousands of players and cutting off the Z8 cash machine flow.

    Most of the players i've reported have lost their honourable ribbon but are still playing.But i guess that will all be blamed on the autoban system.Which clearly is ineffective because this system seems to temp ban players and then the numerous legit hack reports for these players don't appear to be viewed or just basically ignored.
  • You only have to look at all the top clans.The vast majority of the high rankers have no honourable ribbon and lots of zp guns. I find it hard to believe that all these thousands of players have had chargebacks. Looks like only temp bans are given out to people who spend lots of money.

    Which is a shame for the rest of us honest players.

    I guess its same reasons mods are not given in-game ban powers.Because z8/g4box don't want mods perm banning thousands of players and cutting off the Z8 cash machine flow.

    Most of the players I've reported have lost their honorable ribbon but are still playing.But i guess that will all be blamed on the auto-ban system.Which clearly is ineffective because this system seems to temp ban players and then the numerous legit hack reports for these players don't appear to be viewed or just basically ignored.
    I suppose guessing and drawing conclusion out of delusion is easier than thinking for a minute.
    Not to worry, I am here to do it for you.


    Top 100 clans are generally farming clans. They farm in private, use a cheat, get auto-detected and receive a 7 day ban by the automatic system.
    Lack of honorable soldier ribbon explained.
    Temp bans are handed out by the automatic system (and eventually, permanent).
    Every reported cheater through the manual system, if found cheating, is permanently banned.

    These top clans also have a massive user exchange with plus minus at least 10 players per day.
    If someone is banned for cheating, they replace him fast.



    MODs don't have in-game powers because there isn't any logging function with it.
    Banning an account is NOT pushing a button, its a long process because people spend money on their accounts - mind you its the same process for those who don't - so they deserve real evidence before we ban them.
    It needs to be done by people with liability.
    I could go nuts right now and ban everyone from the forum, but it would be easily reversible because this forum comes with great logging functions for just such an event.
    The in-game ban function does not, so we need the people with access to it to be liable and responsible.
    Values you really can't put onto some anonymous teen you recruited off of the Internet.


    Yes, its possible someone you were reporting had already been caught by the automatic system.
    What you need to focus on is whether or not hes still cheating, not if hes still playing.
    If hes still playing, but legitimately, then theres no real harm.
    He already was punished, no need to punish everyone else by whining about it on the forum.
    If hes still playing and cheating, he'll be banned within a day by the automatic system or by manual reports.


    Its fun to explain this every day. Always some genius thinking he figured out the big secret.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »

    MODs don't have in-game powers because there isn't any logging function with it.
    Banning an account is NOT pushing a button, its a long process because people spend money on their accounts - mind you its the same process for those who don't - so they deserve real evidence before we ban them.
    It needs to be done by people with liability.
    I could go nuts right now and ban everyone from the forum, but it would be easily reversible because this forum comes with great logging functions for just such an event.
    The in-game ban function does not, so we need the people with access to it to be liable and responsible.
    Values you really can't put onto some anonymous teen you recruited off of the Internet.


    Thks for replying.But if that is the case why do the mods on metin2 have in game powers?
  • Thks for replying.But if that is the case why do the mods on metin2 have in game powers?
    They probably have a better system for it.


    And their powers stretch to like "can stop people from chatting".
    Not something very high priority for us, since you can't chat in this game without having half the words censored anyway.
  • Heres a suggestion. Make a perm-ban. Don't let these children be able to play after 1 week.


    Put it under the terms of agreement, that if they choose to hack with ZP items, it's their own fault for losing that item and "wasting" money for it.

    You cheat, you lose. Make that the new slogan for this game.
  • There is no conspiracy, because they lose a lot of customers because of hackers and they too know it.. anyways, they need to acknowledge us on how much banning they do !
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    O.o conspiracy!

    *pulls up a chair and sits down*

    So yea, do go on. I'm interested on what you got to say :)
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    So you're saying we make cheats and remove them in the same post
    i'm very confused.





    There won't be any "jumping on the hacks" because working against hacks is a constant mission that doesn't stop just because of another issue (like this ZP issue).
    Its done simultaneously.
    I'm not saying you make cheats and/or remove them or whatever,

    But I am saying one of you. JUST ONE.
    Could possibly be making/selling cheats.

    Obviously if there really is one who is making/selling cheats, you dont know who he is.


    And what I mean by 'update', is update CF to fix the hacking.
    JUST like you did for the ZP problem.
    Jump on it! Jump on it as fast as you can!
    Dont wait for reports to ban, UPDATE! Banning is great, dont stop it!
    But update CF atleast once a week to stop hacking for a longer period of time!!
    It's much more satisfying than what's currently going on.

  • Ltddt wrote: »
    I'm not saying you make cheats and/or remove them or whatever,

    But I am saying one of you. JUST ONE.
    Could possibly be making/selling cheats.

    Obviously if there really is one who is making/selling cheats, you dont know who he is.


    And what I mean by 'update', is update CF to fix the hacking.
    JUST like you did for the ZP problem.
    Jump on it! Jump on it as fast as you can!
    Dont wait for reports to ban, UPDATE! Banning is great, dont stop it!
    But update CF atleast once a week to stop hacking for a longer period of time!!
    It's much more satisfying than what's currently going on.



    This conspiracy theory blows mine right out the water.


    Just a correction, I believe any decent coder can make a hack for this game. You can make your own hack just by downloading someone else's previous hack. With a good injection and bypassing X-Trap, ta dah, you're in and walling like the rest of the BR apes.

    To be able to sell out your hack, you need expertise, make sure it only goes to a handful of people, so it is not noticeable and not easily fixed.


    If Cross Fire is selling hacks to people, then is absolutely no point at all continuing to play. It would defeat the purpose of the "Free to Play" game.




    On a side note, conspiracy theories need to spin a good yarn, and have some solid facts with a substantial amount of groundwork built on it.
    With yours I see tons of little holes, and fallacies in it. So please either do more research, or take a more advanced English class.
  • Ltddt wrote: »
    I know that. I report hackers and check their profiles and see them banned.

    What I want, is a fuhking update.

    Let me make the thread a little more clear real quick...

    XTrap has updated something like 5 times in the last 10 days. I don't have the specific number in front of me, but it's quite a bit. In fact it's doing a fantastic job right now in addition to the regular bans we issue and other work we do against the hackers within the game.
  • Ltddt wrote: »
    I'm not saying you make cheats and/or remove them or whatever,

    But I am saying one of you. JUST ONE.
    Could possibly be making/selling cheats.

    Obviously if there really is one who is making/selling cheats, you dont know who he is.


    And what I mean by 'update', is update CF to fix the hacking.
    JUST like you did for the ZP problem.
    Jump on it! Jump on it as fast as you can!
    Dont wait for reports to ban, UPDATE! Banning is great, dont stop it!
    But update CF atleast once a week to stop hacking for a longer period of time!!
    It's much more satisfying than what's currently going on.


    Additionally, Z8Games (G4Box) does not code Cross Fire. And the developers work on multiple versions across many languages and countries and they work against hackers on all versions all the time.

    Updating the game every week with what you're requesting is not logical.

    "Fixing" the ZP problem, which I'm very unclear as to what you're referring to required little more than a server restart and a database check. These are things that Z8Games (G4Box) handles, and yes, we monitor that stuff regularly and take necessary steps to fix them when they show up.

    "fixing the zp problem" would have been the same thing if it was a "gp problem". The fact that you keep referring to it as ZP implies that you may be under the believe that we only monitor ZP players or some such nonsense. This is completely false. We take the whole game and its community seriously. From banning hackers to answering questions, to fixing problems etc.
  • i don't care what other player here said about hackers don't you guys realized something hacker coders is smarter than z8 coders and xtrap developer and coders. Someone tell me if u can play other games without h4cker then tell me.. so tired of reading QQ thread about h4ckers or update.. z8 is working h4rd everyday to catch them mofu just sit down and watch :P
  • MrExploits wrote: »
    i don't care what other player here said about hackers don't you guys realized something hacker coders is smarter than z8 coders and xtrap developer and coders. Someone tell me if u can play other games without h4cker then tell me.. so tired of reading QQ thread about h4ckers or update.. z8 is working h4rd everyday to catch them mofu just sit down and watch :P

    Easier to attack than defend...
    Basic software knowledge. When attempting to bypass, you can have hundreds of tries and if it works on one of those tries, you succeeded. When attempting to defend, you must stop all the attacks. If one gets by you, you failed.

    Though our anti-cheat might be "working hard," you can't really tell until you see results.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    XTrap has updated something like 5 times in the last 10 days. I don't have the specific number in front of me, but it's quite a bit. In fact it's doing a fantastic job right now in addition to the regular bans we issue and other work we do against the hackers within the game.
    [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    Additionally, Z8Games (G4Box) does not code Cross Fire. And the developers work on multiple versions across many languages and countries and they work against hackers on all versions all the time.

    Updating the game every week with what you're requesting is not logical.

    "Fixing" the ZP problem, which I'm very unclear as to what you're referring to required little more than a server restart and a database check. These are things that Z8Games (G4Box) handles, and yes, we monitor that stuff regularly and take necessary steps to fix them when they show up.

    "fixing the zp problem" would have been the same thing if it was a "gp problem". The fact that you keep referring to it as ZP implies that you may be under the believe that we only monitor ZP players or some such nonsense. This is completely false. We take the whole game and its community seriously. From banning hackers to answering questions, to fixing problems etc.
    Thank you for explaining.
    I apologize for this..
    I request you close the thread and message me IF you have time
    so I can talk with you to clear up my questions,
    because I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding similar to this.

    I gave up messaging you because your inbox is always full.