Dear Crossfire (stop hacking!)
Dear Z8 Games and Crossfire
I am in your game known as NinoCro. I play your game for more than two years.
I am a member Klan FormatCro and my clan is made up of some of the oldest players in this game from a distant land Croatian from Europe. My clan does not support any illegal activities and hacker activity, and therefore we are very angry about the continuing rise of hackers in this game. We are always present in all activities related to your game and support your every effort to halt the increase in hacker activity in this game, because we are using the same number of friendships made between different age, religious and geographical variety of people and teens. For example, I am 33 years old, some of our members are older than me, and my youngest are 13 years old.
As a long time we receive your notice of control ping and hackers, we have not seen so far none of that, the only client errors and Host errors. Each of our attempt to report or contacting Z8 Games staff had no results, because the feedback is automated and written long before this situation.
So please try to put an end to this circus and be sure to bring the game under your control, not minor crowd control. If you wish to carry out the necessary money, your loyal players like us, you are ready to assist you. Much success in your endeavors you want all 95 members FormataCro and your
NinoCro
I am in your game known as NinoCro. I play your game for more than two years.
I am a member Klan FormatCro and my clan is made up of some of the oldest players in this game from a distant land Croatian from Europe. My clan does not support any illegal activities and hacker activity, and therefore we are very angry about the continuing rise of hackers in this game. We are always present in all activities related to your game and support your every effort to halt the increase in hacker activity in this game, because we are using the same number of friendships made between different age, religious and geographical variety of people and teens. For example, I am 33 years old, some of our members are older than me, and my youngest are 13 years old.
As a long time we receive your notice of control ping and hackers, we have not seen so far none of that, the only client errors and Host errors. Each of our attempt to report or contacting Z8 Games staff had no results, because the feedback is automated and written long before this situation.
So please try to put an end to this circus and be sure to bring the game under your control, not minor crowd control. If you wish to carry out the necessary money, your loyal players like us, you are ready to assist you. Much success in your endeavors you want all 95 members FormataCro and your
NinoCro
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That is quite the message, but i bet z8 will never read it.
that mean. I read it. BUT not to mention he typed Deer In the title. lol. Deer = animal
Please use Dear
Well pings are hard to control. It dosent matter, its just a game. Just enjoy it and have fun. -
moved this to Barracks, as there was no need to have it in Technical Support.
And renamed your title to better display the topic in the thread, also spell-check Dear
OT: Duly noted. Thank you for being a supporter during these apparent bad times.
You can help out by reporting hackers
(You are not obligated to, but it can help!) -
I finally got my first time in 2 weeks to play CF...
OH...MY...FACKING...GAWD.
Not a SINGLE ROOM without a hacker...and this was during the hours when most NA players are in school or heading of to work (I don't have a job yet, and I have college classes 3x a week in the evenings 5PM - 10PM). This caries on WELL through the day until around 10:00PM-ish
They kicked ME for having a low ping faster then they kicked the ass-twit sliding around shooting people through walls... -
Again QQing threads
@[MOD]9: shouldn't this thread be deleted instead of moving it from Techinical support to Barracks ?!
Threads complaining about or involving cheats/cheaters
I just read the title and i don't have to read the rest of the topic as i know what will he talk about
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FYI we have never been able to give notice of "control pings". I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but I think maybe you are referring to ping limits in rooms, and potentially IP restrictions within the game.
Ping limiting is something that has been tabled with the developers however we are unlikely to see it in the game due to tech factors within the program. IP restrictions were implemented in game on a license-basis. Meaning any place we don't have a license for was restricted. Whether or not you found that successful is not for us to comment on. There was a general assumption from the public that was made which caused them to believe something other than what we announced.
We definitely love to hear from our loyal gamers and are grateful that people are playing this game, new and old. We do everything we can about the hackers, the truth however is never something the public wants to believe. It's easier to blame us when 1 hacker ruins a game than to see that if we did nothing there would be many more. And to compound the issue we are powerless to change the assumptions that; everyone who speaks a language other than English is a hacker and that everyone who has a positive kill/death ratio is a hacker. However we are doing the best we can with the tools we have and constantly work with the developers, x-trap and more to reduce the hacking within the game as best as we can. -
MidoIsLegend wrote: »Again QQing threads
@[MOD]9: shouldn't this thread be deleted instead of moving it from Techinical support to Barracks ?!
Threads complaining about or involving cheats/cheaters
I just read the title and i don't have to read the rest of the topic as i know what will he talk about
Well technically yes, but it's sometimes easier for people to vent it out, then we'd quietly close it or let it die xD.
And anyways, his case is a little different from others. I'm partly curious
Saidin has wise words of wisdom, well said Saidin! -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »We definitely love to hear from our loyal gamers and are grateful that people are playing this game, new and old. We do everything we can about the hackers, the truth however is never something the public wants to believe. It's easier to blame us when 1 hacker ruins a game than to see that if we did nothing there would be many more. And to compound the issue we are powerless to change the assumptions that; everyone who speaks a language other than English is a hacker and that everyone who has a positive kill/death ratio is a hacker. However we are doing the best we can with the tools we have and constantly work with the developers, x-trap and more to reduce the hacking within the game as best as we can.
I remember how bad gameguard was so i appriciate that xtrap works , i think it was [MOD]HI made the point in another thread that if you switched xtrap off for a week you would really see how many hacks there could be and appriciate how xtrap is working ... that said when you play ingame and every room has at least 1 waller it does make you feel like not much is being done ( even if thats not the case ) .. but legit players should all stick together and kick and report these idiots that are ruining our game IMO .. -
I remember how bad gameguard was so i appriciate that xtrap works , i think it was [MOD]HI made the point in another thread that if you switched xtrap off for a week you would really see how many hacks there could be and appriciate how xtrap is working ... that said when you play ingame and every room has at least 1 waller it does make you feel like not much is being done ( even if thats not the case ) .. but legit players should all stick together and kick and report these idiots that are ruining our game IMO ..
Even if it was off it wouldn't make that much difference, you could possibly have more hackers shooting through the walls kill stealing each other instead of one doing it with the protection of kick vote.:p
Would be funny though hackers kicking other hackers cos they can't get kills haha -
when i see what i see and hear what i hear im happy to think what i thinkMidoIsLegend wrote: »Again QQing threads
@[MOD]9: shouldn't this thread be deleted instead of moving it from Techinical support to Barracks ?!
Threads complaining about or involving cheats/cheaters
I just read the title and i don't have to read the rest of the topic as i know what will he talk about
ok dude,, this guy have right ,i play for 2 and a half years and i m tired to see only promises 1000 or 100000 of threads against the guys who hak i think r welkome and listen a reply who is not a QQ maibe u will be happy now dear z8 i m happy to play every day cross fire and to b humiliate becos i play fair and others use hack and teach me a leasson what pro r they and what noob i m. ty for let them to shoot me throw walls to kik me when i m ace and is round 12 to snipe me when they r in ghost team to throw me knife in head from 20 meter away maibe now u will b happy mister and said is not a qq post -
ok dude,, this guy have right ,i play for 2 and a half years and i m tired to see only promises 1000 or 100000 of threads against the guys who hak i think r welkome and listen a reply who is not a QQ maibe u will be happy now dear z8 i m happy to play every day cross fire and to b humiliate becos i play fair and others use hack and teach me a leasson what pro r they and what noob i m. ty for let them to shoot me throw walls to kik me when i m ace and is round 12 to snipe me when they r in ghost team to throw me knife in head from 20 meter away maibe now u will b happy mister and said is not a qq post
Sure the guy have right. who said he hasn't ?!
All QQ threads starters have rights in their complaints, but these hacking problems have been discussed manyyyy times, that's why all qqing threads about hacks and hackers have been closed or deleted. every body knows that these guys don't lie, but it's the fact , you asked devs / GMs to help you . now just wait the answer. even if it will take long to answer and i doubt there will ever be, but we have to deal with it ! -
Do people even realize their reporting haackers and cheaters is a futile attempt at keeping this game clean? Seriously so many times have I seen someone haack and be banned, but their back using the same haacks, hours later. Do I report haackers anymore? NO I don't it's just too much of a slap in the face when a haacker gets banned and poof they make another account, turn on their haacks again. And since there will never be a thing called ping limiting rooms or ip restrictions or entire country blocking, we will ALWAYS have an influx of haackers flowing in, using haacks to win, ect.
The MODS and GMS say ohh XTrap is great, it blocks stuff and makes blah blah blah go away... They also say they can't afford a better haack shield, well I see lots of people using zp items and characters, ect. So sales must not be that bad. Could always remove surveys completely to squeeze more money out of people.
But this is a useless thread to make, since all these problematic things will be excused away by the upper ups, with the usual "Were working on it" "We are aware of the current situation" "XTrap and the DEVS are working hard to figure it out" "Haacks are not easily removed" Or they will just close and remove threads like these, give infractions to those who speak the cold and solid truth about how awful this game's protectors are, and give temp bans to those who won't just be quiet.
I really wish they would put in some kind of restrictions for high pingers or certain countries like brazil, turkey, and egypt but that won't happen since if those three countries were to be blocked, the people in the haack department would be out of a job, because the haack rate would plumet down to nothing, and zp sales would go down as well.
Oh well, I will clap my wee lil hands at their "attempt" at fixing such a slime filled pustual of a game. -
No need to aware us of the situation, we already know what's going on. I play this game since OB 09, and I have never complained about anything. not saying you should not complain, don't me wrong please, but I meant that you should send a message to support or as a private message to GM's inside these forums.
ohh and welcome to crossfire, love it or leave it. -
Nice article. But I think the hacker issue is too big, when there are still some bug to be fixed to make the game polished, developer has to work on that first. Otherwise, to play a game with occasionally uncontrollable is a terrible experience.
As we have lots of suggestion against hacker on the forum, some are complex, and some would have side effect, and some would not work at all.
However, I agree on two things:
1. Review and ban should be faster.
2. The report reply should included some information about the decision, otherwise, it is confusing if the report is really reviewed, when combined with the fact that some reported players are still gaming, reply are really slow and we see more and more hackers in the game.
ALSO, I BEG TWO SIMPLE HACKER CONTROL SOLUTIONS:
1. Please give me a respawn confirmation button. So that we can bore the hacker by provide no target for them, when our limited vote prevent us from kick them.
2. Please let me be able to join a passworded room of my friend without really need to input password (i.e., password automatically shared among friend when one of them is hosting). I'd rather be killed 1000 times by legit player to accumulate rage in a game dominated by hackers. HACKERS mean that there is normally no less than one in a game now. Even watch them killing each other still have no fun. -
Do people even realize their reporting haackers and cheaters is a futile attempt at keeping this game clean? Seriously so many times have I seen someone haack and be banned, but their back using the same haacks, hours later. Do I report haackers anymore? NO I don't it's just too much of a slap in the face when a haacker gets banned and poof they make another account, turn on their haacks again. And since there will never be a thing called ping limiting rooms or ip restrictions or entire country blocking, we will ALWAYS have an influx of haackers flowing in, using haacks to win, ect.
The MODS and GMS say ohh XTrap is great, it blocks stuff and makes blah blah blah go away... They also say they can't afford a better haack shield, well I see lots of people using zp items and characters, ect. So sales must not be that bad. Could always remove surveys completely to squeeze more money out of people.
But this is a useless thread to make, since all these problematic things will be excused away by the upper ups, with the usual "Were working on it" "We are aware of the current situation" "XTrap and the DEVS are working hard to figure it out" "Haacks are not easily removed" Or they will just close and remove threads like these, give infractions to those who speak the cold and solid truth about how awful this game's protectors are, and give temp bans to those who won't just be quiet.
I really wish they would put in some kind of restrictions for high pingers or certain countries like brazil, turkey, and egypt but that won't happen since if those three countries were to be blocked, the people in the haack department would be out of a job, because the haack rate would plumet down to nothing, and zp sales would go down as well.
Oh well, I will clap my wee lil hands at their "attempt" at fixing such a slime filled pustual of a game.
I am kinds agree with you. But imagine those staff reviews the replay all day, is this job easily get bored?
When you have to do something boring job, with no end, and still get complain, would you be happy?
When you are not happy, would you consider to increase the efficiency?
IT TURNS OUT IT IS A DEAD LOOP. They get bored, complained, frustrated, and start to hate it, so it get done slower. Then they get more bored, complained and frustrated.
ALSO, the review system is slow in nature. Even if a reviewer has cleared his work load, a new report has to be made after a ruined game, reviewer might can start to look at it the second in work time.
The auto ban system sounds good, but the detection algorithm has to make sure a legit player would not get banned (this is more harmful than a hacker is not banned). So probably this determines that the detection rate would be low. Also, the system has to be on server, otherwise, it is another xtrap that can be bypassed. This makes the algorithm can not be complex, otherwise every get rage about the ping issue because server has to do calculate almost every bullets. Therefore, I would conclude in the near future, the autoban system would not be what we can depend on.
THE TREND IS, LOCK YOUR ROOM AND INVITE OTHERS TO JOIN. As you can see, the open room is less and less. Problem is, because the new player would not accept an invitation, and in open room there is no way for them to fight hacker (they might even don't know how to vote), they will soon build an impression that this game sucks and full of hackers (e.g. go to www.mmohut.com and read the comments of players). Finally, we find ourself is locked, caged, like some artworks that are easily to be broken. While hackers happen running in the open world, ruin new comers' experience and expel them to other free or paid games.
I NOTICE THAT THE AVERAGE USER REVIEW POINT OF CF HAS DROP FROM 4.01 to 3.96 in one years' time. When cf attract so many cs fan, while some other company (even smile gates) are releasing similar games, the new candy feature added in the game can not really save it. -
I am kinds agree with you. But imagine those staff reviews the replay all day, is this job easily get bored?
When you have to do something boring job, with no end, and still get complain, would you be happy?
When you are not happy, would you consider to increase the efficiency?
IT TURNS OUT IT IS A DEAD LOOP. They get bored, complained, frustrated, and start to hate it, so it get done slower. Then they get more bored, complained and frustrated.
ALSO, the review system is slow in nature. Even if a reviewer has cleared his work load, a new report has to be made after a ruined game, reviewer might can start to look at it the second in work time.
The auto ban system sounds good, but the detection algorithm has to make sure a legit player would not get banned (this is more harmful than a hacker is not banned). So probably this determines that the detection rate would be low. Also, the system has to be on server, otherwise, it is another xtrap that can be bypassed. This makes the algorithm can not be complex, otherwise every get rage about the ping issue because server has to do calculate almost every bullets. Therefore, I would conclude in the near future, the autoban system would not be what we can depend on.
THE TREND IS, LOCK YOUR ROOM AND INVITE OTHERS TO JOIN. As you can see, the open room is less and less. Problem is, because the new player would not accept an invitation, and in open room there is no way for them to fight hacker (they might even don't know how to vote), they will soon build an impression that this game sucks and full of hackers (e.g. go to www.mmohut.com and read the comments of players). Finally, we find ourself is locked, caged, like some artworks that are easily to be broken. While hackers happen running in the open world, ruin new comers' experience and expel them to other free or paid games.
Got any friends that play ghost mode religiously and would care to add me in-game so I can have some good games to play, with legit players? My IGN is the same as my forum name. -
Got any friends that play ghost mode religiously and would care to add me in-game so I can have some good games to play, with legit players? My IGN is the same as my forum name.
Sorry, I hate ghost mode (I think I never kill one in that mode yet and only accidentally join that game when want to play clan mates or be invited), hero mode, zombie mode. I even hate the TDM in space station, where player flying around.
But I think it would be nice if we can exchange friend list. Most of the friends of mine are legit. Some are added upon request. If we can make a rule that right after a game play together, two can add each as friends, that would be nice. But right now, I trusted my friends to be legit. However, they might not like ghost mode either. -
Sorry, I hate ghost mode (I think I never kill one in that mode yet and only accidentally join that game when want to play clan mates or be invited), hero mode, zombie mode. I even hate the TDM in space station, where player flying around.
But I think it would be nice if we can exchange friend list. Most of the friends of mine are legit. Some are added upon request. If we can make a rule that right after a game play together, two can add each as friends, that would be nice. But right now, I trusted my friends to be legit. However, they might not like ghost mode either.
I'm going to log on real quick and see if you will add me, I will be playing soon after, I just need to run to the post office and get a stamp. -
I'm going to log on real quick and see if you will add me, I will be playing soon after, I just need to run to the post office and get a stamp.
I normally play at night. I will login at about 10. I will check if you are around.
I think we should have a system that can add a friend in game through forum. Maybe some MoD or GM can give an answer. If we don't have one, I would really want one.
My dream is someday I can join the passworded room without searching for password. -
HahaI finally got my first time in 2 weeks to play CF...
OH...MY...FACKING...GAWD.
Not a SINGLE ROOM without a hacker...and this was during the hours when most NA players are in school or heading of to work (I don't have a job yet, and I have college classes 3x a week in the evenings 5PM - 10PM). This caries on WELL through the day until around 10:00PM-ish
They kicked ME for having a low ping faster then they kicked the ass-twit sliding around shooting people through walls...
Hahaha! Omg xD! Thats true they sometimes dont kick the hacker
they kick the pro(if they are noobs)!
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