Don't believe TripleThreatReviews
As some of you may remember, in the past I made a "Don't believe FinalShotReviews" thread. In there I showed how FinalShotReviews was biased, egotistical and as ignorant as they come. See it here:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=178332
Now unfortunately I have to share my experience with TripleThreatReviews, as I no longer respect them.
If you've watched TripleThreatReviews, you'll know that in almost every one of their videos they talk about how they love the community and everything they do is for the community.
I've been shown the opposite.
TripleThreatReviews leader Stratz- (I think that's his ign) and I have been PMing back and forth for awhile, and I've learned some... interesting things about him.
He thinks that damages per bullet change depending on your ping, when in reality, they don't. Here's a quote from him that proves he thinks like that:
"The damages aren't all going to be exact do to the fact that people find damages in different ways and because people's location changes everything. 1 person could live in canada and the other person in the united states. Your damages would be different due to the fact that your reg system would change because of the ping differences. "
and
"I promise you that locations does change your damages. Its like saying your gonna do the exact same damages on a BR than a guy that lives right next to you"
So I'm not sure how anyone can trust a reviewer that doesn't know the basics of how the game works.
He had offered me a "job" if you can call it that to work with him for TTR (TripleThreatReviews) November 27th 2011, however I told him I would only do so if he used my stats in any new reviews and updated his old ones with my stats, which are the closest thing to perfection that we have stats-wise. He then said (among other things):
"Well... I dont really want a guy whos 1 minded and won't be open minded. I understand that you think all of your stats are right and thats the only thing you care about, but thats not how i got my subscribers and thats now how i roll."
So basically he doesn't care about getting the stats right. Great reviewer.
A couple months later I challenged him to a 1v1 which we could both fraps and post on youtube for the community. Unfortunately there's something wrong with his mouse and computer right now so he couldn't which I understand.
After the challenge, I did the same thing that I had done with FinalShotReviews. I watched a few videos by TripleThreatReviews, and where he had made mistakes I commented on them and corrected him so that the community wasn't lied to, and didn't accidentally buy guns and then be dissapointed by them.
He then deleted my comments, instead of leaving them for the community to see. He's trying to keep the community in the dark so he can keep feeding them lies while he does a half-assed job at reviewing guns.
After he deleted my comments, this was the series of messages sent. Yellow is me, red is him.
"lol umad? Started to bash on my videos. K. immature and 1 minded again. Btw, those are the max. Meaning you can't go over it. Derp. Trolling."
"I wasn't bashing, I was trying to enlighten the community. I did the same thing with FinalShot reviews, and they also took it personally. When people watch your videos they expect to be told the truth, not lies. When you deleted the comments on your videos which had the true statistics in them, you denied the community of the truth and you kept them in the dark. I gave you the option to use my statistics for whatever you want as long as you give me credit, however you refused to accept my offer, meaning I have to do everything I can for the good of the community.
If somebody had the correct statistics and posted on my videos with them, I would be happy, as then I would know I did something wrong and try to improve the quality of my reviews.
By deleting my comments, you proved to me and everyone else that you don't care about the community, you just care about yourself."
"Dude you went off making a forums bashing on FSR. You think your right 100% of the time. But your not. Nobody is. 1 minded. I care about the community. If i didn't then i wouldnt be make reviews, wouldn't have made a clan, wouldn't donate money to charity, etc. Your telling everyone that "omg you guys, they're all wrong. I'm right. I'm the nerd of cf. Listen to me!" Derp, unbelievable.
I'm also obviously known in the community and I'm doing something right because we're 1 of the top 3 biggest review groups in cf. And also we were 1 of the fastest growing review groups while FSR and missiontopwn were ahead of us.
Respect will get you far in the business that we do. If you know that other people don't like you or don't want you commenting on there videos. Then don't. Stop bashing and telling everyone's wrong. If you think your right, then focus on your videos. You don't need to always go "correcting" people."
I got that^ last message right before I made this thread.
He wants me to stop correcting other reviewers? Well I'm simply trying to inform the community and prevent them from being mislead. Should I just give up on that? Just mind my own business while other reviewers lie? Then how would the community know who was right? idk.
I'll keep making reviews and spreading truth, no matter what.
TL;DR?
Well then basically this: Don't trust any stats that TripleThreatReviews gives in their reviews, as they're most likely wrong. Just like FinalShotReviews, if you're going to watch them, do it for the entertainment, not the information.
PS. I also watched some of Guidenable's reviews, some of his stats are wrong as well and I commented on a few of his videos correcting him, however I haven't gotten a reply to them yet. He seems to be more reasonable from my experiences with him, so I'm waiting to see how that goes. Just watch guidenable for the entertainment as well, however from what I've seen you're better off trusting Guidenable's stats than TTR's.
PPS. I would watch MissionToPwn's reviews to check, but his voice aggravates me lol xD (also he doesn't make reviews anymore).
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=178332
Now unfortunately I have to share my experience with TripleThreatReviews, as I no longer respect them.
If you've watched TripleThreatReviews, you'll know that in almost every one of their videos they talk about how they love the community and everything they do is for the community.
I've been shown the opposite.
TripleThreatReviews leader Stratz- (I think that's his ign) and I have been PMing back and forth for awhile, and I've learned some... interesting things about him.
He thinks that damages per bullet change depending on your ping, when in reality, they don't. Here's a quote from him that proves he thinks like that:
"The damages aren't all going to be exact do to the fact that people find damages in different ways and because people's location changes everything. 1 person could live in canada and the other person in the united states. Your damages would be different due to the fact that your reg system would change because of the ping differences. "
and
"I promise you that locations does change your damages. Its like saying your gonna do the exact same damages on a BR than a guy that lives right next to you"
So I'm not sure how anyone can trust a reviewer that doesn't know the basics of how the game works.
He had offered me a "job" if you can call it that to work with him for TTR (TripleThreatReviews) November 27th 2011, however I told him I would only do so if he used my stats in any new reviews and updated his old ones with my stats, which are the closest thing to perfection that we have stats-wise. He then said (among other things):
"Well... I dont really want a guy whos 1 minded and won't be open minded. I understand that you think all of your stats are right and thats the only thing you care about, but thats not how i got my subscribers and thats now how i roll."
So basically he doesn't care about getting the stats right. Great reviewer.
A couple months later I challenged him to a 1v1 which we could both fraps and post on youtube for the community. Unfortunately there's something wrong with his mouse and computer right now so he couldn't which I understand.
After the challenge, I did the same thing that I had done with FinalShotReviews. I watched a few videos by TripleThreatReviews, and where he had made mistakes I commented on them and corrected him so that the community wasn't lied to, and didn't accidentally buy guns and then be dissapointed by them.
He then deleted my comments, instead of leaving them for the community to see. He's trying to keep the community in the dark so he can keep feeding them lies while he does a half-assed job at reviewing guns.
After he deleted my comments, this was the series of messages sent. Yellow is me, red is him.
"lol umad? Started to bash on my videos. K. immature and 1 minded again. Btw, those are the max. Meaning you can't go over it. Derp. Trolling."
"I wasn't bashing, I was trying to enlighten the community. I did the same thing with FinalShot reviews, and they also took it personally. When people watch your videos they expect to be told the truth, not lies. When you deleted the comments on your videos which had the true statistics in them, you denied the community of the truth and you kept them in the dark. I gave you the option to use my statistics for whatever you want as long as you give me credit, however you refused to accept my offer, meaning I have to do everything I can for the good of the community.
If somebody had the correct statistics and posted on my videos with them, I would be happy, as then I would know I did something wrong and try to improve the quality of my reviews.
By deleting my comments, you proved to me and everyone else that you don't care about the community, you just care about yourself."
"Dude you went off making a forums bashing on FSR. You think your right 100% of the time. But your not. Nobody is. 1 minded. I care about the community. If i didn't then i wouldnt be make reviews, wouldn't have made a clan, wouldn't donate money to charity, etc. Your telling everyone that "omg you guys, they're all wrong. I'm right. I'm the nerd of cf. Listen to me!" Derp, unbelievable.
I'm also obviously known in the community and I'm doing something right because we're 1 of the top 3 biggest review groups in cf. And also we were 1 of the fastest growing review groups while FSR and missiontopwn were ahead of us.
Respect will get you far in the business that we do. If you know that other people don't like you or don't want you commenting on there videos. Then don't. Stop bashing and telling everyone's wrong. If you think your right, then focus on your videos. You don't need to always go "correcting" people."
I got that^ last message right before I made this thread.
He wants me to stop correcting other reviewers? Well I'm simply trying to inform the community and prevent them from being mislead. Should I just give up on that? Just mind my own business while other reviewers lie? Then how would the community know who was right? idk.
I'll keep making reviews and spreading truth, no matter what.
TL;DR?
Well then basically this: Don't trust any stats that TripleThreatReviews gives in their reviews, as they're most likely wrong. Just like FinalShotReviews, if you're going to watch them, do it for the entertainment, not the information.
PS. I also watched some of Guidenable's reviews, some of his stats are wrong as well and I commented on a few of his videos correcting him, however I haven't gotten a reply to them yet. He seems to be more reasonable from my experiences with him, so I'm waiting to see how that goes. Just watch guidenable for the entertainment as well, however from what I've seen you're better off trusting Guidenable's stats than TTR's.
PPS. I would watch MissionToPwn's reviews to check, but his voice aggravates me lol xD (also he doesn't make reviews anymore).
Comments
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thisgameowns wrote: »inb4close I think, because the MODS will close it and suspect that a flame war will start.
The one about FinalShotReviews wasn't closed, no reason this one should be. They both present valid points.
If you're not contributing, no point writing /inb4close. If this somehow deserves to be closed then they'll do it. -
Tl:dr
I believe what he was trying to say you put more bullets into a BR to kill them than what you would compared to someone sitting next to you. Reason being like he said because of the ping. BR's ping is high meaning not all the bullets that "hit" register, where as if your playing with someone right next to you all the bullets that hit should register. Meaning your bullets do more damage to someone next you because they have a better connection with you and the same ping. -
Tl:dr
I believe what he was trying to say you put more bullets into a BR to kill them than what you would compared to someone sitting next to you. Reason being like he said because of the ping. BR's ping is high meaning not all the bullets that "hit" register, where as if your playing with someone right next to you all the bullets that hit should register. Meaning your bullets do more damage to someone next you because they have a better connection with you and the same ping.
I PMed him the following after his second reply about this:
"Your location (and ping) do not change how much damage a weapon does, they simply change how fast a bullet registers."
He still wouldn't listen.
I know he was talking about per bullet btw, because that's what we put on our reviews; the damage per bullet. -
Just checked his colt review thread in the guides.
There are no comments on it and the video he linked has been removed for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQNiC-Rop-M&feature=channel_video_title
Work fine for me
Unless you were talking about the pistol -
Then it take it back, God'sGodsGunman wrote: »The one about FinalShotReviews wasn't closed, no reason this one should be. They both present valid points.
If you're not contributing, no point writing /inb4close. If this somehow deserves to be closed then they'll do it.
You had my opinion in my PM to you.
EDIT:
Please don't post unless you have anything constructive/on-topic to say. Thank you.TUEWKIU254 wrote: »Too desperate to get a real job so you've decided to pandered to z8, just like the rest of these hypocrites and hopefully one day, to become a mod and get free guns?
your definitely not the first. -
Mods get free guns? I thought they were only a volunteer force that was given special permissions to moderate the forums and keep them tidy well helping others with problems.
Never heard about them getting paid in anyway.
To desperate to get a job? Where you basing this from?
Did someone ask you to troll or are you just a natural at it?
quoted "REAL"
nvm
Crappy game, Pandering hypocrites surrounding the community
I'm done with this thread. -
Stratz says that his group is for the community yet when i first started reviewing and posted the link to it on the forums he said "TTR is the best and only review group" or something like that. Basically saying yeah we're more popular than you so you can just fu.ck off. i completly agree with you gods. TTR and FSR are for entertainment more than they are for statistics, as are mine as i only give a rough estimate of the statistics on weapons.
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Mods get free guns? I thought they were only a volunteer force that was given special permissions to moderate the forums and keep them tidy well helping others with problems.
Never heard about them getting paid in anyway.
To desperate to get a job? Where you basing this from?
Did someone ask you to troll or are you just a natural at it?
they do get paid with z8 points. -
TUEWKIU254 wrote: »quoted "REAL"
nvm
Crappy game, Pandering hypocrites surrounding the community
I'm done with this thread.
Show proof of hypocrisy before accusing it.
You use the word like a common insult as if you don't even know the meaning.
And thank you for leaving, the forums and game are better with out you! -
Stratz says that his group is for the community yet when i first started reviewing and posted the link to it on the forums he said "TTR is the best and only review group" or something like that. Basically saying yeah we're more popular than you so you can just fu.ck off. i completly agree with you gods. TTR and FSR are for entertainment more than they are for statistics, as are mine as i only give a rough estimate of the statistics on weapons.
I'm scared to post my opinion in public in fear of StratZ- flaming/trolling me, but you can guess my opinion too. -
I don't understand, why are you trying to stop people from getting subscribers and such, just keep your information to yourself, don't like them? Don't watch them. I'm thinking your trying to get your channel famous by making those threads? I can't see where your getting from there.
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Asking a mod to confirm if its true or not. First time I'm hearing about it.Not_important wrote: »they do get paid with z8 points.
Anyways back on topic.
Found a few incorrect details in the colt review.
Says the max damage to the back or chest is 37, I've never done more then 33 at a time with mine. No idea how he test the damage to get that. Says legs do 23, only done 20 for legs with mine. Says reload is 2.19 seconds, that way faster then mines reloads. Gods guide says 3.8 which feels more accurate then 2.19 on reload.
I think he is basing is testing by just picking up the gun and using it pubs. -
Asking a mod to confirm if its true or not. First time I'm hearing about it.
Anyways back on topic.
Found a few incorrect details in the colt review.
Says the max damage to the back or chest is 37, I've never done more then 33 at a time with mine. No idea how he test the damage to get that. Says legs do 23, only done 20 for legs with mine. Says reload is 2.19 seconds, that way faster then mines reloads. Gods guide says 3.8 which feels more accurate then 2.19 on reload.
I think he is basing is testing by just picking up the gun and using it pubs.
^Exactly . -
I don't understand, why are you trying to stop people from getting subscribers and such, just keep your information to yourself, don't like them? Don't watch them. I'm thinking your trying to get your channel famous by making those threads? I can't see where your getting from there.
- a) He's not trying to stop TripleThreatReviews and FinalShotReviews (and Guidenable or Missiontopwn) from getting subscribers
- b) He can freely spread his information, because his is the most accurate from anybody's out there
- c) People have their own free will, so please don not tell them what they can and cannot do.
- d) God's doesn't have to make his channel famous. It's 1) already famous enough and 2)he's not being desperate and telling people to check out his channel
- e) He's trying to prove a point and spread it to the community
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thisgameowns wrote: »
- a) He's not trying to stop TripleThreatReviews and FinalShotReviews (and Guidenable or Missiontopwn) from getting subscribers
- b) He can freely spread his information, because his is the most accurate from anybody's out there
- c) People have their own free will, so please don not tell them what they can and cannot do.
- d) God's doesn't have to make his channel famous. It's 1) already famous enough and 2)he's not being desperate and telling people to check out his channel
- e) He's trying to prove a point and spread it to the community
Well said lawlz and Yh TTR doesn't sound very accurte compare to Gods...and all those other kids that don't have anything productive to say please keep it to urself, he didn't make this thread so u can start a troll party -
Well said lawlz and Yh TTR doesn't sound very accurte compare to Gods...and all those other kids that don't have anything productive to say please keep it to urself, he didn't make this thread so u can start a troll party
I even took the time to look at Hi's Ultimate Forumer's Guide to figure out how to make a list (not sure if taken from Rex's post) to try to sum the point up. -
thisgameowns wrote: »Well said lawlz and Yh TTR doesn't sound very accurte compare to Gods...and all those other kids that don't have anything productive to say please keep it to urself, he didn't make this thread so u can start a troll party
I even took the time to look at Hi's Ultimate Forumer's Guide to figure out how to make a list (not sure if taken from Rex's post) to try to sum the point up.
How is tgo's post not productive? Just curious.
OT: personally, stats are meaningless in the full bloodlust of a pub battle for 12 minutes :rolleyes: -
iSheepGamer wrote: »God you know your just gonna get more trolled and more trolled. Just stop making vids and stop bashing on ttr and fsr.. Whats next? MTP?
Um, MODs, couly you please stop these people from trolling/flaming the thread and posting off-topic thoughts? (I know you will, but I just want to honestly hear the reactions to this thread)
Please.
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OT: personally, stats are meaningless in the full bloodlust of a pub battle for 12 minutes :rolleyes:
They may be meaningless to you, however there are some people (especially those that play competeitively), who care a lot about small differences in guns. -
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Asking a mod to confirm if its true or not. First time I'm hearing about it.
Read Saidin's post about Mod "payment".No. You are not.
Moderators is a volunteer position. One that they do an incredible job at. Mods are asked to join this volunteer position under the impression that they will get nothing but our respect and adoration for helping us grow the game, helping users, being active and putting themselves in a position to be a representative of you to us.
Our moderators take their positions seriously. But they are also just plain fans of the game and our community. They want to see growth and positive direction for the game as much as we do. And in that way they also support us by playing the game, and in this particular case maybe even getting crates to win an item!
That being said, we love the job the mods do so much that we try to give them some rewards when we can. These types of rewards can be anything from points, to items to just plain thank-you's for being so awesome.
However, you'll note that at any given time when a reward is handed out YOU (as a regular user) has no idea when, or why or how a reward to the moderators is given.
In short, what we do for the mods is between us and them. And not your position to assume what when where or why.
It should also be noted that Greycloak still remains in communication with a few of us as some of his technical help has been valuable to us. Greycloak leads a busy life and had to specifically step away from his mod duties, but that has not stopped us from allowing him to be a part of the mod clan within the game. Greycloak hasn't had much time for the game anyways, and consults more as communication with a few of us rather than specifically 'playing' the game.
As for your other mods who you are attempting to sleuth out. As mentioned, what we reward mods with is between us and them and frankly shouldn't be any of your business. Not to mention some players weren't even mods at the relevant times in the first place!
http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=2706468&postcount=5
As to OP; I suggest before you call anyone out, you present evidence. Anyone can write text and say someone else said it. I could say I've whispered you and you said you recently got cheats off of a well known hack site, that doesn't mean you have.
Since you like to review guns as well, and you've now called out two big reviewers. If you want to prove anything, you need something to prove with. Writing up a big article saying someone did something with nothing to back it up, just makes any thoughtful person skeptical of what you're saying. Especially with some of your posts background being as... rude as they have been... is the nice way to put it.
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