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ExeuntOmnes wrote: »Maybe your brain isn't capable to understand what your fingers are typing. You don't know where I am from, yet you say this game wasn't made for me. It really means that I shouldn't play this game, showing that, not only you're stupid, but you're a stupid ex-Moderator too. Also as a little help for an ex-MOD to understand what others are typing, my so called "complaint" wasn't against the game itself, it was against another MOD who doesn't even know the terms and conditions, yet he is stating disrespectful words that do harm to the community and to the regular player who is spending real money on this game.
The outcomes:
1. You were NOT, and you are NOT in any position to comment on what kind of players this game was made for.
2. As an ex-MOD, and since you already stated that you are an adult, you should really know how to use ' , as "shouldn't", or "wasn't", or else people might start thinking you're stupid.
I wasnt speaking to you in the first place. I was saying it in a general manner for all those reading it. I dont particularly care where youre from.... but for curiosities sake.. where ARE you from?
This version of the game was made and supported for The United States of America, Canada and the United Kingdom. Essentially for English speaking users.
Assuming youre from none of those areas, this mean that the game was NOT meant for you. You are able to play it, but playing it does not give you any right or demand over the game. I wouldnt go to the Chinese version and demand support for my country.
Youve mentioned several times that Im stupid yet you havent actually stated why.
Im aware your "complaint" was aimed at dot and not the game but that still doesnt mean you werent bashing the game aswell. Sorry if I didnt state what I was saying clearly.
Where did Dot state the Terms and Conditions? He merely said that people outside of the zones the game is provided for should not complain and feel lucky theyre willing enough to not restrict all IP's outside the zones theyre licensed for. Other versions HAVE done that. This one hasnt to an extent only because the block IP's have a localized version of their own.
Thats your own problem. Complain about the harmful things he said... which is ironic because what he said wasnt racist, harmful or untrue in any way. He probably shouldnt have said them but if you felt insulted in any way.. then the best idea is to complain about that to a GM... not what you started waffling on about.
1. Yes I am. You cant stop me. My information is correct. Im not misleading anyone. Why shouldnt I say that this group of people have more rights over something than this group because theyre not from here and theres nothing here that supports them. This is the internet gaming industry. This isnt real life. This happens. NA, CA and UK players have more right to complain or demand than other players do.
2. Are you being serious about that? Talk about nit picking. -
You don't have to play the game. I didn't mention honor, nor glory, nor pride.
It doesn't say so in the terms and conditions, its how it is.
Playing this game is not a right, its not a requirement, its a conscious choice - a privilege.
If you want to use it, so be it. If you don't, that is also your privilege.
Stop crying about cheaters, this thread is not about cheaters.
Your terrible attitude is irrelevant.
Stick to the facts of the thread or avoid the threada all together.
And since I actually can see where you're from - no, this version wasn't made for you.
Your country is the same as African nations - you're allowed to play.
Exactly like my country mind you.
You know exactly what I meant and you know exactly how much of an idiot your remark made you look like, you just covered it up in a fancy official way. Are you so stupid that you actually have the nerve to tell me "this version wasn't made for you" just because you saw my Romanian IP and in a pure racist manner you associated my country with an entire continent 7000 miles away from me? Buying ZP is a major part of keeping this "not meant for me" game running along, idiot. Even more, you have the nerve to admit that "it wasn't meant for you" is NOT part of ANY terms and conditions that I agreed on when I downloaded the game, yet you are making me look like an outcast who is "allowed" to play just as a slave in here, or as a privilege while paying with real money for the game? Do you even have any idea how did I came across CF NA, ret.a.rd? I saw the ad banner on yahoo.us. That's right, US, not yahoo.ro, idiot, it is pure advertising, and you as a forum MOD, have no right to tell ANYONE what specific race or country is allowed or welcome to play here.
I wasn't crying about cheaters in this thread, moron. I was taking attitude against an idiot racist forum moderator like you. -
Actually, I can be very specific in my saying who is and who isn't allowed to play here - theres even a map, although its kinda big so I won't include it.
I also realize that me being Swedish and having played this game for a couple of years, grants me the privilege to play this game.
G4Box could have easily restricted my access to this game if the owners so chose, since they do not own the license to publish in my country.
Its not my right to play this game, its a privilege which they can revoke and I'd have to deal with it, which very well could happen with the change of a line in a contract.
I don't expect any rights because I buy lots of ZP - I receive the ZP, that is my right inferred by the ZP purchase.
Paying money doesn't grant me anything besides that.
"the "privilege" to be farmed by wallers?" and "and honor we should have while playing a hacked game" strikes me as crying about cheaters, at least thats how I would phrase it if I ever sunk to the level of crying about cheaters.
I'm sure you meant something else though, in all of your statements, because as you (I hope) can clearly see; Everything I've said in this thread applies to me too.
It doesn't require racism, just realism. -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »You know exactly what I meant and you know exactly how much of an idiot your remark made you look like, you just covered it up in a fancy official way. Are you so stupid that you actually have the nerve to tell me "this version wasn't made for you" just because you saw my Romanian IP and in a pure racist manner you associated my country with an entire continent 7000 miles away from me? Buying ZP is a major part of keeping this "not meant for me" game running along, idiot. Even more, you have the nerve to admit that "it wasn't meant for you" is NOT part of ANY terms and conditions that I agreed on when I downloaded the game, yet you are making me look like an outcast who is "allowed" to play just as a slave in here, or as a privilege while paying with real money for the game? Do you even have any idea how did I came across CF NA, ret.a.rd? I saw the ad banner on yahoo.us. That's right, US, not yahoo.ro, idiot, it is pure advertising, and you as a forum MOD, have no right to tell ANYONE what specific race or country is allowed or welcome to play here.
I wasn't crying about cheaters in this thread, moron. I was taking attitude against an idiot racist forum moderator like you.
Do you not realise how stupid you look? Ive shown this thread to about 12 people and theyve all called you a moron.
He didnt compare you to the nation. He compared you to the stance both nations have in the game. Simply, that this isnt made for you.
Of course ZP is a major part and G4Box are greatly appreciative of your support... but that doesnt give you any rights to the game in the slightest.... you pay for ZP... not the game.
Its not going to say in the ToS "IF YOU ARENT FROM THESE 3 COUNTRIES, THEN YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PLAY THIS GAME BUT YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO"
Its implied! You dont go to CF China and complain when they dont support your country in things like servers, surveys or language or anything else for that matter. Youre not even supposed to be here.
Go play EU where it WAS made for you.
Nowhere did he mention of imply slave.
EXACTLY you JUST proved our points. You found a US GAME on a US WEBSITE.
Who the hell is mentioning races here? Only you. Dot didnt. I didnt.
Yes you did.. you mentioned cheaters several times. -
Giggletron wrote: »I wasnt speaking to you in the first place. I was saying it in a general manner for all those reading it. I dont particularly care where youre from.... but for curiosities sake.. where ARE you from?
This version of the game was made and supported for The United States of America, Canada and the United Kingdom. Essentially for English speaking users.
Assuming youre from none of those areas, this mean that the game was NOT meant for you. You are able to play it, but playing it does not give you any right or demand over the game. I wouldnt go to the Chinese version and demand support for my country.
Youve mentioned several times that Im stupid yet you havent actually stated why.
Im aware your "complaint" was aimed at dot and not the game but that still doesnt mean you werent bashing the game aswell. Sorry if I didnt state what I was saying clearly.
Where did Dot state the Terms and Conditions? He merely said that people outside of the zones the game is provided for should not complain and feel lucky theyre willing enough to not restrict all IP's outside the zones theyre licensed for. Other versions HAVE done that. This one hasnt to an extent only because the block IP's have a localized version of their own.
Thats your own problem. Complain about the harmful things he said... which is ironic because what he said wasnt racist, harmful or untrue in any way. He probably shouldnt have said them but if you felt insulted in any way.. then the best idea is to complain about that to a GM... not what you started waffling on about.
1. Yes I am. You cant stop me. My information is correct. Im not misleading anyone. Why shouldnt I say that this group of people have more rights over something than this group because theyre not from here and theres nothing here that supports them. This is the internet gaming industry. This isnt real life. This happens. NA, CA and UK players have more right to complain or demand than other players do.
2. Are you being serious about that? Talk about nit picking.
NO, this version of CF wasn't supported only for US, Canadian and UK players, it was advertised all over the world. I am generally speaking English very good, don't you think? What [MOD]Dot merely said was racist and you supported that, both you and the other idiot specifically said that you are not allowed to complain if you play this version of CF from outside US, Canada or UK, which makes you both ret.ar.ded racists. As long as I play here, I am allowed to comment any attitudes that I feel to be against my culture and my country of origin, especially since I'm paying for this game. -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »NO, this version of CF wasn't supported only for US, Canadian and UK players, it was advertised all over the world. I am generally speaking English very good, don't you think? What [MOD]Dot merely said was racist and you supported that, both you and the other idiot specifically said that you are not allowed to complain if you play this version of CF from outside US, Canada or UK, which makes you both ret.ar.ded racists. As long as I play here, I am allowed to comment any attitudes that I feel to be against my culture and my country of origin, especially since I'm paying for this game.
Yes it was.
"Cross Fire, a military online shooter game for the PC, will be released by G4BOX INC. in Fall 2008 to North America and UK."
Source: http://www.g4box.com/products.asp#crossfire (The publishing companies website)
There you go good sir.
Yes you are. Im pretty impressed with your english. Does that give you a right to the game?
No he didnt. It wasnt racist in the slightest. You turned it racist by mentioning it somehow.
Being Romanian isnt a race. Its a nationality.
Youre not. Well you can. But noone will listen to you and youll just be flogging a dead horse for all the good it will do.
Youre paying for ZP. Not the game. Thats been mentioned at least 3 times now and youre still not listening. I dont walk into a shop and buy a drink... then think I have some rights over the shop itself.
Again.. thats your own problem... if you think hes specifically attacking a country... then tough.. because he isnt and thats you interpretation of it. -
This requires too many multiple quotes and I'm too tired of it:
If I buy a soda from a store and that soda turns out to be **** in a coke bottle, then YES, I am going to take it against the store owner/advertiser, ffs, how stupid are you?
For Dot: so you're from Sweden, i take. With your permission I would like to remind you that you are NOT the one to decide what countries were/are/will be able to play this version of CF. In fact, both Sweden and Romania have been restricted from creating new accounts. That was not your call. If I would hack and I would get banned, it would be impossible for me to make another account, same thing applies for your country too. When I called you both idiots I meant that you are ignorant enough not to see that I would be forever gone. Now if I don't hack, if I pay my dues to the game especially since the game DOES NOT require me to pay for it, are you both that ignorant to tell me that I have no right to complain or to have an opinion about the game on forum?
For fkin sake people, you show this stupid attitude and expect me not no have any arguments? -
Of course its not my decision, I don't work for G4box/Z8games or any subsidiary or associate.
You can have whichever opinion you like and object to whatever you like, you also enjoy the privilege of posting on the forum.
But its not your right to demand, as you/me/Giggletron are in no position to demand anything - its not our right to be given new stuff - its a right to post and ask for them as long as we enjoy the privilege of access to the forum.
Guess I forgot to mention it.
Everyone here knows what the region restriction means, not sure why you'd think we don't. -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »This requires too many multiple quotes and I'm too tired of it:
If I buy a soda from a store and that soda turns out to be **** in a coke bottle, then YES, I am going to take it against the store owner/advertiser, ffs, how stupid are you?
For Dot: so you're from Sweden, i take. With your permission I would like to remind you that you are NOT the one to decide what countries were/are/will be able to play this version of CF. In fact, both Sweden and Romania have been restricted from creating new accounts. That was not your call. If I would hack and I would get banned, it would be impossible for me to make another account, same thing applies for your country too. When I called you both idiots I meant that you are ignorant enough not to see that I would be forever gone. Now if I don't hack, if I pay my dues to the game especially since the game DOES NOT require me to pay for it, are you both that ignorant to tell me that I have no right to complain or to have an opinion about the game on forum?
For fkin sake people, you show this stupid attitude and expect me not no have any arguments?
Yes of course you are. But... youre only paying for zp.. if the ZP you paid for had a problem in any way, then you would complain.. correct. Where was our point going? Because it actually backed me up.
Dot doesnt have to be. Hes the messenger... He never claimed to make the rules... hes merely relaying them.
Yup. Because you dont. Im not sure why you dont understand what everyone is saying to you
If you dont cheat or do anything to get banned.. why are you bringing up the "I cant make a new account" argument. You wouldnt have to make a new account. -
Of course its not my decision, I don't work for G4box/Z8games or any subsidiary or associate.
You can have whichever opinion you like and object to whatever you like, you also enjoy the privilege of posting on the forum.
But its not your right to demand, as you/me/Giggletron are in no position to demand anything - its not our right to be given new stuff - its a right to post and ask for them as long as we enjoy the privilege of access to the forum.
Guess I forgot to mention it.
Everyone here knows what the region restriction means, not sure why you'd think we don't.
You edited that, and no, I don't demand anything. I started this conversation because of the word "privilege", why are you twisting my post and say "to be given new stuff"? Who asked Z8 for new stuff? Me? Please look back and mention it. Because it looks like I'm at fault now for demanding things I don't remember. Be honorable, not racist, since you already said I have the right to an opinion. -
Giggletron wrote: »If you dont cheat or do anything to get banned.. why are you bringing up the "I cant make a new account" argument. You wouldnt have to make a new account.
Because you are a racist idiot. The right terms are "don't" and "wouldn't". And no, I don't have to make a new account. You want prove of that? -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »Because you are a racist idiot. The right terms are "don't" and "wouldn't". And no, I don't have to make a new account. You want prove of that?
I said the right terms. Youre trying to tell an English person how to speak english?
I... know you dont have to make a new account. I never said you did
Can you show me something that I said was racist please? -
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It is a privilege for us as foreigners to be playing the game.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »You edited that, and no, I don't demand anything. I started this conversation because of the word "privilege", why are you twisting my post and say "to be given new stuff"? Who asked Z8 for new stuff? Me? Please look back and mention it. Because it looks like I'm at fault now for demanding things I don't remember. Be honorable, not racist, since you already said I have the right to an opinion.
How do you link that to racism? -
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ExeuntOmnes wrote: »Don't post if you have no idea what you're talking about, and stop these idiotic remarks about how much pride, glory and honor we should have while playing a hacked game. If this stupid comment would have came from a random player I would have ignored it, but since you're a MOD, you should think twice. Where exactly in the Terms and Conditions does it say that we are privileged/honored to play ANY games, not just this one? Next time you're going to ask us to bake a pie and serve it at your bed just because we had the "privilege" to be farmed by wallers?
From the start your attacking and acting aggressively.
Your also putting words into the mods mouth that he never said in his post.
Your acting on assumptions here.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »2 things to show you that you're stupid:
1. Who the hell are you to tell me what games should I play or not?
2. Where exactly am I complaining? I was addressing to a forum MOD, certainly not to you.
Troll somewhere else dumb kid, nobody asked you to post. If you don't like what you see, mind your business.
First, he said the game wasn't MADE FOR YOU and if you don't like it then leave.
He never said what games you can and can't play. Again you make a assumption and act on it. Second your calling him the Dumb Kid Troll but I see you as the one trolling here.
If your going to insult someone don't resemble your insult.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »Maybe your brain isn't capable to understand what your fingers are typing. You don't know where I am from, yet you say this game wasn't made for me. It really means that I shouldn't play this game, showing that, not only you're stupid, but you're a stupid ex-Moderator too. Also as a little help for an ex-MOD to understand what others are typing, my so called "complaint" wasn't against the game itself, it was against another MOD who doesn't even know the terms and conditions, yet he is stating disrespectful words that do harm to the community and to the regular player who is spending real money on this game.
The outcomes:
1. You were NOT, and you are NOT in any position to comment on what kind of players this game was made for.
2. As an ex-MOD, and since you already stated that you are an adult, you should really know how to use ' , as "shouldn't", or "wasn't", or else people might start thinking you're stupid.
The only one so far being disrespectful is you. Insulting others, refusing to listen, getting in a fight with a mod. Your calling the mod stupid but your actions are far from smart here.
And again you prove that this game isn't meant for you.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »You know exactly what I meant and you know exactly how much of an idiot your remark made you look like, you just covered it up in a fancy official way. Are you so stupid that you actually have the nerve to tell me "this version wasn't made for you" just because you saw my Romanian IP and in a pure racist manner you associated my country with an entire continent 7000 miles away from me? Buying ZP is a major part of keeping this "not meant for me" game running along, idiot. Even more, you have the nerve to admit that "it wasn't meant for you" is NOT part of ANY terms and conditions that I agreed on when I downloaded the game, yet you are making me look like an outcast who is "allowed" to play just as a slave in here, or as a privilege while paying with real money for the game? Do you even have any idea how did I came across CF NA, ret.a.rd? I saw the ad banner on yahoo.us. That's right, US, not yahoo.ro, idiot, it is pure advertising, and you as a forum MOD, have no right to tell ANYONE what specific race or country is allowed or welcome to play here.
I wasn't crying about cheaters in this thread, moron. I was taking attitude against an idiot racist forum moderator like you.
Here you SAY THAT YOU SAW THE GAME ON YAHOO.US!
yahoo.us is hosted in the, you guessed it, USA. Its main readers and users are from the USA. USA is NA, where the game is hosted. You saw a advertisement at a website made for USA, advertising a game in the NA, made for the NA and UK.
I'm surprised you haven't gotten it yet. Are you so dense that you refuse to follow the logic even when its you that is posting it?ExeuntOmnes wrote: »NO, this version of CF wasn't supported only for US, Canadian and UK players, it was advertised all over the world. I am generally speaking English very good, don't you think? What [MOD]Dot merely said was racist and you supported that, both you and the other idiot specifically said that you are not allowed to complain if you play this version of CF from outside US, Canada or UK, which makes you both ret.ar.ded racists. As long as I play here, I am allowed to comment any attitudes that I feel to be against my culture and my country of origin, especially since I'm paying for this game.
I have yet to see any racism from the others in this thread, all I'm seeing is a group of people trying to educate a troll. Plus this game doesn't require you to pay for it.
In fact if you READ the Terms of Agreement you'll see that when one is buying ZP they are in fact DONATING money to Z8 and Z8 rewards it with ZP. By having it classified as a donation you lose any claim to anything related to it.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »This requires too many multiple quotes and I'm too tired of it:
If I buy a soda from a store and that soda turns out to be **** in a coke bottle, then YES, I am going to take it against the store owner/advertiser, ffs, how stupid are you?
For Dot: so you're from Sweden, i take. With your permission I would like to remind you that you are NOT the one to decide what countries were/are/will be able to play this version of CF. In fact, both Sweden and Romania have been restricted from creating new accounts. That was not your call. If I would hack and I would get banned, it would be impossible for me to make another account, same thing applies for your country too. When I called you both idiots I meant that you are ignorant enough not to see that I would be forever gone. Now if I don't hack, if I pay my dues to the game especially since the game DOES NOT require me to pay for it, are you both that ignorant to tell me that I have no right to complain or to have an opinion about the game on forum?
For fkin sake people, you show this stupid attitude and expect me not no have any arguments?
Everyone has the right to complain, what your doing is mindlessly attacking people verbally.
Which is against the rules and I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet for it.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »You edited that, and no, I don't demand anything. I started this conversation because of the word "privilege", why are you twisting my post and say "to be given new stuff"? Who asked Z8 for new staff? Me? Please look back and mention it. Because it looks like I'm at fault now for demanding things I don't remember. Be honorable, not racist, since you already said I have the right to an opinion.
We don't need to twist your post, they alone as of now speak volumes about you. -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »Not so sure since the new improvement. At least idiots learn something.
What new improvement? I wouldnt suggest a person correct me on my native language when it isnt even your first language.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »I link it by the word "privilege". It means a lot of cruelty for decent/fair players around here. Learn more
Do you understand what the word "Privilege" means? -
No it doesn't.ExeuntOmnes wrote: »I link it by the word "privilege". It means a lot of cruelty for decent/fair players around here. Learn more
Privilege means "A peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor; a right or immunity not enjoyed by others or by all; special enjoyment of a good, or exemption from an evil or burden; a prerogative; advantage; franchise; preferential treatment. "
Whichever backdoor definition you're trying to enforce in a shameless attempt to call me racist, is wrong. -
No it doesn't.
Privilege means "A peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor; a right or immunity not enjoyed by others or by all; special enjoyment of a good, or exemption from an evil or burden; a prerogative; advantage; franchise; preferential treatment. "
Whichever backdoor definition you're trying to enforce in a shameless attempt to call me racist, is wrong.
Or in more general speaking.
Something that is given/granted to one that has either earned it or shows they can handle it and can be taken away when one shows that they don't deserve it. -
Here you SAY THAT YOU SAW THE GAME ON YAHOO.US!
yahoo.us is hosted in the, you guessed it, USA. Its main readers and users are from the USA. USA is NA, where the game is hosted. You saw a advertisement at a website made for USA, advertising a game in the NA, made for the NA and UK.
You guessed wrong, it's hosted in ANY COUNTRY THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, worldwide, that doesn't make it US/UK strictly, because that wouldn't be advertising anymore. Yahoo.us is NOT hosted in the United States only, it has contractual commitments into Europe too, learn better before you post, I thought you are smart.. -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »You guessed wrong, it's hosted in ANY COUNTRY THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, worldwide, that doesn't make it US/UK strictly, because that wouldn't be advertising anymore. Yahoo.us is NOT hosted in the United States only, it has contractual commitments into Europe too, learn better before you post, I thought you are smart..
Are you mentally challenged?
Advertisements on US websites are aimed at US people.
Much like a Romanian advertisement is aimed at Romanians.
Yahoo.com is American. (Yahoo.us doesnt exist)
Uk.yahoo.com is British.
Ro.yahoo.com is Romaian.
Getting it now? Theres a nice little add-on to google chrome and firefox to tell you the location of servers. Guess where the Yahoo.com is location? Guess where uk.yahoo.com is located. Guess where ro.yahoo.com is located. -
ExeuntOmnes wrote: »You guessed wrong, it's hosted in ANY COUNTRY THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, worldwide, that doesn't make it US/UK strictly, because that wouldn't be advertising anymore. Yahoo.us is NOT hosted in the United States only, it has contractual commitments into Europe too, learn better before you post, I thought you are smart..
You clearly do not understand the word "Hosted".
Hosted means where the server for the website or game is in the physical world.
Its called yahoo.us because the server for that yahoo version is in the USA.
I never said anything about restriction, your making assumptions again. -
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