Bonus for people switching to CF LA
First of all, I believe the South Americans will eventually switch servers it will just take some time.
This thing with them saying "I'm not switching servers unless you do some data migration" seems like they just want something extra for spending time and money on this version, which is understandable.
Perhaps do this, I'm not sure how good z8/g4box's record keeping is or how much effort they're willing to put in for this, but let's say each character that put zp into their account on this version can send a support ticket with their information and their in game name for CF LA. They should then get a percentage (let's say somewhere between a quarter to half) of the zp for free on their accounts that they specified in the support ticket.
As I said this will take some manpower for the guys at G4box, but it will make the switch to CF LA a lot smoother this way.
For those of you trying to suggest they keep track of every weapon you've ever owned on this version and then transfer it to your account on CF LA weapon by weapon as they're released there, that's simply not going to happen because that would take wayyyy too much time and manpower, and G4Box get absolutely nothing out of it.
@ the MODs: I realize this is a suggestion, but as you know the barracks are viewed a lot more then Suggestions. I tried posting this in the designated thread for posting anything related to CF LA releasing, however most of that thread is spam and I doubt my post got noticed. If you think this is a good idea and that Saidin hasn't thought of this give him a quick PM for me, then move it to suggestions if you feel that's a better place for this thread.
I'm simply trying to help in the most effective way possible.
This thing with them saying "I'm not switching servers unless you do some data migration" seems like they just want something extra for spending time and money on this version, which is understandable.
Perhaps do this, I'm not sure how good z8/g4box's record keeping is or how much effort they're willing to put in for this, but let's say each character that put zp into their account on this version can send a support ticket with their information and their in game name for CF LA. They should then get a percentage (let's say somewhere between a quarter to half) of the zp for free on their accounts that they specified in the support ticket.
As I said this will take some manpower for the guys at G4box, but it will make the switch to CF LA a lot smoother this way.
For those of you trying to suggest they keep track of every weapon you've ever owned on this version and then transfer it to your account on CF LA weapon by weapon as they're released there, that's simply not going to happen because that would take wayyyy too much time and manpower, and G4Box get absolutely nothing out of it.
@ the MODs: I realize this is a suggestion, but as you know the barracks are viewed a lot more then Suggestions. I tried posting this in the designated thread for posting anything related to CF LA releasing, however most of that thread is spam and I doubt my post got noticed. If you think this is a good idea and that Saidin hasn't thought of this give him a quick PM for me, then move it to suggestions if you feel that's a better place for this thread.
I'm simply trying to help in the most effective way possible.
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Have you ever coded? It's all stored in a database. With acsess to that changeing a simple Database entry(Ex: 1 means you have weapon, 0 means you don't). Really its easy. Simple drag and drop of a database file to update entrys. Only issue with it would be the conflicting ID numbers between the two games for the User ID. As well as if the number representing each gun is the same between the two databases.GodsGunman wrote: »For those of you trying to suggest they keep track of every weapon you've ever owned on this version and then transfer it to your account on CF LA weapon by weapon as they're released there, that's simply not going to happen because that would take wayyyy too much time and manpower, and G4Box get absolutely nothing out of it.
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Personally I think that they should just be happy with what they're getting and avoid asking too much. If what you said happened, then they would be forced to do the same for the EU version and all other versions. Otherwise it would be very unfair on people who moved to other versions after having spent a bit on this game.
Then again what if people did surveys and won weapons, I've won 2 Crate weapons using around 20K ZP. I doubt 10K ZP (or 5K) would keep me happy. -
CrackinDomes wrote: »Have you ever coded? It's all stored in a database. With acsess to that changeing a simple Database entry(Ex: 1 means you have weapon, 0 means you don't). Really its easy. Simple drag and drop of a database file to update entrys. Only issue with it would be the conflicting ID numbers between the two games for the User ID. As well as if the number representing each gun is the same between the two databases.
I've coded plenty of times, in fact I'm writing this in an SQL class.
The problem is they might not keep track of things properly. For example, you'd think "just write a simple search query to see if a weapon has been nerfed/boosted", but in reality they didn't keep any stats about what was added into the game or when until early 2010 or late 2009, which makes me uncertain about how they keep records.KingstarKB wrote: »Personally I think that they should just be happy with what they're getting and avoid asking too much. If what you said happened, then they would be forced to do the same for the EU version and all other versions. Otherwise it would be very unfair on people who moved to other versions after having spent a bit on this game.
That would be true, however in this case it's not because G4Box owns both CF NA/UK and CF LA, so they can actually do something about it. G4Box has nothing to do with CF EU so adding anything extra for them is out of the question. -
Sweet so you see what I'm saying. But if they ****ed previous records up. Then ya gonna be hard..GodsGunman wrote: »I've coded plenty of times, in fact I'm writing this in an SQL class.
The problem is they might not keep track of things properly. For example, you'd think "just write a simple search query to see if a weapon has been nerfed/boosted", but in reality they didn't keep any stats about what was added into the game or when until early 2010 or late 2009, which makes me uncertain about how they keep records. -
CrackinDomes wrote: »Have you ever coded? It's all stored in a database. With acsess to that changeing a simple Database entry(Ex: 1 means you have weapon, 0 means you don't). Really its easy. Simple drag and drop of a database file to update entrys. Only issue with it would be the conflicting ID numbers between the two games for the User ID. As well as if the number representing each gun is the same between the two databases.
You're pretty much right here on how simple databases work, but it's often a lot more complicated than that.
Items could have different IDs or entry locations between versions. Plus there are other things within the code that could cause problems. In theory it would be as simple as turning an item on and off, but in practice it's often not that smooth.
The idea of the Latin American server has brought out a lot of passions in people. But considering their Closed Beta doesn't even begin until the 9th, we're still a long way before these kinds of posts sound more like legitimate suggestion and less like pure discrimination.
Let the South American service gain traction. CF will be 4 years old in 2012! It's not going anywhere. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »You're pretty much right here on how simple databases work, but it's often a lot more complicated than that.
Items could have different IDs or entry locations between versions. Plus there are other things within the code that could cause problems. In theory it would be as simple as turning an item on and off, but in practice it's often not that smooth.
The idea of the Latin American server has brought out a lot of passions in people. But considering their Closed Beta doesn't even begin until the 9th, we're still a long way before these kinds of posts sound more like legitimate suggestion and less like pure discrimination.
Let the South American service gain traction. CF will be 4 years old in 2012! It's not going anywhere.
Understandable, just wait and see what happens I suppose.
Thanks for reading my suggestion.
I hope that discrimination part wasn't about this suggestion o.o -
Idk... I think that one beauty of a growing version is how the # of weapons get introduced per patch or so.
Having them start out in the same # as we are doesn't seem right, idk this was how it was for the other versions in Japan, or even China.
NA/UK didn't have such arsenal of weapons to play with at the time they started... -
Idk... I think that one beauty of a growing version is how the # of weapons get introduced per patch or so.
Having them start out in the same # as we are doesn't seem right, idk this was how it was for the other versions in Japan, or even China.
NA/UK didn't have such arsenal of weapons to play with at the time they started...
It'd be nice for them if they had about 15-20 weapons to start with. -
Yes, i think it would be great job if they do that and many people will really decide to move to the another game without any fears but i dont think that will happen.
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[GM]Saidin wrote: »CF will be 4 years old in 2012!
I hope we get some events / promotions due to that great occasion
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[GM]Saidin wrote: »You're pretty much right here on how simple databases work, but it's often a lot more complicated than that.
Items could have different IDs or entry locations between versions. Plus there are other things within the code that could cause problems. In theory it would be as simple as turning an item on and off, but in practice it's often not that smooth.
The idea of the Latin American server has brought out a lot of passions in people. But considering their Closed Beta doesn't even begin until the 9th, we're still a long way before these kinds of posts sound more like legitimate suggestion and less like pure discrimination.
Let the South American service gain traction. CF will be 4 years old in 2012! It's not going anywhere.
You know, a lot of people hates to have laggers everywhere in the servers. We NEED to moved them to CFLA. It is a MUST. So please, do us a favor. Give them some benefits to move to CFLA. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »You're pretty much right here on how simple databases work, but it's often a lot more complicated than that.
Items could have different IDs or entry locations between versions. Plus there are other things within the code that could cause problems. In theory it would be as simple as turning an item on and off, but in practice it's often not that smooth.
The idea of the Latin American server has brought out a lot of passions in people. But considering their Closed Beta doesn't even begin until the 9th, we're still a long way before these kinds of posts sound more like legitimate suggestion and less like pure discrimination.
Let the South American service gain traction. CF will be 4 years old in 2012! It's not going anywhere.
I was thinking.. If a player can verify that he/she has an account on this client AND had either done surveys or paid ZP for this game, they can become a "premium member" on CF_LA and can be gifted temporary ZP items in the new client for about 5-7 days including a GP bonus of, idk 10kGP or something like that.. Oh and also, their account had to be registered since November 30th so no one can farm from one side to another and abuse the system.
I don't know if it's hard to do that but there's another game that I played (not FPS) and when their app became free, they gave all the members who had paid for the game, 1 free track from every premium album they release into the game. It worked rather well and kept me playing instead of raging about losing money. -
He got you.
How so?
This suggestion had absolutely nothing to do with discrimination. I saw a lot of South Americans complaining about losing things that they paid for (which is understandable as I said), so I tried coming up with a solution for them to get something in return of spending money on this version; free zp (not as much but still free) on theirs, something I've never gotten. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »But considering their Closed Beta doesn't even begin until the 9th, we're still a long way before these kinds of posts sound more like legitimate suggestion and less like pure discrimination.
Lol a suggestion about giving BR's something is discrimination? Touchy much? I know the "BR" word was mentioned but that's overkill, calm down;) -
GodsGunman wrote: »How so?
This suggestion had absolutely nothing to do with discrimination. I saw a lot of South Americans complaining about losing things that they paid for (which is understandable as I said), so I tried coming up with a solution for them to get something in return of spending money on this version; free zp (not as much but still free) on theirs, something I've never gotten.
You're pretty much twisting words. There's a hidden meaning in your thread. "Let me help z8 get rid of the BRs faster in this game. I hate them." I saw your post before it was deleted in Conferado's thread. Your opinion in that thread was already biased on the situation.Lol a suggestion about giving BR's something is discrimination? Touchy much? I know the "BR" word was mentioned but that's overkill, calm down;)
Obviously not understanding. Saidin wasn't against giving BR's something to compensate all that they have spent in this game. He was responding to people's hidden intentions on the situation. -
What SA needs to understand, which is simple, you'll not lose a dime nor your account. Switching versions would most likely be optional and not forced. If you do decide to swap versions, than you will be starting fresh as if you created a new account for NA/UK. This suggestion as many others (ie: character transfer, free zp, etc) would be optional, assuming for Z8games. It's not understandable, if you're not losing nothing. The worst that could possibly happen is an IP restriction for SA from creating a new account. When CFLA flourish, they won't know we even exist.
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You're pretty much twisting words. There's a hidden meaning in your thread. "Let me help z8 get rid of the BRs faster in this game. I hate them." I saw your post before it was deleted in Conferado's thread. Your opinion in that thread was already biased on the situation.
Obviously not understanding. Saidin wasn't against giving BR's something to compensate all that they have spent in this game. He was responding to people's hidden intentions on the situation.
What I think of most Brazilians is not important here. They want some incentive to switch from CF NA/UK to CF LA, and I'm trying to provide that.
My suggestion is a win/win for everybody, assuming the South Americans will still buy the same amount of ZP when they switch versions, even G4Box wins, making it a win/win/win situation.
Try looking at the big picture, both you and Saidin. I'm not some kid that only thinks about himself, I try and make it so that everybody can play and be happy. -
He was responding to people's hidden intentions on the situation.
Yea the not so hidden intention was telling Saidin to give them a fair shake instead of ripping them off. Many brought ZP and to play on CF LA they will have to buy it again a percentage of what they brought here is fair and gives an incentive. -
I agree with the thread maker but... i don't think that i'll me ''moving'' to CF LA!
There will be TOO MUCH hackers and QQers there, i won't have my account wich i spended a LOT of money and i won't be able to play GM anymore, i can barely play GM on CF NA with a high ping and being ''tank killed'' by low pingers, imagine ME with a 10~30 ping killing every single ghost on the map, noobs will QQ hardly and kick me from every single GM room, so i'm not that happy with the LA version! -
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I agree with the thread maker but... i don't think that i'll me ''moving'' to CF LA!
There will be TOO MUCH hackers and QQers there, i won't have my account wich i spended a LOT of money and i won't be able to play GM anymore, i can barely play GM on CF NA with a high ping and being ''tank killed'' by low pingers, imagine ME with a 10~30 ping killing every single ghost on the map, noobs will QQ hardly and kick me from every single GM room, so i'm not that happy with the LA version!
LOL - But remember they'll reg better on you too:p -
I agree with the thread maker but... i don't think that i'll me ''moving'' to CF LA!
There will be TOO MUCH hackers and QQers there, i won't have my account wich i spended a LOT of money and i won't be able to play GM anymore, i can barely play GM on CF NA with a high ping and being ''tank killed'' by low pingers, imagine ME with a 10~30 ping killing every single ghost on the map, noobs will QQ hardly and kick me from every single GM room, so i'm not that happy with the LA version!
I don't suppose that G4Box will sooner or later enforce an IP restriction for Brazil until CF LA actually becomes public. So for now, it's probably best for you to enjoy it while you still can.
Besides, most of the people that play this game that are typically southern American are usually decent players. It's kind of rare to see a Latin American with poor playing skills on this forum.. IMO. -
TGEHydralisk wrote: »
Besides, most of the people that play this game that are typically southern American are usually decent players. It's kind of rare to see a Latin American with poor playing skills on this forum.. IMO.
Well if you play delta 9 or the us south servers then yea, a lot of the South American players are decent players. It's usually the kids that don't keep up with their community so they play on the pub servers.
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