ZM Hackers; agree or disagree?

Discuss.

My opinion, I would hate to have a hacker in a ZM game just because it loses the fun within the game. Yea sure I get a free boss win. But they hacker ALSO gets the more badass crates (gold or even crystal if he is that desperate).

The point is, I play ZM for the fun of it, as well as the great teamwork of 3 others willing to play right. But when a hacker joins in the room and starts cleaning up, I feel left out, useless... almost like this mode wasn't worth playing in the first place.

Because in the end, you are not playing, but waiting.

Other thoughts? Disagreement?

Please keep this professional with respect to others. It seems childish to start naming people as hackers or to point out that that person's post is stupid. Yes you can call out on people, but learn to disagree with....grace.
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  • If I want boss crates, I'd like a hacker in my game because it'd make it easier.
    If I want to get regular crates, I'd want to play without a hacker and with friends/clanmates.
  • If I want to win a boss crate and two silver cases, better find a room with a hacker.

    If I want to lose and only get a bronze case: Bite the pillow, it's going in dry.
  • I don't mind hackers in game, if I cared about getting a good crate I wouldn't be playing in a public game.
  • one_9 wrote: »
    Discuss.

    My opinion, I would hate to have a hacker in a ZM game just because it loses the fun within the game. Yea sure I get a free boss win. But they hacker ALSO gets the more badass crates (gold or even crystal if he is that desperate).

    The point is, I play ZM for the fun of it, as well as the great teamwork of 3 others willing to play right. But when a hacker joins in the room and starts cleaning up, I feel left out, useless... almost like this mode wasn't worth playing in the first place.

    Because in the end, you are not playing, but waiting.

    Other thoughts? Disagreement?

    Please keep this professional with respect to others. It seems childish to start naming people as hackers or to point out that that person's post is stupid. Yes you can call out on people, but learn to disagree with....grace.
    Haha I know what your'e saying, I love the free boss defeat, but i always end up only geting enough points for 2 silver crates, which has nothing of value really, and when I finally got all 5 bosses (took me 2 hours) I got a dumb head wrapping and that was it... But with 2 non******** ZM is almost impossible without revive tokens. Personally I think Z8 games should decrease the level of difficulty in ZM and update their anti - hack engine because Ive seen a wave of hackers lately that i'm dealing with.
    BTW QUESTION
    How can you find out if someone you reported got banned, id like the satisfaction of knowing the hacker got kicked :P?
  • Playing with a hacker always guarantees 2 Silver Crates. Sometimes if you're good enough you can get a Gold. But playing with a hacker is about as tough depending on how smart they hack. When you hit that 120 zombie wave on Unearth, it can be difficult depending on the hacker. I personally don't mind it, because it's not hurting me. If I die during a ZM game, I get very little exp. At least winning makes the time worthwhile. I'd rather have a hacker in Unearth any day over a worthless glitcher who won't do anything but sit with his thumb up his anus.
  • kik all the no brain hackers before they kik you on round 30
    hackers make my blood boil and any no life that would keep one in ANY game
  • As nice as it would be to do so, i'm sticky to my firm no hackers policy no matter what mode it is.
  • Excellent opinions so far. It's given me some food for thought (no pun intended xD). Thanks to everyone so far that has kept it civil.
  • I play games to have fun, and to have challenges. Not to join a game and sit there while one guy does all the work with the flip of a switch. Or push of a button... Makes me angry, you won' like me when I'm angry.:mad:
  • keep them in zombie mode/tdm/escape so they stay out of gm/hero/snd
  • I agree with you one_9 totally.

    I would kick hackers out of ZM but to be honest I would get kicked, and it's free crates so bleh.

    If you want a good game though with friends is best and do it legit, only way to get a gold crate or higher.

    Edit: Yesterday I got kicked for not hacking, One guy said "{MyName} hak?" and after I said "no" 20 secs later I was kicked.
  • I read all posts hear so far and most of you got your opinions. Well, here is mine:

    I play to compete against other human players. This is why i dislike zombie mode. (This is even why I don't like BP/m12s but that doesn't matter)

    So I only play zombie mode when my clanmates want me to or when I need a kris. I spend ~1 hour a week just to find a zombie mode with hackers and to get the reward.
  • As long as it benefits me,and not lands me a ban,I could care less.
    Might as well make the best of a bad situation.
  • I don't start a vote usually..since if it gets denied I'm going to get kicked for sure.
  • i almost only play unearth, to save hypomeds for biohazard
    and both maps are easy without hackers or tokens..
    so i say i think i dont need haackers for zombie mode
  • Free boss crates, i dont see why should we be complaining?
  • F4ilBl0g wrote: »
    i almost only play unearth, to save hypomeds for biohazard
    and both maps are easy without hackers or tokens..
    so i say i think i dont need haackers for zombie mode

    That's how I've gotten up to about 116 hypomeds or so.
  • very much disagree!

    its funny to see that if you are getting a bad KD rate by someone who hacks. you all go crazy and moan and whine about it (blaming x-trap)

    BUT...

    If you can GAIN something out of the hackers (ZM boss crate) then you all welcome them into the game. dont you think you're being a hypocrite?
  • Razor2517 wrote: »
    very much disagree!

    its funny to see that if you are getting a bad KD rate by someone who hacks. you all go crazy and moan and whine about it (blaming x-trap)

    BUT...

    If you can GAIN something out of the hackers (ZM boss crate) then you all welcome them into the game. dont you think you're being a hypocrite?
    IKR
    I just dont understand what happened to a sense or morality these days
  • Razor2517 wrote: »
    very much disagree!

    its funny to see that if you are getting a bad KD rate by someone who hacks. you all go crazy and moan and whine about it (blaming x-trap)

    BUT...

    If you can GAIN something out of the hackers (ZM boss crate) then you all welcome them into the game. dont you think you're being a hypocrite?

    You can gain something out of hackers in all modes ie "mission wins" or "wins" for example.

    The difference in other modes is that you can kick them and be relatively safe because they are ruining the game for other players.

    In ZM you can be there for 23 rounds and then a hacker comes you either accept it or get kicked. This happens in other modes but not so much.
  • agreed , they come in and kick anyone who even calls them suspicious , You either play with them and stay quiet or get the boot
  • agreed , they come in and kick anyone who even calls them suspicious , You either play with them and stay quiet or get the boot

    Even so, they kick you when you're past wave 25.
  • HackLose wrote: »
    Even so, they kick you when you're past wave 25.

    Never experienced that, it's usually it's when I mention that they hack or try to kick them.

    And tbh that doesn't make sense unless the hacker is very selfish because you would get very low points for even killing the whole waves alone.
  • As long as it benefits me,and not lands me a ban,I could care less.
    Might as well make the best of a bad situation.

    A "bad situation" would imply that you are coming away with something at a great cost.


    With the haackers :
      [li]You aren't wasting money on revive tokens. You're less likely to die with them in the room unless you keep falling trying to get into the glitch spot...[/li] [li]You aren't wasting money on health boosters. Most enemies are dead before the can slash at you from unfair distances...[/li] [li]You aren't getting slashed from 7 feet away because SmileGate can't program worth a crap (or the engine sucks...) : repeat above[/li] [li]Not like YOU are risking getting banned...plus, it's free crates...period.[/li]
    There is nothing BAD going YOUR way...it's not a "bad situation" besides the fact that your high-scoring possibilities are down the drain when a haacker is in the room.

    And I ran into a haacker in ZM : All he did was kill off anything that was getting to close to us an the other players in the tunnels (underground? whatever the map name is...) and dealt with the snipers while we dealt with everything else...even if he DID 1 hit the damn boss at the end...
  • Chimpzz wrote: »
    Never experienced that, it's usually it's when I mention that they hack or try to kick them.

    And tbh that doesn't make sense unless the hacker is very selfish because you would get very low points for even killing the whole waves alone.

    Not to mention that the boss waves give 0 points on mobs, just points on the boss. It's pointless, even for a haacker to kick after those rounds...


    Typical BR activities though...
  • Free boss crates, i dont see why should we be complaining?

    At this point you support hackers?

    The same hackers that you always complaining that forum?

    That is, when they are useful for you, okay! If not, you cry in this forum!

    It only remains to blame the Brazilians again!

    Hackers ruin any game. There is no difference. a crate achieved with the help of a hacker, just as makes you complicit and accomplice as if using a hacker tool.

    I start a vote to bring down a hacker in ZM. I do not care if I will be harmed by not getting the best marks. I will not encourage anyone to hack.

    So, OP, I do not support hackers Zm or in any way that game.
  • ahead555 wrote: »
    As nice as it would be to do so, i'm sticky to my firm no hackers policy no matter what mode it is.

    Yep. Only I have slightly more tolerance so If they don't F11 I don't have to cuss them out in Portuguese.
  • one_9 wrote: »
    Discuss.

    My opinion, I would hate to have a hacker in a ZM game just because it loses the fun within the game. Yea sure I get a free boss win. But they hacker ALSO gets the more badass crates (gold or even crystal if he is that desperate).

    The point is, I play ZM for the fun of it, as well as the great teamwork of 3 others willing to play right. But when a hacker joins in the room and starts cleaning up, I feel left out, useless... almost like this mode wasn't worth playing in the first place.

    Because in the end, you are not playing, but waiting.

    Other thoughts? Disagreement?

    Please keep this professional with respect to others. It seems childish to start naming people as hackers or to point out that that person's post is stupid. Yes you can call out on people, but learn to disagree with....grace.

    nobody likes hackers but there isn't really much you can do...

    as for ZM mode,all you can do is (Try To) kick them and pray you don't get kicked by the other two who wants him to stay. Grab some Friends/Clan Mates and enjoy your ZM game without the rest of the CF community.
  • xXMizuXx wrote: »
    as for ZM mode,all you can do is (Try To) kick them and pray you don't get kicked by the other two who wants him to stay. Grab some Friends/Clan Mates and enjoy your ZM game without the rest of the CF community.

    You try it? o.0

    I find trying to kick a hacker makes me about as popular as a black guy showing up at a Ku Klux Klan meeting.
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