ping restrictions

R_STORM wrote: »

ok here is the solution to getting rid of the cheaters .As we all know the losers that cheat all have the high pings make it 150 spikes are not an issue .
How on earth is this game suppose to be played when these zoles with 250 ping and shooting the entire team through the wall.

The kick vote is useless because it's only the last round the team with the most cheaters on it decide to kick the losers
8 games this morn and only 14 cheats ,like i said 6 months ago legit players are going to start cheating in order to play WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
Like i said get a actual working anti cheat and i mean it works and updated daily so it does it's job then there would be no need for a kick vote period.
People have said they don't bother reporting any more [waste of time] frankly it seems all i am doing is reporting[1 game 3 reports all the same cheat]

Excellent values for life no matter what if i cheat i don't pay all the honest ones do

Ping restriction have been suggested thousands of times on the forums!
People had allot of idea's on how to do it like a build in ping restriction for rooms!
from 50 till 200 etc!
Or a server with ping restriction etc!

But in the end z8 devs didn't show any interest



But really the community gave up on this idea and moved on to basically just accept the high pingers and just kick/hate/insult/harass them.......

HackLose wrote: »

This was true..but not anymore.

Yep.
msg2true

Confederado wrote: »

I have a question about it.

I believe that if you set a value for the 200 + ping, is a good concept.

But what prevents this value to be changed. Today 200 + is a problem. And tomorrow? 100 to 150? 70 to 100?

I score 115 on average in the U.S. South. I know this is lag. But this will become the next target?

Other than that, the idea is good. But there are flaws. I see hacking players with 180 ping. And there?

The lowest limit should be 140 no lower.
0-40 ping are epically great.
41-80 ping is pretty good.
81-120 ping is manageable but not that great.
121-160 ping is lag and puts the player at a disadvantage.
161+ ping is "OMG why are you even playing this game" bad.



Pings caps are being suggest because players that have been playing for more then a year noticed the changes.

In September 2010
Hackers were very rare, 1 out of 50-100 games.
Hackers were kicked quickly.
Almost no one was abusing the Kick vote.
Hack accusing and insulting was uncommon.
The average ping was 80.

September 2011.
2-5 hackers in every game average.
Next to no one even trying to kick the hackers.
Kick abusing is rampant and being used almost exclusively to kick low ping players.
Hack accusing and insults are very common, most of the insults are in Portuguese and Spanish.
The average ping is 160+.

From December to May as the High ping population got bigger and bigger the number of hackers, kick abusers, and insulters increased as well. Nearly every hacker during the hack waves from December to May were players with 150+ ping.
The One hitter waves when MM and then HM came out, the aimbot/wall wave in the SIA patch , the Speeder wave when Trition patch was out...
Nearly every single obvious hacker I saw during these waves had 150+ ping, very rarely I'd see one with less then 100 ping.

Then in June the High ping population was big enough that they started kicking everyone with less then 120 ping and stopped kicking hackers with more then 120+ ping.

High ping players have made it CLEAR that most of them don't care about anything other then having fun and winning. Many resort to hacking to win and have fun. Many more resort to trying to kick everyone better then them to win and have fun. And even more defend and refuse to kick obvious hackers for the sake of winning.

Eventually this game will be filled with nothing but hackers if this keeps going on.
All other options have been unsuccessful.
X-trap can't keep up with the hack makers.
Support is flooded with way more reports then they can handle.
And the community is now ACCEPTING the hackers.

Ping caps are probably the only thing that can bring this problem under control again.
All other methods that could have worked were never used when they still could of worked and now are useless against the problem.

VATAV wrote: »

The lowest limit should be 140 no lower.
0-40 ping are epically great.
41-80 ping is pretty good.
81-120 ping is manageable but not that great.
121-160 ping is lag and puts the player at a disadvantage.
161+ ping is "OMG why are you even playing this game" bad.



Pings caps are being suggest because players that have been playing for more then a year noticed the changes.

In September 2010
Hackers were very rare, 1 out of 50-100 games.
Hackers were kicked quickly.
Almost no one was abusing the Kick vote.
Hack accusing and insulting was uncommon.
The average ping was 80.

September 2011.
2-5 hackers in every game average.
Next to no one even trying to kick the hackers.
Kick abusing is rampant and being used almost exclusively to kick low ping players.
Hack accusing and insults are very common, most of the insults are in Portuguese and Spanish.
The average ping is 160+.

From December to May as the High ping population got bigger and bigger the number of hackers, kick abusers, and insulters increased as well. Nearly every hacker during the hack waves from December to May were players with 150+ ping.
The One hitter waves when MM and then HM came out, the aimbot/wall wave in the SIA patch , the Speeder wave when Trition patch was out...
Nearly every single obvious hacker I saw during these waves had 150+ ping, very rarely I'd see one with less then 100 ping.

Then in June the High ping population was big enough that they started kicking everyone with less then 120 ping and stopped kicking hackers with more then 120+ ping.

High ping players have made it CLEAR that most of them don't care about anything other then having fun and winning. Many resort to hacking to win and have fun. Many more resort to trying to kick everyone better then them to win and have fun. And even more defend and refuse to kick obvious hackers for the sake of winning.

Eventually this game will be filled with nothing but hackers if this keeps going on.
All other options have been unsuccessful.
X-trap can't keep up with the hack makers.
Support is flooded with way more reports then they can handle.
And the community is now ACCEPTING the hackers.

Ping caps are probably the only thing that can bring this problem under control again.
All other methods that could have worked were never used when they still could of worked and now are useless against the problem.

Hey. I am a manageable guy !!!!! (My is 115). Cool!

Once I found the "Propaganda" in the-game forum. And he was receiving insults from Brazilians

I managed to calm him down a little (I think). I believe that this moment of insults and kicks will end or diminish greatly.

I guess it is a "wave" or "moment". I've spent a lot of my time ingame, arguing with Portuguese speakers to be more educated.

Sometimes it works. But I need little to be happy. One converted per day.

I think the next patch might solve some problems.

Metaphor time.

Imagine that you own track and field store and field itself.
You get lots of customers who come to use your field for athletic events.
You have a store on the side of the field that sells sports equipments like shoes, water bottles, energy bars and other stuff. You don't charge anything to use the field and make a nice profit from the store.

For a long time your little business is doing well and build up a decent sized customer base.
One day for what ever reason a group handicapped people want to use your field as well, seeing no reason not to you let them.

For the first few weeks everything is normal.
For some reason the group of handicapped players start to think all the other players are cheating. The handicapped players almost never win any of the events and rather think that its because of their disabilities they think everyone else must be cheating.

So the group of handicapped players start cheating in the events (inching powder, tacks on the field, pepper spray, ect...). This goes on for awhile and then your regular customers start complaining about blatant cheating going on. So you hire a couple of referees to patrol the grounds to keep a eye out for cheating.

As time goes on more and more handicapped customers start coming to the field.
And they to start cheating as well, eventually the handicapped players get a big enough group that they start sticking together and bullying the non-handicapped players.

The regular customers start leaving and more handicapped customers start coming.
Eventually nearly all the customers are handicapped, and most are cheating in the events.


Now for a question.
What would everyone do about the handicapped customers?

Confederado wrote: »

Hey. I am a manageable guy !!!!! (My is 115). Cool!

Once I found the "Propaganda" in the-game forum. And he was receiving insults from Brazilians

I managed to calm him down a little (I think). I believe that this moment of insults and kicks will end or diminish greatly.

I guess it is a "wave" or "moment". I've spent a lot of my time ingame, arguing with Portuguese speakers to be more educated.

Sometimes it works. But I need little to be happy. One converted per day.

I think the next patch might solve some problems.

Every little bit helps but it will take years at that rate.
By that time I fear the game will be dead by then.

420ivory wrote: »

biggest bs ive ever read in this forum

I started playing on this account back in August 2010.
There was nearly no hacking back then and the players were respectful and even helpful.
This slowly started changing in November, and December is when the problems started to appear.

Chimpzz wrote: »

Yes they are that popular.



Nor Z8.

Whilst the devs need to code to introduce ping caps z8 could make a few servers for the people they were intended for by using IP restrictions.

There would be nothing wrong with making a NA/UK/SA only server and leave the others as a free for all.

Z8 try to say this would be discriminatory which is total codswallop as doing so improves the game for all the said regions and the regions Z8 does officially operate in.

Rank restricted servers are another thing that Z8 could introduce but do not - except on a buggy server located in the UK with a whopping rank requirement of SFC!



But it would be discrimination to ban those handicapped people!

And who makes the tacks, itching powder and pepper spray? That is right you!! Not us disabled people, so we can use without blame, you fully functioning lixo!

Why point these things out? Don't you want to be a better person?

I love your Metaphor

The best, fairest solution when the SA servers come is to Ping cap most servers.
Leave Alpha, UK1, and SA1 uncapped for those who want to play with friends from vastly different regions.
The clan servers so clans can face each other.
And rookie for the newbies.
All other Servers having entrance ping caps of 140.

Vn_Strife_XV wrote: »

Is it me or have i seen about 300 Threads with the same content ?

I guess 302.

bump for greatness

Confederado wrote: »

I have a question about it.

I believe that if you set a value for the 200 + ping, is a good concept.

But what prevents this value to be changed. Today 200 + is a problem. And tomorrow? 100 to 150? 70 to 100?

I score 115 on average in the U.S. South. I know this is lag. But this will become the next target?

Other than that, the idea is good. But there are flaws. I see hacking players with 180 ping. And there?

Srsly ?

Anyone can put any ping range, so what the hell is a problem, if i wanna play only with 1-2 pingers, its my damn choice, and u cant say a shhh about it.

I have 200 ping and I don't cheat.

Your facts are incorrect.

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