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[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »We'll see how well your next competitive section goes and then tell me its just tape a mouse button down and then choose A or B.
I'll be expecting your win.
It's simple thinking. Go here, don't go there. Throw flash, then go. They like to go here, so lets camp here.
All you need for CF is gamesense, not hard to get. -
It's simple thinking. Go here, don't go there. Throw flash, then go. They like to go here, so lets camp here.
All you need for CF is gamesense, not hard to get.
And what do you define as 'gamesense' hm? Especially in a way that can't be applied to just about any other GAME?
Because there's strats being done before the game even starts.
-Choosing your weapon setup
-Starting positions
-Whether you go as a team or group
In game there's also more;
-When and where to use those weapons
-Timing or positioning that grenade
-Predicting enemy movement and gaining the tactical advantage
-Being aware of teammates advances or falls and making up for it
Your arguments can also go for a Chess game. "Don't move that piece there, use this one here. Enclose the King." How simple. -
Comparing CF to Chess?
That has got to be the worse comparison I have ever seen.
Chess is a game of intelligence, CF is a game of having reflexes and knowing where to and not to go. Chess requires you to think. CF just requires you to do this: "Hey, I've been going A for 3 rounds straight, lets go to B now."It's simple thinking. Go here, don't go there. Throw flash, then go. They like to go here, so lets camp here.
All you need for CF is gamesense, not hard to get.
First of all, Gods you have good guides, but you're stubborn and ignorant.
Second off, most of the people in this thread I'm assuming have something wrong with their brain..like the person in my quote.
@him, you expect "go A 2 rounds then go B 2 rounds" to work? Maybe in Alpha pubs, maybe... -
GodsGunman wrote: »FinalShotReviews is as biased, egotistical and ignorant as they come. If you've watched their videos in the past or do so in the future, I strongly suggest that you don't believe anything that they say in their reviews, because most of the time it's wrong.
I absolutely agree with this.
I had a massive argument with WhiteOpz because he was convinced I was wrong about G4Box being the developers and Z8Games being an actual company.
They dont know a thing about what theyre talking about. They get their stats completely wrong and take ages to get a weapon to review. There are much better reviewers out there.
CrossfireDatabase stats are much more accurate by people that kn ow what theyre doing and talking about.
I wouldnt be surprised if theyre being bitter about them being dropped from Z8's sponsoring -
good? are the best reviews from crossfire.
I meant good information-wise
I agree his reviews are the best overall so far too (guidenable).
As for people saying that I did something wrong by posting the correct information on their reviews, I'm not sure how I did anything wrong.
I strongly believe in the golden rule, "treat others how you wish to be treated". If somebody knew that my guides/reviews were wrong, I would be grateful if they told me about it, because I don't want to be giving out wrong information.
I gave FinalShotReviews the gift of knowledge (per se), and they threw it out the window because they were for some reason offended, and swore at me.
I'm simply trying to warn people not to believe anything they say. -
[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »And what do you define as 'gamesense' hm? Especially in a way that can't be applied to just about any other GAME?
Because there's strats being done before the game even starts.
-Choosing your weapon setup
-Starting positions
-Whether you go as a team or group
In game there's also more;
-When and where to use those weapons
-Timing or positioning that grenade
-Predicting enemy movement and gaining the tactical advantage
-Being aware of teammates advances or falls and making up for it
Your arguments can also go for a Chess game. "Don't move that piece there, use this one here. Enclose the King." How simple.
Sorry for long reply, Indonesia does have shtty internet, where I live at least does.
Gamesense is simple thinking on where to go and not to go or what to do and what not to do or what gun to use and what gun not to use. It's simple thinking, which does not work in Chess.
Simple thinking, like in CF cannot work in Chess because there are just too many variables that could happen in chess. Chess requires more thinking and planning a head which is not really needed in CF. In CF you can plan a head after each round you've played, learning from what happened on the round previously, but in Chess, if you make a mistake it usually has a huge effect. Since Chess is one continuous game you can’t make up from your mistakes, because once a piece is lost, it’s lost. While in CF, your entire team can die but you can learn from your previous mistakes as I have said before. So in Chess a mistake can lose you the game, in CF it usually just loses the round which sometimes can cause you to lose the round.
You've pointed out things that do show the need for some thought in CF, but in the end, both games require skill and though, but one needs more of it. -
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Gamesense is simple thinking on where to go and not to go or what to do and what not to do or what gun to use and what gun not to use. It's simple thinking, which does not work in Chess.
You've pointed out things that do show the need for some thought in CF, but in the end, both games require skill and though, but one needs more of it.
I never said CF required more or just as much skill as Chess, I'm saying it does require skill and strategy more than people think.
Gameplay is a bit different, as in Chess its 1v1 rather than usually 5v5.
As the saying goes, "Chess is easy to play, hard to master." CF is the same.
In order to be good at either, you need to study and understand them.
As for the gamesense part, its the same, just different materials and pieces. Any game requires some form of 'gamesense', the difference is how much.
You also forget the other side during this planning stage. The other team is going to be trying to out think and outgun you as well. In your previous example "We lost A 3 times, lets go B", the other team is likely thinking the drop in such morale would yeild a change in previous stat and try to counter that new tactic.
Its not always prep either, sometimes (or alot) strats on are done on the fly depending on how things go. After all, most strats are based on flawless gameplay. If Jimmy missed that sniper shot and died, plans change.
Also, don't think of CF as 'new round = new game' think of a new round as a lost piece. You lose it, you can't get it back, its stuck, and have to drive forward until you make sure they lose all of theirs. -
[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »I never said CF required more or just as much skill as Chess, I'm saying it does require skill and strategy more than people think.
Gameplay is a bit different, as in Chess its 1v1 rather than usually 5v5.
As the saying goes, "Chess is easy to play, hard to master." CF is the same.
In order to be good at either, you need to study and understand them.
As for the gamesense part, its the same, just different materials and pieces. Any game requires some form of 'gamesense', the difference is how much.
You also forget the other side during this planning stage. The other team is going to be trying to out think and outgun you as well. In your previous example "We lost A 3 times, lets go B", the other team is likely thinking the drop in such morale would yeild a change in previous stat and try to counter that new tactic.
Its not always prep either, sometimes (or alot) strats on are done on the fly depending on how things go. After all, most strats are based on flawless gameplay. If Jimmy missed that sniper shot and died, plans change.
Also, don't think of CF as 'new round = new game' think of a new round as a lost piece. You lose it, you can't get it back, its stuck, and have to drive forward until you make sure they lose all of theirs.
I guess the argument started on a mis-understanding.
I thought you meant that CF needed just as much or more skill. -
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It's simple thinking. Go here, don't go there. Throw flash, then go. They like to go here, so lets camp here.
All you need for CF is gamesense, not hard to get.
I am sure I used simple thinking there....oh wait... I ran around like a monkey to draw people in to traps and used their own gunfire to create traps. Complex thinking for winning matches. Simple thinking for getting a few kills and dying. -
I don't really care about reload time I watch their vids to be entertained and have an idea about how good or bad a gun is. You shouldn't rage so much ( even though their reply was horrible. ) But your reviews are great though GodsGunman keap up the work
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GodsGunman wrote: »FinalShotReviews is as biased, egotistical and ignorant as they come. If you've watched their videos in the past or do so in the future, I strongly suggest that you don't believe anything that they say in their reviews, because most of the time it's wrong.
If you're going to watch their reviews, just do it for entertainment. Don't think anything they say is true.
I took my own time to go through some of their videos and I noticed inconsistencies and false information.
For example, in one video they say that the m4a1 custom and the m4a1-e have reload times of 2.15 seconds, which is wrong. They're actually 2.4 seconds.
In another video, FinalShotReviews says the m16a2 has a reload time of 2.83 seconds (which is also wrong but it's close; the reload time is 2.8 seconds). In that video they say that the m16a2 has a faster reload time than the m4a1 series, but that is just plain false, even according to what he had said.
I commented on a few of his videos where I noticed he was giving false information, and what did he do? he deleted my comments. That means he doesn't care if he gives out false information or not.
There were 2 instances where he didn't delete my comments, one was on an m16a2 review (which he didn't comment on), and another was on an M4A1-E review.
Here's what happened with the M4A1-E review:
I commented this:
I'm not sure why, but you always seem to be wrong when it comes to the reload times (from what I've seen so far).
It reloads in 2.4 seconds, not 2.15 which is what you said.
Also, nothing about the M4A1-E is worse than the M4A1 Custom. Why you think it's a downgrade I do not know.
to which he replied:
@GodsGunman Remove the ***** from your ass. Extract this video. Put a timecode from the start of the reload to the end of the reload. 2.15 seconds. We're sponsored by Crossfire as well, not to mention Gamersfirst. Oh and gaming/vent community admin's are ready to suck our ****s on moments notice. Just because you're sponsored by Crossfire (which sucks major donkey **** now.) for what. A month?. That doesn't give you the right to come and critique other reviewers. Your a **** Scott.
So now you can see why I said egotistical and ignorant at the start of this thread.
I'm just telling you guys this so you don't believe their lies to you.
I agree, their reviews are getting kind of boring right now. Guidenable has really great reviews, such as giving a list of all the damages one gun can do, and showing the CORRECT reload time of a gun.
btw, i wonder what White or black0pz would say if he saw this
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Only reason your hating is because he fuucked you up on that comment. Dont listen to CFDatabase. Watch FSR there way more funny. FSR was supported by CF first so dont hate. Goodbai
If I wanted to see funny shows, I'd watch comedy central.
When I want a gun review, I want accuracy just as much as opinion.
If someone has false stats on a review, that makes them poor at their job as they did little research.
That's like saying the Leaf's are a major skilled team because they've been around longer than most. (No offense to fellow leaf fans.) -
GodsGunman wrote: »FinalShotReviews is as biased, egotistical and ignorant as they come. If you've watched their videos in the past or do so in the future, I strongly suggest that you don't believe anything that they say in their reviews, because most of the time it's wrong.
If you're going to watch their reviews, just do it for entertainment. Don't think anything they say is true.
I took my own time to go through some of their videos and I noticed inconsistencies and false information.
For example, in one video they say that the m4a1 custom and the m4a1-e have reload times of 2.15 seconds, which is wrong. They're actually 2.4 seconds.
In another video, FinalShotReviews says the m16a2 has a reload time of 2.83 seconds (which is also wrong but it's close; the reload time is 2.8 seconds). In that video they say that the m16a2 has a faster reload time than the m4a1 series, but that is just plain false, even according to what he had said.
I commented on a few of his videos where I noticed he was giving false information, and what did he do? he deleted my comments. That means he doesn't care if he gives out false information or not.
There were 2 instances where he didn't delete my comments, one was on an m16a2 review (which he didn't comment on), and another was on an M4A1-E review.
Here's what happened with the M4A1-E review:
I commented this:
I'm not sure why, but you always seem to be wrong when it comes to the reload times (from what I've seen so far).
It reloads in 2.4 seconds, not 2.15 which is what you said.
Also, nothing about the M4A1-E is worse than the M4A1 Custom. Why you think it's a downgrade I do not know.
to which he replied:
@GodsGunman Remove the ***** from your ass. Extract this video. Put a timecode from the start of the reload to the end of the reload. 2.15 seconds. We're sponsored by Crossfire as well, not to mention Gamersfirst. Oh and gaming/vent community admin's are ready to suck our ****s on moments notice. Just because you're sponsored by Crossfire (which sucks major donkey **** now.) for what. A month?. That doesn't give you the right to come and critique other reviewers. Your a **** Scott.
So now you can see why I said egotistical and ignorant at the start of this thread.
I'm just telling you guys this so you don't believe their lies to you.
*cough*nerd*cough* -
GodsGunman wrote: »FinalShotReviews is as biased, egotistical and ignorant as they come. If you've watched their videos in the past or do so in the future, I strongly suggest that you don't believe anything that they say in their reviews, because most of the time it's wrong.
If you're going to watch their reviews, just do it for entertainment. Don't think anything they say is true.
I took my own time to go through some of their videos and I noticed inconsistencies and false information.
For example, in one video they say that the m4a1 custom and the m4a1-e have reload times of 2.15 seconds, which is wrong. They're actually 2.4 seconds.
In another video, FinalShotReviews says the m16a2 has a reload time of 2.83 seconds (which is also wrong but it's close; the reload time is 2.8 seconds). In that video they say that the m16a2 has a faster reload time than the m4a1 series, but that is just plain false, even according to what he had said.
I commented on a few of his videos where I noticed he was giving false information, and what did he do? he deleted my comments. That means he doesn't care if he gives out false information or not.
There were 2 instances where he didn't delete my comments, one was on an m16a2 review (which he didn't comment on), and another was on an M4A1-E review.
Here's what happened with the M4A1-E review:
I commented this:
I'm not sure why, but you always seem to be wrong when it comes to the reload times (from what I've seen so far).
It reloads in 2.4 seconds, not 2.15 which is what you said.
Also, nothing about the M4A1-E is worse than the M4A1 Custom. Why you think it's a downgrade I do not know.
to which he replied:
@GodsGunman Remove the ***** from your ass. Extract this video. Put a timecode from the start of the reload to the end of the reload. 2.15 seconds. We're sponsored by Crossfire as well, not to mention Gamersfirst. Oh and gaming/vent community admin's are ready to suck our ****s on moments notice. Just because you're sponsored by Crossfire (which sucks major donkey **** now.) for what. A month?. That doesn't give you the right to come and critique other reviewers. Your a **** Scott.
So now you can see why I said egotistical and ignorant at the start of this thread.
I'm just telling you guys this so you don't believe their lies to you.
I like final shot reviews, they make me laught.
and now that Steven from mission to pwn has quit crossfire, its the only decent review chanel in youtube.
I never liked TTTR.
R.I.P. missiontopwn -
I am sure I used simple thinking there....oh wait... I ran around like a monkey to draw people in to traps and used their own gunfire to create traps. Complex thinking for winning matches. Simple thinking for getting a few kills and dying.
Because alpha pubs while using an xm8 is a hard task to get a 8k? lolololol.
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