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This thread is false.
Br's are one of the most people with sportmanship when it comes to eSports (electronic sports) , i know from 3rd person's that competitive crossfire in brazil is done on LAN's and outside of ESL's , br's are in fact very professional when ever comes to eSports..
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And yet I get called "Porra" "Lixo" haker all the time in crossfire, see dozens of players saying "Kika (player name) haker!", and rarely see hackers with less then 120 ping.
They may have great Sportsmanship in ESports games, but they show none in crossfire. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »immaturity would be to willingly blame one single group of people for certain problems,
no that would be ignorance.Vn_Strife_XV wrote: »All cf player nations hack , brazil , germany , europe , usa , austria , africa , egypt , turkey ETc. but in different percentages , brazil and egypt ( Turks as well) is a large population of hackers
Where'd you get these "percentages" from then?This thread is false.
Br's are one of the most people with sportmanship when it comes to eSports (electronic sports) , i know from 3rd person's that competitive crossfire in brazil is done on LAN's and outside of ESL's , br's are in fact very professional when ever comes to eSports..
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For the first time ever (hahah..) I'm gonna agree with Exoduss.And yet I get called "Porra" "Lixo" haker all the time in crossfire, see dozens of players saying "Kika (player name) haker!", and rarely see hackers with less then 120 ping.
They may have great Sportsmanship in ESports games, but they show none in crossfire.
The BR Community stays as a community, You only see the random pubstars that think hacking is fun. from what I hear, they have their own leagues & tournaments (amiright?)
Just because someone has 120 Ping doesn't mean they're automatically BR/TR/EGY etc... A few months ago, I had 64 Ping (most turkish players have this ping) yet I'm from England.
As for the ping capped servers - what would happen to people who spike regularly? They automatically get kicked once they spike to 1.8k ping for ~3 seconds? that's fair isn't it. -
no that would be ignorance.
Where'd you get these "percentages" from then?
For the first time ever (hahah..) I'm gonna agree with Exoduss.
The BR Community stays as a community, You only see the random pubstars that think hacking is fun. from what I hear, they have their own leagues & tournaments (amiright?)
Just because someone has 120 Ping doesn't mean they're automatically BR/TR/EGY etc... A few months ago, I had 64 Ping (most turkish players have this ping) yet I'm from England.
As for the ping capped servers - what would happen to people who spike regularly? They automatically get kicked once they spike to 1.8k ping for ~3 seconds? that's fair isn't it.
You play from England? Do you mostly play the NA or UK servers?
Anyways, its not hard to figure out if their from SA. Most will request your kick by saying kika instead of kick, insult you by saying "porra" or "lixo", and the name of the clans their in suggest the region.
The hackers themselves rarely speak but the majority have 150+ ping and only a few regions will have that ping.
Anywhere in Asia doesn't make sense because they have many CF versions to choose from.
Europe got its own version so its more likely Europeans will play there.
Africa would most likely play in UK servers or Europe's version.
This leaves SA, NA, and Australia and of those three only SA and Australia would have those pings.
As others have said in the thread, the Ping cap only keeps you from entering if your ping is too high, once your in it lets you stay what matter what happens. -
You play from England? Do you mostly play the NA or UK servers?
Anyways, its not hard to figure out if their from SA. Most will request your kick by saying kika instead of kick, insult you by saying "porra" or "lixo", and the name of the clans there in suggest the region.
The hackers themselves rarely speak but the majority have 150+ ping and only a few regions will have that ping.
Anywhere in Asia doesn't make sense because they have many CF versions to choose from.
Europe got its own version so its more likely Europeans will play there.
Africa would most likely play in UK servers or Europe's version.
This leaves SA, NA, and Australia and of those three only SA and Australia would have those pings.
As others have said in the thread, the Ping cap only keeps you from entering if your ping is too high, once your in it lets you stay what matter what happens.
UK Servers.
In the last few days I've had probably 5 games with ~2 in each over 100 ping (Or just spiking due to download/whatever)
I've had about 4 hackers, the highest ping if i remember was about 90, as well as a one with ~30ping and rest inbetween.. all i've played publicly is Factory and ship, with the odd other map if bored. (obviously not gonna be totally right considering it's been a few days..)
From what I hear from friends playing CFEU when bored, they still have plenty of hackers too, a few of them instantly came back to this one - Brs obviously taking over that one too ..right? -
UK Servers.
In the last few days I've had probably 5 games with ~2 in each over 100 ping (Or just spiking due to download/whatever)
I've had about 4 hackers, the highest ping if i remember was about 90, as well as a one with ~30ping and rest inbetween.. all i've played publicly is Factory and ship, with the odd other map if bored. (obviously not gonna be totally right considering it's been a few days..)
From what I hear from friends playing CFEU when bored, they still have plenty of hackers too, a few of them instantly came back to this one - Brs obviously taking over that one too ..right?
I Should clarify, I only play the NA servers so what I say implies for them.
If you mostly only play UK then it be rare for you to see a SA player.
I have heard the Egypt and Turkey get 90-100 ping in UK servers and many people say they are the majority for UK hackers, But I don't play UK so I don't know how true that is. -
I Should clarify, I only play the NA servers so what I say implies for them.
If you mostly only play UK then it be rare for you to see a SA player.
I have heard the Egypt and Turkey get 90-100 ping in UK servers and many people say they are the majority for UK hackers, But I don't play UK so I don't know how true that is.
I haven't played in the NA Servers for a good few month, nor do I want to really.
Is there not a server you go to, in which the majority doesn't have an IQ under 30?
For instance I have 2 I can go to where I know will be hack free for 90% of the games. -
I haven't played in the NA Servers for a good few month, nor do I want to really.
Is there not a server you go to, in which the majority doesn't have an IQ under 30?
For instance I have 2 I can go to where I know will be hack free for 90% of the games.
The servers that are usually hack free have next to no one playing in them.
The only popular one is West coast but I get kicked very fast there.
I also get kicked usually from UK servers for lagging (unstable 130-160 ping) and still doing better then most of the players there.
And yes, 90% of the players behave worse then 6 year olds. (30 IQ is way to low, closer to 80 IQ. At 30 IQ their brains wouldn't be able to understand what the eyes are seeing.) -
The servers that are usually hack free have next to no one playing in them.
The only popular one is West coast but I get kicked very fast there.
I also get kicked usually from UK servers for lagging (unstable 130-160 ping) and still doing better then most of the players there.
And yes, 90% of the players behave worse then 6 year olds. (30 IQ is way to low, closer to 80 IQ. At 30 IQ their brains wouldn't be able to understand what the eyes are seeing.)
if you go to UK Servers, try UK4-7, or UK3-8..
uk47 is asian server, so although you have to put up with the whole room having star & armour, they still are decent to play against, and hack free.
uk3-8 is scrim channel so ya...
Why don't you go echo 8 or some shiit, wasn't there Bravo 10 or something too? I can't remember but yeah... -
if you go to UK Servers, try UK4-7, or UK3-8..
uk47 is asian server, so although you have to put up with the whole room having star & armour, they still are decent to play against, and hack free.
uk3-8 is scrim channel so ya...
Why don't you go echo 8 or some shiit, wasn't there Bravo 10 or something too? I can't remember but yeah...
Never heard of bravo 10, echo 8 rarely plays ghost mode and their very anal on what guns are aloud. Use anything that isn't the standard M4A1, AK47, Deagle, Or AWM and they will kick you.
I mostly only play GM and once in awhile ZM. In GM it doesn't matter if a BL is hacking, most ghost that need to hack suck to bad to be anywhere near a challenge even with the hack. -
Never heard of bravo 10, echo 8 rarely plays ghost mode and their very anal on what guns are aloud. Use anything that isn't the standard M4A1, AK47, Deagle, Or AWM and they will kick you.
I mostly only play GM and once in awhile ZM. In GM it doesn't matter if a BL is hacking, most ghost that need to hack suck to bad to be anywhere near a challenge even with the hack.
the first thing I thought was "heheh, anal" ...
but yeah, Swear there was a GM channel in bravo.. I don't know. -
Confederado wrote: »When you guys get banned Brazilians, most hackers will disappear. Right?
If they were banned that would be correct, every game I enter there is a hacker and if they are not Brasilian I am surprised.
But nobody is arguing for them to be banned, however there needs to be some sort of problem solving done. Ping caps make sense since regardless of whether someone hacks or not their teleportation does affect the game.Confederado wrote: »In this scenario, nations that use the hack, but are a minority, will be majority. Right?
After Brasizilians it's pretty even with regard to who hacks minus Turks/Egy's.Confederado wrote: »I myself have professed these theories. I think after you build a server SA, we should be isolated from each other. Avoid future confusion.
I don't believe this should be the case, there however should be restricted servers and none restricted ones, so if you did want to play without "mini pings" or "BR hackers" you can but there would be multicultural servers without restriction because there are many decent Brazilian players some of who I enjoy playing with.Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »Pft facts? Ok then showq me the data you have recieved from z8game and g4box to proves that what you are saying is 'fact' thanks. And btw i do play american server now and again now that my ping is 110 again and your finding are still BS imo. And in the uk servers the turks and egys i know are actually great people... only certain few of them hack like people from ALL countries.
Read original post and accept my challenge instead of being ignorant and politically correct.
When you enter games and there is nearly always a BR shooting through the walls or botting then it gets to the point when you think "without these goons this would be a good game". -
Without BRs, CF would be dead...
I don't believe that to be so, there are many many players from other countries.
And why are some people saying "without BR's" "Banning BR's" when nobody has suggested banning the entire region, yes it would solve the problem but there are many better solutions that don't affect the many legit BR's and in fact would enhance there gaming experience, such as ping caps or restricted servers.You overexaggerated the cheating a bit
The majority of the hackers are BR (unless you play in the UK servers).
And when every game of TDM there are usually 3 that is not exaggerating, in fact it uncontroversial they make up the majority of hackers. -
dAgreed, Ping cap entry once the SA servers come is the easiest, fastest, and cheapest answer to the problem.
The majority of hackers have 150+ ping with only a few with less then 100.
This game always had hackers but before SA players the hackers were usually kicked.
Now its High ping hackers defended by high ping players that kick low ping players because the high ping players can't play well at all.
I was playing back when Subagames was the portal and that was when I was in 10th grade, 4 years ago.
ping cap didnt do sh1tt lol
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Read original post and accept my challenge instead of being ignorant and politically correct.
When you enter games and there is nearly always a BR shooting through the walls or botting then it gets to the point when you think "without these goons this would be a good game".
you keep coming up with the same rubbish trying to fob me off calling me ignorant when the fact is you have no facts proving the majority of brs hack at all, so jog on fool. Data from g4box/z8 or your chatting absolute shiz... -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »you keep coming up with the same rubbish trying to fob me off calling me ignorant when the fact is you have no facts that it is all them at all, so jog on fool.
Dodged the challenge again I see talking more rubbish....
Gonna take a dump and get a coffee get back at me. -
im not the one dodging anything sir that would be you - You challeneged me to play in us servers which i do anyway so how have I dodged the challenge? hmmm.. Your just looking for excuses because you know im right - You have no proof in the slightest so you keep changing the subject completely like your last 3 posts to me.....Dodged the challenge again I see talking more rubbish....
Gonna take a dump and get a coffee get back at me.
So cmon get me this data.... im waiting. -
Read carefully:Chimpzz wrote:And as for anybody in denial of the above here is a simple challenge; There is no need to argue about it, come play with me and we will count them.Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »im not the one dodging anything sir that would be you - You challeneged me to play in us servers which i do anyway so how have I dodged the challenge? hmmm..
Lets go and play together today, and for as long as you like, and we'll keep count. We can do this for any period you like and then you can post your findings here. -
Lets go and play together today, and for as long as you like, and we'll keep count. We can do this for any period you like and then you can post your findings here.
Ur disappointing me..... I'm asking for offcial data you have recieved from z8/g4box as you said your findings are fact....
And sure ill come play with you - whats ur IGN ill pm you when i go to play (not sure how long yet tho)
edit - i have to add also, I've met a few hackers before who have over 300 ping and were actually from europe... most probably got some kind of virus from the hack they downloaded which i found hillarious tbh xD So if your basing your findings off peoples ping then it will be flawed. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »Ur disappointing me..... I'm asking for offcial data you have recieved from z8/g4box as you said your findings are fact....
And sure ill come play with you - whats ur IGN ill pm you when i go to play (not sure how long yet tho)
Do you really think G4box holds that sort of data?
They don't even really play and the system only autobans accounts that are trying to inject known code. It's not like they will know it's a Brazilian or not.
When you have time let me know, my whole day is free today - And I'll play with you on my alt since the idea is to get farmed. -
When you have time let me know, my whole day is free today - And I'll play with you on my alt since the idea is to get farmed.
lol the alt is probably a good idea
Think i shall do the same haha, It'll be between 1and2 hours before i can get on, need a shower and breakfast yet ;D haha. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »So if your basing your findings off peoples ping then it will be flawed.
Not only ping, IGN, Clan name and language but generally a mixture of all 3.
I hope you know what to look for otherwise you won't know if they are Brazilian or not (maybe that is your trouble) - I am quite good spotting them since my BR friends helped me a lot with that, prior to this I didn't know a lot of the guys who are BR were BR.
See you in a couple of hours 2PM GMT?
Dunno what alt to play with you on so I'll PM you soon, we'll do TDM, FFA, EM and mission maps.... -
Dunno what alt to play with you on so I'll PM you soon, we'll do TDM, FFA, EM and mission maps....
ready in about 5 just gotta start the comp up. You decided which alt you using? :P
edit - aff damit my ping back to 180 in alpha now -.- lol. Dunno why it does it... most times im 110-130 other times im 180
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Immaturity would be to willfully put your fingers in your ears and to ignore a problem.
Being mature is to tackle and solve problems. Clearly your probably in denial and you are free to have a guided tour and you can post your findings.
how immature, ur raging on a free game's forum about other immature people who ruin your game, dude just go play another game cod has almost everything better than in crossfire, why dont you play it, and how is this dealing with the problems, i dont see you making a better anti-cheat system for crossfire, and almost all the forumers with post number above 200 knows that complaining about hackers wont do a thing, its futile, GMs wont say " you know what, he has a point, lets ban all brs, make a br version of this game, and the hacks will stop"
its not like that, there just too many idiots in this forum. -
guess we are doing it another time? :P I been playing in charlie for the las hour and havent seen too many hackers I saw one waller who had 140 ping and one shoot through wall who had 1240 ping haha xD but they wouldnt speak to me
so couldnt get a definate conclusion to where they were from...
And for some reason my ping in charlie is 119 while in alpha and echo it was 180 and 190 Just the other day in a forumer room i had 120 in echo -
Quote of the day.Confederado wrote: »We must think as a community united and plural. Not as a group that wants to control and one that must be controlled.
The problem aren't those that hack at all. Like u've said back in suba when the situation was worse people were actually kicking them, now they dont get kicked - ur team more likely kicks u for trying to kick the hacker that helps ur team to win.
Even in the days when Suba was the Portal and we had no hack defense, hackers were kicked and most people actually tried to follow the rules.
It was at its best between July 2010 - November 2010.
Hackers were extremely rare back then.
Hackers were kicked if you did see one.
Kick requesting and abusing wasn't going on.
People showed sportsmanship and helped teach one another.
Is too remove those that hack and those that refuse to kick hackers. permanently.
And no - those guys hacking or refusing to kick the hacker arent Brs, I
played on UK most likely (when i was still playing) and there arent Brs (unless they can get a <100 ping somehow), it were people from all nations refusing to kick these hackers, and they're the real problem; people are like: why would i kick the hacker from my team? the people on the other team also wouldnt kick the hacker." or "I need my daily mission wins so let him stay in".
Doing something just against the BRs wont do anything - unless making alpha and bravo almost empty.
I can also say "kika mini ping" or sth. like that..Anyways, its not hard to figure out if their from SA. Most will request your kick by saying kika instead of kick, insult you by saying "porra" or "lixo", and the name of the clans their in suggest the region.
The hackers themselves rarely speak but the majority have 150+ ping and only a few regions will have that ping.
Anywhere in Asia doesn't make sense because they have many CF versions to choose from.
Saying they're br just because they dont speak proper english, have higher ping, etc. , is just kinda stupid..
Probably their hacks make em get higher ping and probably they got fun acting like a Br and blame the whole country even more.
Weird that i havent seen some1 with 100+ ping on UK servers yet..'Ice wrote:CaCau;2521828']even in UK channels we see alot of BR's hacking xD that or turks --'
Turks in UK are same as BRs in NA servers - people can say some turkish words or put a in their name, just to blame the turks for hacking, even tho' the person hacking on the acc with in his name isnt even a turk. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »guess we are doing it another time? :P I been playing in charlie for the las hour and havent seen too many hackers I saw one waller who had 140 ping and one shoot through wall who had 1240 ping haha xD but they wouldnt speak to me so couldnt get a definate conclusion to where they were from...
And for some reason my ping in charlie is 119 while in alpha and echo it was 180 and 190 Just the other day in a forumer room i had 120 in echo
You got lucky, just to tested out what chimp said.
I played 10 TDM games in alpha.
First game had 3 wallers and a aimbotter. second game had only 1 waller. Third had 2 wallers. Fourth game had no hackers. Fifth game had 3 wallers and 2 aimbots. Sixth had no hackers. Seventh had 2 wallers and a aimbot. Eighth had 3 aimbots. Ninth had 1 waller. Tenth had 2 wallers.
21 hackers in 10 games, only 2 had less then 150 ping.Quote of the day.
The problem aren't those that hack at all. Like u've said back in suba when the situation was worse people were actually kicking them, now they dont get kicked - ur team more likely kicks u for trying to kick the hacker that helps ur team to win.
And no - those guys hacking or refusing to kick the hacker arent Brs, I
played on UK most likely (when i was still playing) and there arent Brs (unless they can get a <100 ping somehow), it were people from all nations refusing to kick these hackers, and they're the real problem; people are like: why would i kick the hacker from my team? the people on the other team also wouldnt kick the hacker." or "I need my daily mission wins so let him stay in".
Doing something just against the BRs wont do anything - unless making alpha and bravo almost empty.
I can also say "kika mini ping" or sth. like that..
Saying they're br just because they dont speak proper english, have higher ping, etc. , is just kinda stupid..
Probably their hacks make em get higher ping and probably they got fun acting like a Br and blame the whole country even more.
Weird that i havent seen some1 with 100+ ping on UK servers yet..
Turks in UK are same as BRs in NA servers - people can say some turkish words or put a in their name, just to blame the turks for hacking, even tho' the person hacking on the acc with in his name isnt even a turk.
Yes, the biggest problem is that the majority of players don't want to and won't kick hackers. If it was just hacking and people tried to stop it I wouldn't suggest ping capped servers. But its not just hacking. Its hacking, kick abusing, and defending the hackers that is the problem.
How would a hack affect their ping? Ping is based on internet connection to the servers, hacks are local on the computer. The only way for them to increase the ping is for them to transmit data out of the local computer, and even then it should only increase the ping by about 10.
Pretending to be a Turk with 60-100 ping is easy because many turks and other countries get that ping in the UK servers.
Pretending to be a BR with anything less then 120 is hard to pass as because very few BRs get less then 120 ping well most get 150-200 in NA servers. -
Pretending to be a Turk with 60-100 ping is easy because many turks and other countries get that ping in the UK servers.
Pretending to be a BR with anything less then 120 is hard to pass as because very few BRs get less then 120 ping well most get 150-200 in NA servers.
If I go on alpha/bravo/charlie the min ping i can get is 153, i know many other europeans that easily hit the 190+ on the NA servers.
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