Improving the community
After playing Crossfire daily for three years and being constantly hacked on by high pinged players and players with inho or BR in their name or in their clan name and after experiencing this phenomena every day and seeing nowhere the same number of players from any other nationality hacking it is crystal clear that these players have a different idea of what sportsmanship means.
Since Brazilians generally are diametrically opposed to the idea of fair play, this includes being accepting of cheating or actually cheating then isn't it about time they were allowed to do their own thing with their own nationals? And other players be allowed to play in peace?
And yes we know there are decent polite Brazilians with good sportsmanship but they are outnumbered.
Does Z8 have any plans to improve the situation? ping caps, restricted servers, a Brazilian version of the client? or anything else? as this is extremely annoying for the rest of the CF players.
And as for anybody in denial of the above here is a simple challenge; There is no need to argue about it, come play with me and we will count them.
And I don't really care if I get an infraction because it is about time something was said on this issue and something constructive done to improve the situation.
Since Brazilians generally are diametrically opposed to the idea of fair play, this includes being accepting of cheating or actually cheating then isn't it about time they were allowed to do their own thing with their own nationals? And other players be allowed to play in peace?
And yes we know there are decent polite Brazilians with good sportsmanship but they are outnumbered.
Does Z8 have any plans to improve the situation? ping caps, restricted servers, a Brazilian version of the client? or anything else? as this is extremely annoying for the rest of the CF players.
And as for anybody in denial of the above here is a simple challenge; There is no need to argue about it, come play with me and we will count them.
And I don't really care if I get an infraction because it is about time something was said on this issue and something constructive done to improve the situation.
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After playing Crossfire daily for three years and being constantly hacked on by high pinged players and players with inho or BR in their name or in their clan name and after experiencing this phenomena every day and seeing nowhere the same number of players from any other nationality hacking it is crystal clear that these players have a different idea of what sportsmanship means.
Since Brazilians generally are diametrically opposed to the idea of fair play, this includes being accepting of cheating or actually cheating then isn't it about time they were allowed to do their own thing with their own nationals? And other players be allowed to play in peace?
And yes we know there are decent polite Brazilians with good sportsmanship but they are outnumbered.
Does Z8 have any plans to improve the situation? ping caps, restricted servers, a Brazilian version of the client? or anything else? as this is extremely annoying for the rest of the CF players.
And as for anybody in denial of the above here is a simple challenge; There is no need to argue about it, come play with me and we will count them.
And I don't really care if I get an infraction because it is about time something was said on this issue and something constructive done to improve the situation.
Agreed, Ping cap entry once the SA servers come is the easiest, fastest, and cheapest answer to the problem.
The majority of hackers have 150+ ping with only a few with less then 100.
This game always had hackers but before SA players the hackers were usually kicked.
Now its High ping hackers defended by high ping players that kick low ping players because the high ping players can't play well at all.aExtinction wrote: »crossfire has only been out for 2.5 years
I was playing back when Subagames was the portal and that was when I was in 10th grade, 4 years ago. -
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Hacking is done by all nations, not just BR. But BRs are the most annoying, irritating, immature players of CF I will give you that. They cuss you in portuguese, they kick you, they cry in portuguese. Get rid of them and the CF gameplay will imporve a lot.
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Kedaamikeda wrote: »Hacking is done by all nations, not just BR. But BRs are most annoying, irritating, immature players CF I will give you that. They cuss you in portuguese, they kick you, they cry in portuguese. Get rid of them and the CF gameplay will imporve a lot.
This about sums it up. Too bad the staff is in denial. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »to be honest you bashing certain people is not improving the community its showing how immature it already is.
Immaturity would be to willfully put your fingers in your ears and to ignore a problem.
Being mature is to tackle and solve problems. Clearly your probably in denial and you are free to have a guided tour and you can post your findings.Kedaamikeda wrote: »Hacking is done by all nations, not just BR. But BRs are the most annoying, irritating, immature players of CF I will give you that. They cuss you in portuguese, they kick you, they cry in portuguese. Get rid of them and the CF gameplay will imporve a lot.
Of course hacking is done by all nations that is not in dispute, personally I have seen Chinese, Vietnamese, Venezuelan, British and American hackers etc
However by far whenever there is an hacker shooting through the walls, aimbotting that person more often than not a Brazilian not only identified by ping but also by clan name/IGN or language.
If it were not for these said players hacking most of the hacking problem would be solved.
Everyone can deal with the fact there will always be hackers but reduction would be great with some fix. -
i really agree with him i know what the mods will say about permissions and stuff but damn i cant stand br's , they always hack even if im like ok that one wasnt a hak last 30 sec of the games and oh look he was a hack.. i really agree with him do to SA what they did with EU oh and lets remember that mexico counts as NA heheh i dont wanna be blocked and forced to play with SA (@$#@%#%!!!) XD
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Immaturity would be to willfully put your fingers in your ears and to ignore a problem.
Being mature is to tackle and solve problems. Clearly your probably in denial and you are free to have a guided tour and you can post your findings.
immaturity would be to willingly blame one single group of people for certain problems, ive seen more QQers kiddies and nubs who insult us and hack from other countries than brasil.... so how am i putting my fingers in my ears and ignoring it? I dont ignore it but your findings clearly are not the same as what i get. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »immaturity would be to willingly blame one single group of people for certain problems
They make up the large part, ignorance is not only bliss but mature.Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »ive seen more QQers kiddies and nubs who insult us and hack from other countries than brasil....
Because you play UK servers I guess the same applies to Turks/Egys.Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »so how am i putting my fingers in my ears and ignoring it? I dont ignore it but your findings clearly are not the same as what i get.
I offered you a challenge you can come and find out or be willfully ignorant with fingers in both ears. Your choice, your opinion is irrelevant to the facts anyway. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »to be honest you bashing certain people is not improving the community its showing how immature it already is.
Newsflash, Nearly all the players in game behave way worse then this.
Insults and hack accusing.
Kicking anyone with less then 100 ping.
Defending the obvious hackers with more then 120+ ping.
Refusal to kick hackers with 120+ ping.
This behavior wasn't common intill after the SA players started flooding in. Before SA players came, Hackers were kicked and somewhat rare.
What would you have us do? Ignore the problem? Encourage them to hack more?
Nearly all the decent and good behaved players left in discussed a long time ago because of the SA players behavior.
Face it, this game was good and healthy before SA players flooded it.
We just want to get it back to what it once was, and since very few of the SA players show any sign of changing the only solution is to remove them.
If someone cheats and misbehaves in a game, you give them a warning.
If they continue to cheat and misbehave, you remove them from the game.
If they still continue to cheat and misbehave, you ban them from ever playing again.Kedaamikeda wrote: »Hacking is done by all nations, not just BR. But BRs are the most annoying, irritating, immature players of CF I will give you that. They cuss you in portuguese, they kick you, they cry in portuguese. Get rid of them and the CF gameplay will imporve a lot.
The main problem isn't that most hackers are from SA, the main problem is 90% of SA players refuse to kick the hackers and at the same time kick anyone with less then 100 ping.
When this game was mostly NA players, hackers were rare but still around.
Why were they rare? Because people KICKED them. With many players always kicking a hacker on sight, hackers weren't able to play and either stopped hacking or left the game.
With this mass of High ping players, nearly no one kicks the hackers anymore.
No one kicking hackers means hackers have free rain over the game. -
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Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »immaturity would be to willingly blame one single group of people for certain problems, ive seen more QQers kiddies and nubs who insult us and hack from other countries than brasil.... so how am i putting my fingers in my ears and ignoring it? I dont ignore it but your findings clearly are not the same as what i get.
Did you read what he said? He clearly said that there are other nation who hack other than Brazil. No where did he EVER blame BR's for everything and if so please tell me where. Instead of just sitting there pointlessly arguing over it do something about it. -
Newsflash, Nearly all the players in game behave way worse then this.
Insults and hack accusing.
Kicking anyone with less then 100 ping.
Defending the obvious hackers with more then 120+ ping.
Refusal to kick hackers with 120+ ping.
This behavior wasn't common intill after the SA players started flooding in. Before SA players came, Hackers were kicked and somewhat rare.
What would you have us do? Ignore the problem? Encourage them to hack more?
Nearly all the decent and good behaved players left in discussed a long time ago because of the SA players behavior.
Face it, this game was good and healthy before SA players flooded it.
We just want to get it back to what it once was, and since very few of the SA players show any sign of changing the only solution is to remove them.
If someone cheats and misbehaves in a game, you give them a warning.
If they continue to cheat and misbehave, you remove them from the game.
If they still continue to cheat and misbehave, you ban them from ever playing again.
Even though im not for banning a whole country from this game, i gotta agree with you..
I just feel sorry for all those nice and legit brs that dont do anything wrong.
Getting the license for SA was the worst thing z8 could do, they should better give it to another company and let them make a new CF SA or something like that and keep it with the BRs accounts like they do it with the Europeans. At least they wont be able to make new accs then and can have fun on BR CF where every player in the room hacks and they have fun killing and getting killed by hacks - maybe they're gonna see then how stupid it was to not kick the hackers or to hack by themselves. -
But what i dont check is, Why make z8 games that players in germany and austria etc. cant make new accounts? i mean, you think we were hacking? WRONG! i know that what i will say now is just a dream from me but, i want a hackfree Crossfire
in every 2nd Lobby i game are at least 1 or 2 hackers in... PLS rlly pls admins,Moderators and gamemasters(GM) do anything against hackers...
PS: Sorry for my bad english xD(I'm from Austria LoL) -
There were many german hackers aswell.Fr3akPlay3R wrote: »But what i dont check is, Why make z8 games that players in germany and austria etc. cant make new accounts? i mean, you think we were hacking? WRONG! i know that what i will say now is just a dream from me but, i want a hackfree Crossfire in every 2nd Lobby i game are at least 1 or 2 hackers in... PLS rlly pls admins,Moderators and gamemasters(GM) do anything against hackers...
PS: Sorry for my bad english xD(I'm from Austria LoL)
But the reason for restricting the Germans and other Europeans was, that another company took the license for these countrys - and there is a new CF for the European players. -
This topic has been posted before, and that is mostly the reason for some people not to be enthralled by the idea you have put forth, but the thing I would mostly like seen done, is ping restrictions when creating a room, also the ability for the host of the game to be able to insta-boot anyone like they can before and after matches, this could be abused, just like the kick voting already is, but could fix some things, possibly....maybe....probely not, lol...
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When you guys get banned Brazilians, most hackers will disappear. Right?
In this scenario, nations that use the hack, but are a minority, will be majority. Right?
In this line of thought, if you guys can not vote to kick the hackers that are left, will do what? More banishment?
I'm not lying when I say I was disappointed with the update server, which happened recently. He promised an update for hacks.
Contrary to what was said here, is not the first time that such a post appears. He is nothing more than a sum of all has always (ALWAYS) appear here in this forum.
I myself have professed these theories. I think after you build a server SA, we should be isolated from each other. Avoid future confusion.
You guys always apologize because the Brazilians legits. That they would be affected by the ideas of limitations or restrictions.
Excuses will not do anything.
If you take this idea of segregation as practiced, does not apologize.
We must think as a community united and plural. Not as a group that wants to control and one that must be controlled. -
They make up the large part, ignorance is not only bliss but mature.
Because you play UK servers I guess the same applies to Turks/Egys.
I offered you a challenge you can come and find out or be willfully ignorant with fingers in both ears. Your choice, your opinion is irrelevant to the facts anyway.
Pft facts? Ok then showq me the data you have recieved from z8game and g4box to proves that what you are saying is 'fact' thanks. And btw i do play american server now and again now that my ping is 110 again and your finding are still BS imo. And in the uk servers the turks and egys i know are actually great people... only certain few of them hack like people from ALL countries.Newsflash, Nearly all the players in game behave way worse then this.
Insults and hack accusing.
Kicking anyone with less then 100 ping.
Defending the obvious hackers with more then 120+ ping.
Refusal to kick hackers with 120+ ping.
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Ohh right because nearly all the other players in game behave worse means it doesnt matter if we bash people just a little bit? pfft wth are you guys on? -
Agreed, Ping cap entry once the SA servers come is the easiest, fastest, and cheapest answer to the problem.
The majority of hackers have 150+ ping with only a few with less then 100.
This game always had hackers but before SA players the hackers were usually kicked.
Now its High ping hackers defended by high ping players that kick low ping players because the high ping players can't play well at all.
the ping caps would effect legit players from austrailia, NZ, and other foriegn countries who have spent lots of money on ZP..
but for us in the US it would be awesome
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Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »Pft facts? Ok then showq me the data you have recieved from z8game and g4box to proves that what you are saying is 'fact' thanks. And btw i do play american server now and again now that my ping is 110 again and your finding are still BS imo. And in the uk servers the turks and egys i know are actually great people... only certain few of them hack like people from ALL countries.
Ohh right because nearly all the other players in game behave worse means it doesnt matter if we bash people just a little bit? pfft wth are you guys on?
So hypothetically, If you were playing in a soccer match and the most of the other team starting kicking you shins well cursing and insulting you for no other reason then that you got a goal you'd not bash them for being bad people?
I'm not going to be nice to people that have repeatively shown bad behavior over and over again. Very, very few have shown any sign of wanting to play by the rules. I see dozens of players each day hack accusing and kicking others for no justified reason. And nearly all the hackers I see have 150+ ping. And every time I try to kick them it gets denied for only me to get kicked instead.
They Hack accuse anyone that kills them, even if they were doing something stupid.
They insult constantly.
Kick anyone with less then 100 ping.
Any obvious hacker with 120+ ping they refuse to kick.
And they do make up the majority of hackers.
I waited patiently and tried to teach them since December now. I'm done being nice, I'm done caring what happens to them. All I want now is for them to be removed.
Z8 would never release info about the hackers or hacking situation other then say they are working on it. But if you want proof then simply write down the name and ping of every obvious hacker you see. I guarantee that once you hit 100 at least 80 of those names will have 150+ ping.TheLetterR wrote: »the ping caps would effect legit players from austrailia, NZ, and other foriegn countries who have spent lots of money on ZP..
but for us in the US it would be awesome
Maybe leave west coast open for them perhaps? I do feel bad for the Australians, they didn't do anything wrong. Still, I support ping cap servers.Confederado wrote: »When you guys get banned Brazilians, most hackers will disappear. Right?
In this scenario, nations that use the hack, but are a minority, will be majority. Right?
In this line of thought, if you guys can not vote to kick the hackers that are left, will do what? More banishment?
I'm not lying when I say I was disappointed with the update server, which happened recently. He promised an update for hacks.
Contrary to what was said here, is not the first time that such a post appears. He is nothing more than a sum of all has always (ALWAYS) appear here in this forum.
I myself have professed these theories. I think after you build a server SA, we should be isolated from each other. Avoid future confusion.
You guys always apologize because the Brazilians legits. That they would be affected by the ideas of limitations or restrictions.
Excuses will not do anything.
If you take this idea of segregation as practiced, does not apologize.
We must think as a community united and plural. Not as a group that wants to control and one that must be controlled.
Confederado, if the majority of the SA population actually wanted to play by the rules then I'd welcome them.
I've played this game for years, I've been through the good times and the bad times.
Even in the days when Suba was the Portal and we had no hack defense, hackers were kicked and most people actually tried to follow the rules.
It was at its best between July 2010 - November 2010.
Hackers were extremely rare back then.
Hackers were kicked if you did see one.
Kick requesting and abusing wasn't going on.
People showed sportsmanship and helped teach one another.
I just want the game to go back to what it was like then.
I've asked myself hundreds of times on how that could happen.
In the end I can only come up with 1 answer that will work.
The SA players have shown time and time again that they don't want to play by the rules.
X trap has shown that it can't keep up with the hack makers dedicated focus on making hacks.
Support has shown they can't deal with the massive amount of reports they get.
They only solution to bring down to manageable levels so support can get through the hack reports, Hinder the hack makers so X trap can be effective, and get it to the point where hackers are kicked...
Is too remove those that hack and those that refuse to kick hackers. permanently.
I rarely see good SA players like you, sad thing is your outnumbered by thousands of bad SA players. -
This thread is false.
Br's are one of the most people with sportmanship when it comes to eSports (electronic sports) , i know from 3rd person's that competitive crossfire in brazil is done on LAN's and outside of ESL's , br's are in fact very professional when ever comes to eSports..
next question.
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