Attention Pc-Builders!

since i am a hardware noob i need some input!

i feel it´s time for me to leave below-average-pre-built-ville and start something new....

just for gaming and video editing. a friend will build it for me and i will order from www.alternate.at

Mainboard

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-D3
Chip: AMD 990FX
4x PCIe16, SLI
Socket AM3+

CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (6x 2,8GHz)

GPU
NVIDIA GTX570 (1280MB) maybe a NVIDIA GTX580 (1536MB) if it makes sense.

RAM
16GB DDR3-1333

PSU
750W

CPU-Fan
Scythe Samurai ZZ


SSD
Kingston SSD NOW V100 2,5" SSD 64GB


thank you for your time/opinion/advice

PS: i don´t have any specific budget, just has to be reasonable..
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Comments

  • Everything looks fine, except that I would go with an Intel system. Intel CPUs are much faster than AMDs. I will recommend you get the following CPU and motherboard:

    Motherboard:
    GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3

    CPU:
    Intel i7-2600k

    Since you mentioned you want to do video editing, the 2600k will be a better fit for you. You can also look at the i5-2500k if you want to save money.

    Everything else looks fine.
  • Great Motherboard, however, personally I'd go for more raw CPU power since it's an AMD, go for a 1090T 3.2GHz, and scrap 4GB of that RAM, 16GB won't be fully utilized by any software or game right now.

    The GPU's are both top quality, whichever one you get, however if you wish to save more money, up to half the GPU price in fact, buy a 2GB AMD 6950, unlock the shader cores to put it on the same level as a 6970. Fantastic high-resolution recording GPU as it is though.

    That PSU'll be fine providing it has two 6-pin and it isn't some random brand. Never skimp on the PSU.

    I'd also buy a cheap 7200RPM 750GB HDD if you're planing on mass recording high resolution games.

    Good luck with the build Tool.
  • How much would this cost in total? If it's worth it, I'll probably make on myself... Also a small out-line of recommended parts would be helpful too..
  • Everything looks fine, except that I would go with an Intel system. Intel CPUs are much faster than AMDs. I will recommend you get the following CPU and motherboard:

    Motherboard:
    GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3

    CPU:
    Intel i7-2600k

    Since you mentioned you want to do video editing, the 2600k will be a better fit for you. You can also look at the i5-2500k if you want to save money.

    Everything else looks fine.

    thank you for the reply. i am not sure, up to this point i only had AMD systems and
    i was quite happy with them. i want it to be a beast. not as in uberbeast, but you get the idea. still not sure
    DatCookz wrote: »
    Great Motherboard, however, personally I'd go for more raw CPU power since it's an AMD, go for a 1090T 3.2GHz, and scrap 4GB of that RAM, 16GB won't be fully utilized by any software or game right now.

    The GPU's are both top quality, whichever one you get, however if you wish to save more money, up to half the GPU price in fact, buy a 2GB AMD 6950, unlock the shader cores to put it on the same level as a 6970. Fantastic high-resolution recording GPU as it is though.

    That PSU'll be fine providing it has two 6-pin and it isn't some random brand. Never skimp on the PSU.

    I'd also buy a cheap 7200RPM 750GB HDD if you're planing on mass recording high resolution games.

    Good luck with the build Tool.


    thanks also for that, cookz. was hoping for your opinion. before i read your replies i changed the setup a bit.
    take a quick look please.

    CPU AM3
    AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
    6x 2800 MHz, 6x 512 kByte, 6144 kByte, Thuban

    MB
    Mainboards AM3+
    GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
    AMD 990FX, ATX, 4x PCIe x16, AM3+

    GPU
    Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570, 1280 MB, 320 Bit, PCIe 2.0 x16

    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro M700 700 Watt, ATX 2.03, EPS, ATX12V 2.3, 9 , 5

    RAM
    DDR3-1333
    Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1333 Kit 8192 MB, CL9 9-9-24, 2, PC3 10600

    Solid State Drive 2,5 Zoll SATA
    Kingston SSDNow V100 2,5" SSD 64 GB 64 GB, 250 / 145 MB/s,

    CPU Cooler Fan
    Scythe Mugen 3



    what would you do btw? intel system? also i heard the phenom card is pretty decent in its price range. i would not mind if it was a better GPU, if that makes sense. if you had to build a rig for lets say something between 1k and 1,5k? what would that look like? also i d rather not want to edit anything myself, beef up cpu and stuff >). oh and the video editing will be more like RL Full HD videos. Family reunions, Trips with friends and that stuff. of course i ll record gameplay vids now and then too. thanks again for your time and advice.
    vMiami wrote: »
    How much would this cost in total? If it's worth it, I'll probably make on myself... Also a small out-line of recommended parts would be helpful too..


    the system in my initial post was just below 1k EURO. but i changed it already as you can see above.


    @MrJulmust i will rather go with something more.....black. but thanks!
  • In games the i3 2100 can outperform the AMD 6 core.

    In EVERYTHING the i5 can outperform the AMD 6 core.

    It's a bit pointless to go with an AMD in that price range.

    And yeah tool I'm sure that cookz would agree with an intel system.
  • t0oIshed wrote: »
    @MrJulmust i will rather go with something more.....black. but thanks!

    Do you want a custom case? Maybe a clean, black case with some blue sleeve and some dim white lighting...


    ~_^
  • change the CPU and MoBo for 2500k not too much more expensive and you will get more power
  • DatMuffin wrote: »
    In games the i3 2100 can outperform the AMD 6 core.

    In EVERYTHING the i5 can outperform the AMD 6 core.

    It's a bit pointless to go with an AMD in that price range.

    And yeah tool I'm sure that cookz would agree with an intel system.
    That's my opinion.

    Your PSU is oversized.
    This one fits:
    be quiet! Straight Power E8 CM 580W

    The Gigabyte mainboards use an old BIOS version. This means that new technologies may not be supported. Windows 8 for example needs an UEFI BIOS. When you choose an Intel system take this one instead:
    Asrock Z86 Pro3

    Take one of thse CPUs when you go with Intel:
    i5 2500
    i7 2600k

    The SSD you chose is okay. When you want to be sure to have the best one you should choose this one:
    crucial m4 64GB

    The rest is okay :)

    Ah, before I forget. Don't order on www.Alternate.at - it is pretty expensive. If available in your country choose www.hardwareversand.de
    It is a good shop with a good reputation. I only had good experiences with it.
  • DatMuffin wrote: »
    In games the i3 2100 can outperform the AMD 6 core.

    In EVERYTHING the i5 can outperform the AMD 6 core.

    It's a bit pointless to go with an AMD in that price range.

    And yeah tool I'm sure that cookz would agree with an intel system.

    hmm soo how much more coins for a nice intel system? i am not sure. my current pc is kind of a green computer. very low energy, so i ll just use the new one for gaming.
    thanks to the muffin

    MrJulmust wrote: »
    Do you want a custom case? Maybe a clean, black case with some blue sleeve and some dim white lighting...


    ~_^

    actually if i were to create a case it would be piano lacquerish to match my other interior.
    no fancy lights or glowing stuff for me >)
  • I'd always recommend an Intel based build over AMD. And Moof knows of my love for the 2500k ;)

    I'll take a look around and find a decent euro build after I've had some dinnrar.
    Smagjus wrote: »
    Your PSU is oversized.
    This one fits:
    be quiet! Straight Power E8 CM 580W

    That PSU lacks the necessary wattage required for the 570 or 580.
  • 580 watts? Are you insane?

    An Intel build won't be that much more expensive - the performance gain will be WELL worth it.
  • t0oIshed wrote: »
    actually if i were to create a case it would be piano lacquerish to match my other interior.
    no fancy lights or glowing stuff for me >)

    Something like this wouldn't fit you?

    :)

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  • change the CPU and MoBo for 2500k not too much more expensive and you will get more power

    will do i think.
    Smagjus wrote: »
    That's my opinion.

    Your PSU is oversized.
    This one fits:
    be quiet! Straight Power E8 CM 580W

    The Gigabyte mainboards use an old BIOS version. This means that new technologies may not be supported. Windows 8 for example needs an UEFI BIOS. When you choose an Intel system take this one instead:
    Asrock Z86 Pro3

    Take one of thse CPUs when you go with Intel:
    i5 2500
    i7 2600k

    The SSD you chose is okay. When you want to be sure to have the best one you should choose this one:
    crucial m4 64GB

    The rest is okay :)

    Ah, before I forget. Don't order on www.Alternate.at - it is pretty expensive. If available in your country choose www.hardwareversand.de
    It is a good shop with a good reputation. I only had good experiences with it.

    thinking about the i7 or the like. as for alternate being a little more expensive..
    i want to
    pick up all the parts at the local shop. i really do not want them to be
    shipped/kicked around (more than they ve been kicked around already, maybe >( ). i compared the prices and for most parts
    its just about 2 euro more. i do not mind that much. i ll check out
    that ssd and for psu i ll get more power i think. anyways, danke >)
    DatCookz wrote: »
    I'd always recommend an Intel based build over AMD.
    And Moof knows of my love for the 2500k ;)

    I'll take a look around and find a decent euro build after I've had some dinnrar.


    oki thanks alot and enjoy whatever you are having for dinner!

    MrJulmust wrote: »
    Something like this wouldn't fit you?

    :)

    lcOXT.png

    2.jpg?t=gallery&k=2b25cf73

    3.jpg?t=gallery&k=584b455f

    i am not exactly a PC enthusiast so pictures look nice and all but actually i do not really care what the inside of my computer looks like as long as everything is in place and runs smooth >).
  • t0oIshed wrote: »
    i am not exactly a PC enthusiast so pictures look nice and all but actually i do not really care what the inside of my computer looks like as long as everything is in place and runs smooth >).

    Lol ok. I was just looking for some motivation to finish another project. >.>
  • lol 16gb .

    i ll have 8 as long as there is no real difference between 16GB and 8GB when rendering
    2 hours of 1080i material in adobe premiere.
  • DatCookz wrote: »
    That PSU lacks the necessary wattage required for the 570 or 580.
    DatMuffin wrote: »
    580 watts? Are you insane?
    580W is enough when you don't use a noname PSU. When you look up some benchmarks for the 580 GTX the testsystems also use 580W or 600W PSUs together with an overclocked quadcore CPU.
    lol 16gb .
    I just noticed too. Everything over 8 GB isn't necessairy as long as you do not plan to run several virtual machines.
  • 16gb is too low man, go for 32 at least.
    teehee .
  • Smagjus wrote: »
    580W is enough when you don't use a noname PSU. When you look up some benchmarks for the 580 GTX the testsystems also use 580W or 600W PSUs together with an overclocked quadcore CPU.

    I just noticed too. Everything over 8 GB isn't necessairy as long as you do not plan to run several virtual machines.

    I only use name brand high quality PSU's. Go ahead and put a 580 and an i7 2600k overclocked on a 580 watt. It might run but you are straining the f*ck out of it. It is going to burn out incredibly fast, and you are putting your hardware at risk.
  • DatMoofz wrote: »
    I only use name brand high quality PSU's. Go ahead and put a 580 and an i7 2600k overclocked on a 580 watt. It might run but you are straining the f*ck out of it. It is going to burn out incredibly fast, and you are putting your hardware at risk.
    True dat. But...
    t0oIshed wrote: »
    since i am a hardware noob i need some input!
    Do you really think someone who says that he/she is a "hardware noob" will overclock his/her CPU? ;)
  • Smagjus wrote: »
    True dat. But...

    Do you really think someone who says that he/she is a "hardware noob" will overclock his/her CPU? ;)

    She might decide to do it later on.

    And there's no downside to having a better PSU.
    Maybe she wants to put in another card in a few years.
  • Smagjus wrote: »
    True dat. But...

    Do you really think someone who says that he/she is a "hardware noob" will overclock his/her CPU? ;)

    It doesn't matter. That is too much for a 580 watt to handle for extended periods of time, I'm sure she will be using this PC for several years. You are going to kill that PSU in a year or two.
  • Smagjus wrote: »
    True dat. But...

    Do you really think someone who says that he/she is a "hardware noob" will overclock his/her CPU? ;)

    probably not. he just said that there is the option to do so. someone might as well do it for me. but like i said, i intend not to overclock anything.
    DatMoofz wrote: »
    It doesn't matter. That is too much for a 580 watt to handle for extended periods of time, I'm sure she will be using this PC for several years. You are going to kill that PSU in a year or two.

    yes. i dont get how this is such a big deal. i ll just pick the one with more wattage.
  • DatMoofz wrote: »
    It doesn't matter. That is too much for a 580 watt to handle for extended periods of time, I'm sure she will be using this PC for several years. You are going to kill that PSU in a year or two.
    Well okay. I have never heard any complaints regarding this but maybe you have made experiences that I lack. And MrJulmust also got his point.

    I take my 580W recommendation back. Go with the 700W PSU.
    t0oIshed wrote: »
    yes. i dont get how this is such a big deal.
    Well, I myself made negative expierences with oversized PSUs. I bought a 750W PSU several years ago because I thought that I could upgrade in the future and the new hardware would need more energy.

    Now I have a pc that uses half of the energy but got the trippled performance. I bought a 600W PSU now cause of the higher efficiency. This developement keeps going. For 2018 there are CPUs planned that will only use 2W under load. The first engineering samples work with a small solar cell.
  • Motherboard:
    Gigabyte H67M-UD2H-B3

    CPU:
    Intel Sandybridge i5 2500k Unlocked 3.30GHz

    CPU Fan:
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Revision 2. You won't need to buy thermal paste with that, it comes already applied.

    GPU:
    AMD VTX3D 6950 2GB

    RAM:
    8GB G****ill DDR3 RipjawsX Series for Sandybridge

    PSU:
    OCZ 750w ZS Series

    SSD/HDD:
    OCZ Onyx 64GB SSD
    Samsung 1TB HDD

    Case:
    Thermaltake VK90001N2Z Element T

    Build off the top of my head, if you want power and a little less energy consumption.
    You could use a lower wattage PSU if you were to go with that 6950, however I'd still take the 750w to keep your future upgrade options open.
    You could also find those prices much cheaper if you looked around, I used Amazon as a reference.
  • You would take the 1 tb Samsung over Raid 0 Caviar blacks? Disappointed.
  • DatMoofz wrote: »
    You would take the 1 tb Samsung over Raid 0 Caviar blacks? Disappointed.

    I just got him a cheapo 1TB for mass storage purposes.

    Besides, how much caviar we consume daily, it gets tiresome.