Non hackers getting kicked for hacking!

An issue which Ive been dealing with ever since I been playing CF practically. I know that there are a lot of loser hackers that play and ruin this game but even when I create my own room I get accused of hacking allllll the time and get kicked from my own room! Frequently!! And I dont use any cheats or hacks and never have - PERIOD.

There are some legitimately good players that can get 20-30 kills or more in a single labs match without having to resort to hacks and cheats and Im one of em and it just really sucks to be very good at something and get wrongfully accused of cheating and penalized and kicked from your own room all the damn time. I do a damn fine job of monitoring things and trying to provide the best gaming environment for the players in my room. Including actualy looking out for the real hackers and spammers and just all around punks.

Perhaps you could make it so that players can somehow earn a non hackers status so they can create their own rooms and who are legit, good and honest room hosts and not have to worry about getting wrongfully kicked. Or simply just make it so room hosts cant get kicked period. If a room host is hacking then the other players dont have to stay there and can go elsewhere.

There are enough decent, honest and legit players that create their own rooms that this wouldnt present a problem I believe. I dont think there would be an unreasonably large amount of rooms hosted by hackers.

Ok so theres my thoughts. Thankyou for an otherwise fun game and for all the hard work you guys put into it - best regards.
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  • Stryker its me Dr.Tran. Calm Down. Everyone gets kicked. Welcome to the club
  • dude this shuldnt be a suggestion...andddd..i get kicked from a lot of games cuz im good...deal with it man..not our faults noobs suck..=.="..just find a game with yur friends or clan mates...prevents kick a lot :D
  • Hey Tran ( : and I am and was clam lol, just passionate about it and to the poster before this one - yes it most certainly should be a suggestion and I do believe there are feasible ways to go about it.

    If youre the kind of person that would rather just hang back and not do anything about crap that bothers you, then good for you, thats fine, thats your prerogative.

    However lots of examples in history show us that those that take a stand and strive for a change can right the wrongs. And sure this isnt all that important but to myself and other legit non hacker players that enjoy this game and that spend a significant amount of their time with this game, its important enough. AND this is after all the suggestion board...And yeah getting together with friends and clans is a good idea but so is mine I believe.

    Both you guys are saying just deal with it but if there can be an amicable solution found then really why should legit players have to deal with it? Answer - they shouldnt, not if theres a solution and I believe there has to be.

    Example? As I said I personally think that just make it universal that anyone who makes a room and is host cannot be kicked. I dont think there would be an over abundance of rooms chock full of hacker hosts. And again for any that truly are unfair and hackers, the other players can find other rooms.

    And if Im wrong about that then make it so that only the higher/highest ranked players can make rooms without the option of having able to get kicked. I dont think most of the very top ranked players can afford to use their accounts to hack, so prolly there would be very few incidents of unkickable room hosts hacking.

    Thats just one thought, I have a few others but Im not very inclined to a lot of the technological specifics and variables that would be important to consider in this matter. Food for thought though. Really just hoping anyone else with some "constructive" thoughts can chime in on this and share some ideas too.
  • This game is getting worse every day. is my opinion, full of hacker, glitchers, all kind of things. Yesterday i was doing a great score (for me)23-4, and guess what, i was kicked by hacking but i dont hack. And the most annoying thing is that the the guys qho hack dont get kicked, why??, the team need tahem to him..
  • ya big issue i was play'n gm as ghost and i got kicked because my score was 8-0
    im good at knife'n but they kik me for hacking

    i hate the people who cant tell skill from hacks they need mittens taped on there hands so they cant play or complain
  • meh numbers of hackers are always exaggerated

    i know lots of people start hacking when they see a hacker (obvious one :speed ,guns and stuff like that)
    because they feel cool then >.>

    but in times like now there are barely any hackers

    the kids playing this game are just hacker paranoia ,because there are no hackers at the moment evrything thats getting a higher K/D then 2 is being kicked
  • what do you meen "no hackers"?!?!?
    do you play ghost mode as a ghost?
    more than half of the gm games i play i keep getting ramdomly headshoted from a distence with no spray at all when im not moving or getting knifed from behind when im also not moving or a people manage to magicly land a grenade at my feet every round.
    i used to get 3-1 kdr on gm as ghost now it getting harder and harder to play because of these "lucky shots"
    i do believe alot of people called hackers are not but there is still alot of hackers out there and its starting to make me not like cf as much.
  • I get kicked from room where there is clan leaders like the leader of FIFTH, shes a noob. I also get kicked from rooms where there's noob with high rank, they think because they have higher ranks, they are better....Bu Eh, Welcome to the club.
  • what do you meen "no hackers"?!?!?
    do you play ghost mode as a ghost?
    more than half of the gm games i play i keep getting ramdomly headshoted from a distence with no spray at all when im not moving or getting knifed from behind when im also not moving or a people manage to magicly land a grenade at my feet every round.
    i used to get 3-1 kdr on gm as ghost now it getting harder and harder to play because of these "lucky shots"
    i do believe alot of people called hackers are not but there is still alot of hackers out there and its starting to make me not like cf as much.

    then you keep running into the wrong rooms

    or someone saw you walk there/heared breath
    (i was not in the room so i dont know the situation)

    i think ill just remove the nade from my bag because even when i trow it in a ghosts direction i get QQ >.>
  • RaMmEr1 wrote: »
    then you keep running into the wrong rooms

    or someone saw you walk there/heared breath
    (i was not in the room so i dont know the situation)

    i think ill just remove the nade from my bag because even when i trow it in a ghosts direction i get QQ >.>

    this is why i keep smokes and flashes for GM
  • i know what u guys mean about the kicking but we just gotta deal with it. if they say we hack then they ca replay it, and try to ban us but we all know not possible unless u hack.
  • these happens to me every single day.. that is why i am thinking leave CF..
  • yeah i get kicked alot too for hacking, specially in ghost mode cause I have like 40 doller head phones that hear everything and i pre fire around and get them eventually. But then you get the real hackor that says they heard breath and headshots you in the first shot. So many people cant hear the breath.
  • Perhaps you could make it so that players can somehow earn a non hackers status

    I think that is a GREAT idea. This should seriously be looked at. The only problem I can see is people getting the non hacker status and then hacking after



    IDK how to multi quote but KamakaziNazi said this:

    what do you meen "no hackers"?!?!?
    do you play ghost mode as a ghost?
    more than half of the gm games i play i keep getting ramdomly headshoted from a distence with no spray at all when im not moving or getting knifed from behind when im also not moving or a people manage to magicly land a grenade at my feet every round.
    i used to get 3-1 kdr on gm as ghost now it getting harder and harder to play because of these "lucky shots"
    i do believe alot of people called hackers are not but there is still alot of hackers out there and its starting to make me not like cf as much.


    if it's half of the games you are either playing with the same people every time or exaggerating, because rarely are there GR hackers. I get called a hacker and kicked nearly every GM game I play when I'm GR, from scores like 25-3 or around there. (yeah, it's incredibly easy to get those scores if you have a headset)
  • im ****ed off as hell about this i ussually get kiked 5 times a night
    news flash ur not that great just cause i kill you dont mean i hack
    u stab me then i turn around and shoot you whats so haacking about that also hack should not be sensoered
  • im ****ed off as hell about this i ussually get kiked 5 times a night
    news flash ur not that great just cause i kill you dont mean i hack
    u stab me then i turn around and shoot you whats so haacking about that also hack should not be sensoered
    "Hack" isn't censored and suit yourself regarding the hackusations if you're a member of 300 SPARTA.
  • im ****ed off as hell about this i ussually get kiked 5 times a night
    news flash ur not that great just cause i kill you dont mean i hack
    u stab me then i turn around and shoot you whats so haacking about that also hack should not be sensoered
    "Hack" isn't censored and suit yourself regarding the hackusations if you're a member of 300 SPARTA.
  • im ****ed off as hell about this i ussually get kiked 5 times a night
    news flash ur not that great just cause i kill you dont mean i hack
    u stab me then i turn around and shoot you whats so haacking about that also hack should not be sensoered
    "Hack" isn't censored and suit yourself regarding the hackusations if you're a member of 300 SPARTA.
  • Even my account [L][O][V][E] got banned for no reason. If i am good doesnt mean i hack.. D:
    i dont know what to do D:
  • vanwilder4 wrote: »
    Even my account [L][O][V][E] got banned for no reason. If i am good doesnt mean i hack.. D:
    i dont know what to do D:
    Accounts don't get banned for being good.
  • im ****ed off as hell about this i ussually get kiked 5 times a night
    news flash ur not that great just cause i kill you dont mean i hack
    u stab me then i turn around and shoot you whats so haacking about that also hack should not be sensoered
    "Hack" isn't censored and suit yourself regarding the hackusations if you're a member of 300 SPARTA.
  • Well good to see we got a dialogue started here but I think we digress from the main purpose of this thread. To possibly find a solution to this problem which obviously plagues a significant population of the crossfire community.

    Its not really a matter of if the real hackers are getting kicked or not. Its more the issue of non hackers who are truly good and very skilled players not being able to truly shine and do their thing and have fun doing it without being chastised and wrongfully kicked so often.

    Yes there are a lot of kids that play this game who are inexperienced, immature and are just too quick to cry out - HACKER. Yes there are even adults who are just new to the game or inexperienced, otherwise known as noobs lol, that falsly accuse only cuz they dont understand the finer details of game play.

    I was one of those when I first started. I remember playing BL, getting ganked so easily while holding perfectly still thinking - WTF? Id ask how you see me? Which is a question still often asked. Theyd respond - BREATHING. And Id think yeah right you hacker...only cuz I knew there were in fact a lot of hackers and I thought it was just an excuse. Now I know better. Unfortunatly far too many players dont. New players, kids and the ones in between; who lets face it could use a few more brain cells. Or even the punks who do know that are just troublemakers. It ruins the game far too often for the rest of us.

    But anyway the point is that for all us vets that enjoy this game, that have learned by trial and error, who have invested countless hours and have certain maps practically memorized lol, ( ; we are very good and we deserve the chance to play just as much as anyone else without having to worry about doing too good. And I think something should and could be done about this if enough people want to see it happen and are willing to take an active role in it. Are you one of these people? Then you can start by posting your "constructive" thoughts, Ideas and opinions here. ( :

    Ive found myself sometimes thinking maybe I should start purposely doing badly just to avoid getting kicked. But then I tell myself - NO WAY. Im not gonna pull any punches. For me it defeats the purpose of this game. Which is to have fun and to pit your skills against that of other players and see what you can do and what you really got. And how good you really are and can be.

    I still think my idea about allowing only the highest ranked players to be non kickable room hosts is a good idea. They are obviously skilled players, not noobs, can spot the real hackers and punks (I hate punks lol) much easier and are in a much better and appropriate position to fill that role. And chances are, most of these high ranked players wouldnt have made it that far to begin with if they made a practice of using hacks on that account. And again with such a high rank im sure at least 80% or more of that player base just wouldnt actually ever risk using any hacks cuz eventually it would catch up with them and theyd know it so they wouldnt risk it. And for the few that do...GOOD RIDDANCE.

    One thing Ive found myself saying many times, Ill say it here. The one thing I hate worse than hackers, is getting falsly accused of hacking and kicked. It just sucks pure and simple, so again anyone that wants to add to my ideas or add their own, by all means please do so.
  • got to figure lot of kids play this game so got alot of crying sissies i get called a hack alot im not a good player like the ones have 30,000+ more kills then deaths but i do have over 4,000 more kills then deaths k/d ratio of 1.2.

    i try do best i can all i get for it being called a hack sometimes after game is over i get kicked if the one was crying is running it.

    getting kicked cause someone is a sissy never going to change this game is full of them i just figure if there being a cry baby i must be doing something right lol.
  • I get kicked all the time. I don't even hack they call me a hacker all the time. Why would I hack on an account that I put 70$ in to? I say stop with the kicking if some one is hacking then just get out of the room. The kicking is starting to **** me off. I jumped off a top of a box and got called a fly hacker. I seen some one on my team using aimbot in S&D after I got killed he would shot some one then do a 180 with out knowing the guy is there and kill him and I get kicked. I really think this game fails. But thats what you get for using the HS that you do. I say get the **** combat arms uses I never see hackers at all. Just vip hackers but they get D/Ced after like 5 mins.
  • Still looking for some constructive thoughts, opinions and ideas on this from some more of the CF community........
  • Ok Im really ****ed right now. I can usually maintain my composure and even now I am going to refrain from REEEEALLY saying how I feel, but seriously enough is enough.

    The last 2 days Ive played for several hours each day and at least 50% of that time has been a complete waste of my time. Meaning Ive gotten kicked at least half of the time Ive spent playing during the middle of a game. What for? What else - HACKING. Which again despite what some of these pea-brained morons think, I dont do and never have.

    To any of you nay-sayers that might come along to share your negative criticisms; YES I realize this is a free game...for most players and yes I dont have to play the game, but I want to as I enjoy it - usually. And if youre going to distribute a product free or not, why not make it as accommodating and enjoyable to the consumer as possible????? And I wont go any further on the this subject other to mention even though this game is marketed as free dont think for a second they still arnt making a nice profit off this game in other ways. One of those being all the people that buy zp points.

    But really why I wanted to post here again is to say im rather disappointed in the lack of again; heres that word - CONSTRUCTIVE feedback. Especially about my idea about making it so only the highest ranked players can be non kickable room hosts. I still think thats an excellent idea. I make my own rooms all the time and Im so damn sick and tired of getting kicked from my own room when the only thing im guilty of is being is a skilled player and also playing with some very short and narrow minded individuals who cant see past their own ignorance and idiocy and who would rather just vote kick me and press f11. SO again enough is enough.

    Z8 - PLEASE take my suggestion under strong consideration. Again I think its an excellent idea. For anyone that doesnt think so or once again has any constructive feedback to offer by all means please say so.

    I know Im not the only one that plays this game that has to deal with this on daily basis while playing this game - not by far. And I dont believe Im the only one that cares enough about this particular subject to take the time to voice their opinions and throw some suggestions out there. SO again Im really just hoping some other reasonably intelligent players will come along, read this and offer their thoughts as well. On my suggestions and their own as well.
  • once i got kick cuz i spray and got a head shot and my score was 1-5 that was my worst ghost match ever and i got kicked :confused:
  • I must admit this is a subject close to my heart as I rarely go a day without being called a hacker and various other things (often to do with my mother). Personally I think it would be nice to be able to give a little more power to the room host during a game and if at all possible add a simple ranking system where others can give you a score on how good you are at hosting/kicking people when they need to be kicked etc. I don't know if it would work due to the high number of immature people in the game but if people could see your "reputation" as a host before joining then they would know it's a good chance they will be coming in to a fair game.
  • Johny, I think thats an excellent idea and you do make a good point however, about the high number of immature people too; which there does often times seem to be an over abundance of for sure. And yeah the good ol your mother this and your mother that comments abound lol.

    IDK, I think that perhaps something like that would just have to be done on a trial and error basis ultimately cuz yeah who knows, there are so many idiots and immature people who, with that type of system would either just screw it up or it might be balanced out ok in the end. Like if they had a simple rating system of 1-10. 1 being the lowest score and 10 being the highest. And only those players that made it to the end of the game could vote.

    In any event I appreciate seeing some more ideas. ( :

    So what about my idea - allowing only the highest ranked members to be able to be non kickable room hosts? I really think that would seriously alleviate a lot of the frustration for most legit players who are constantly getting wrongfully kicked all the time.

    It would give the player a sense of at least having a light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak and theyd know that eventually they wouldnt have to worry about it anymore and if anything would give them an added incentive for reaching that high rank.

    Heres a quick recap in case any newcomers dont want to read through all the other posts here:

    Allow only the highest ranked players to be able to make their own rooms where they cannot be kicked by any of the other players. And yes even perhaps give them a certain amount of free immediate kicks. So if someone comes along who they know is a trouble maker or hacker they can just kick them without even having to vote.

    These high ranked players are obviously very familiar with the game. It would be very unlikely that they use hacks because they wouldnt want to jeopardize their account and have it banned. And it is unlikely that they made a practice of using hacks as they leveled up because the chances are they would have gotten reported and busted to begin with, before they could even make it to that rank.

    And thinking about it. I really dont recall ever seeing hardly any instances of the highest ranked players being accused of cheating and I cant recall ever seeing or thinking of any high ranked players using cheats and hacks. If I have, it has been very far and few in between. Again, if id have to put a number on it, I would estimate that at least 80% of that player base who would be non kickable room hosts would be legit and fair and wouldnt hack. And I think thats being conservative actually.

    Taking all these factors into consideration, I really cant see any flaws with this type of system period. I can only see so many positive possibilities here and I really think this is something that would work. But of course Im open to anyone who can see any problems and would want to critique. Id really like to hear more opinions on this, both for and against.