Ever consider switching...
to a different hack detecting system? Not really sure what other past discussion have come up with but I used to play gunzonline and in iGunz(beta) they used xtrap until naGunz(ijji.com) opened and then they started using GameGuard.
With xtrap in igunz there were many hacks (Like in crossfire) but when gameguard came into play you barely saw hackers in ijjigunz.
This has probably been suggested a lot, but why not? I know it's more complicated to switching, maybe you guys signed a contract or w/e but just consider it.
With xtrap in igunz there were many hacks (Like in crossfire) but when gameguard came into play you barely saw hackers in ijjigunz.
This has probably been suggested a lot, but why not? I know it's more complicated to switching, maybe you guys signed a contract or w/e but just consider it.
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to a different hack detecting system? Not really sure what other past discussion have come up with but I used to play gunzonline and in iGunz(beta) they used xtrap until naGunz(ijji.com) opened and then they started using GameGuard.
With xtrap in igunz there were many hacks (Like in crossfire) but when gameguard came into play you barely saw hackers in ijjigunz.
This has probably been suggested a lot, but why not? I know it's more complicated to switching, maybe you guys signed a contract or w/e but just consider it.
Gameguard was 10x worse than xtrap. Xtrap was so easy to bypass, it was as simple as deleting a file on your computer. And xfire auto-bans, unlike GameGuard. -
Its not like Z8 would publicly announce "yes, we're considering dropping this hundredthousand dollar contract with XTrap (btw now you know, xtrap!) to teach another random company from scratch".
I've never understood why people think they're entitled to confidential company information just because they make a forum thread..
Anyway.
GameGuard did a horrible job with Crossfire so they were dropped.
If they're doing a better job with Gunz or whatever its called, good for them.
That does not mean they'd be awesome if they got another chance here - logic dictates that they'd do just as bad. -
Its not like Z8 would publicly announce "yes, we're considering dropping this hundredthousand dollar contract with XTrap (btw now you know, xtrap!) to teach another random company from scratch".
I've never understood why people think they're entitled to confidential company information just because they make a forum thread..
Anyway.
GameGuard did a horrible job with Crossfire so they were dropped.
If they're doing a better job with Gunz or whatever its called, good for them.
That does not mean they'd be awesome if they got another chance here - logic dictates that they'd do just as bad.
True after all.. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result... I don't expect GG to do any better with this game. -
pretty sure gunz got shut down for a while because of so many hacks. i played it a few days ago and there's still a ****load of hacks in it with gameguard.
but i heard ava is doing okay with gameguard.
anyway xtrap and gameguard both are/were just terrible (for CF). i'd say 2 more months of this and its time for a change. -
I love people that don't bother to read the entire thread, especially when it's not even a page long.xtrapfever wrote: »pretty sure gunz got shut down for a while because of so many hacks. i played it a few days ago and there's still a ****load of hacks in it with gameguard.
but i heard ava is doing okay with gameguard.
anyway xtrap and gameguard both are/were just terrible (for CF). i'd say 2 more months of this and its time for a change.
X-trap from January-April 2011 was BRILLIANT.. They always seem to get into these slums. It's just an up-and-down situation. -
Well two years ago, we never had that many hackers with GameGuard.
Yes we had hacking ghost with weapons, that just made the game some what fair.
A lot of glitchers, and throwing knife hacks. I can live with the way it was.
But we never had this many hackers, as we did before. Before I could play 20 games, and only see 2 or 3 hackers that night. Now it's 2 or 5 hackers per room. (BR's)
And on top of all this, all the QQing we have now. I was never called a hacker before, or having someone kick me because I was not a BR. Or someone calling me a farmer, or not kicking hackers out of the game. Oh, by the way. BR's will not kick Brother BR's, even if they are Hacking in the game......some kind of BR code.
Yes GG sucked, but XTap sucks the big one! It is 100x worse now. Before you could play, now to can't. -
I love people that don't bother to read the entire thread, especially when it's not even a page long.
X-trap from January-April 2011 was BRILLIANT.. They always seem to get into these slums. It's just an up-and-down situation.
sorry i don't have that much free time. and i don't care what people have to say since most of the people here are under 18.
4 months of unplayable gameplay isn't a 'slum'. it's a failure anti-cheat. -
The state of the game is generally the same as when it was with GameGaurd.Well two years ago, we never had that many hackers with GameGuard.
Yes we had hacking ghost with weapons, that just made the game some what fair.
A lot of glitchers, and throwing knife hacks. I can live with the way it was.
But we never had this many hackers, as we did before. Before I could play 20 games, and only see 2 or 3 hackers that night. Now it's 2 or 5 hackers per room. (BR's)
And on top of all this, all the QQing we have now. I was never called a hacker before, or having someone kick me because I was not a BR. Or someone calling me a farmer, or not kicking hackers out of the game. Oh, by the way. BR's will not kick Brother BR's, even if they are Hacking in the game......some kind of BR code.
Yes GG sucked, but XTap sucks the big one! It is 100x worse now. Before you could play, now to can't.
The cheats are just as accessible now compared to when we had GameGaurd, the population of hackers has just risen.
And you are saying cheating made Ghost Mode fair? I don't think you should even be in this discussion. -
Why bother stirring something up if you don't care to read?xtrapfever wrote: »sorry i don't have that much free time. and i don't care what people have to say since most of the people here are under 18.
4 months of unplayable gameplay isn't a 'slum'. it's a failure anti-cheat.
And calling it a slum was for lack of a better word. You know you aren't forced to play this game. If you aren't satisfied with it, you can leave. -
The cheater to legitimate player ratio is probably still the same.Well two years ago, we never had that many hackers with GameGuard.
Yes we had hacking ghost with weapons, that just made the game some what fair.
A lot of glitchers, and throwing knife hacks. I can live with the way it was.
But we never had this many hackers, as we did before. Before I could play 20 games, and only see 2 or 3 hackers that night. Now it's 2 or 5 hackers per room. (BR's)
And on top of all this, all the QQing we have now. I was never called a hacker before, or having someone kick me because I was not a BR. Or someone calling me a farmer, or not kicking hackers out of the game. Oh, by the way. BR's will not kick Brother BR's, even if they are Hacking in the game......some kind of BR code.
Yes GG sucked, but XTap sucks the big one! It is 100x worse now. Before you could play, now to can't.
The difference is in the amount of each: This game has grown extremely big.
And of course, most cheaters these days cheat for an hour and then they're banned by the automatic system, which we didn't have back then.
People are very impatient, the effects of the region block hasn't really shown yet, but it will. -
Well two years ago, we never had that many hackers with GameGuard.
Yes we had hacking ghost with weapons, that just made the game some what fair.
A lot of glitchers, and throwing knife hacks. I can live with the way it was.
But we never had this many hackers, as we did before. Before I could play 20 games, and only see 2 or 3 hackers that night. Now it's 2 or 5 hackers per room. (BR's)
And on top of all this, all the QQing we have now. I was never called a hacker before, or having someone kick me because I was not a BR. Or someone calling me a farmer, or not kicking hackers out of the game. Oh, by the way. BR's will not kick Brother BR's, even if they are Hacking in the game......some kind of BR code.
Yes GG sucked, but XTap sucks the big one! It is 100x worse now. Before you could play, now to can't.
Are you mentally ill or something of that sort? How is it fair to be against ghosts that have guns, are invisible, have walls and speed hacks? Back then there were full teams of hackers in GM fighting off each other.
You were never called a hacker because you're probably just another one of those noobs that suck with a SL and play TDM 24/7. Back then there weren't as many BR's but there still were BR's there and CF had less players than it had now, yet 50% of them were BR's.
XTrap is alot better than Game Guard, deal with it. You just read stuff about the old days and you post it here. You are obviously a newfag. -
This is a discussion forum. Discuss or don't comment at all.Too afraid to argue with a mod
GameGuard was terribly inefficient for Crossfire, this has been established by pure trial - we used them, they were bad so we ditched them.
The fact that they're good for a different game does not automagically infer that it'd be pure awesome for this game.
PunkBuster feels pretty pointless to even debate. Its not for this kind of game, no matter how good it is for other games. -
This is a discussion forum. Discuss or don't comment at all.
GameGuard was terribly inefficient for Crossfire, this has been established by pure trial - we used them, they were bad so we ditched them.
The fact that they're good for a different game does not automagically infer that it'd be pure awesome for this game.
PunkBuster feels pretty pointless to even debate. Its not for this kind of game, no matter how good it is for other games.
Well said
But i am sure there must be better game security then xtrap...Dont know the exact name but i know they do exist -
I love people that don't bother to read the entire thread, especially when it's not even a page long.
X-trap from January-April 2011 was BRILLIANT.. They always seem to get into these slums. It's just an up-and-down situation.
This.. ^^^ -
xtrapfever wrote: »pretty sure gunz got shut down for a while because of so many hacks. i played it a few days ago and there's still a ****load of hacks in it with gameguard.
but i heard ava is doing okay with gameguard.
anyway xtrap and gameguard both are/were just terrible (for CF). i'd say 2 more months of this and its time for a change.
AVA has tighter coding... a more recent engine. CF has an ancient engine hence why its so easy to crack and why AVA hasnt got many hacks. Its not due to a superior anti cheat at all. Not to mention AVA isnt as big as CF.Been discussed before
Got dissed
GameGuard and punkbuster are much better
but they already have a contract with xtrap
so..................
Humbug
GG and Punkbuster are NOT superior. By 2 main experiences. For those that remember Greycloak, he used to be a Moderator for WarRock when they had Punkbuster. That was such a massive fail for it, any cheat would work and in the end they had to drop it.
GG is a failure. Its working for some games generally because the games have far superior coding or people just dont bother to hack it as badly as they do for Crossfire.
For those that werent here when we had GG... dont comment. You have no clue what it was really like back then. -
Hmm... why no one considered something like, making x-trap coders tighten up CF's coding? =o
idk if it's possible or not but would become in-handy after a while, since it would take more time to the hackers to bypass the defenses fo the game .-.
but yeh, i'm not a supah coder to know what we can do or not, the only other sollution i would have is to take legal measures against people who cheat, but that would be blocked by the differences in between international laws
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huh? there some k1nd of anticheatrash on processlist ... 2 lines more on registry ... solved. why u suggest to recover similar anticheattrash ... xtrap is just lazy company from far east, wich never logged on na/eu cf. *..* i bid the discuss history between z8 and xtrap storaged in 2 lines of half year *..*
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I started playing this game when it first came out. (ign is sup) I had been gone for quite a while, but came back for the first time last night and played a few rounds. The hacking is much, much more prevalent than before. Every room had at least one hacker, usually many more. Maybe this could be attributed to more players as someone mentioned in this thread, but regardless the game is virtually unplayable at the moment. I'm sure scrimming would be somewhat more enjoyable, but why bother?
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Hmm... why no one considered something like, making x-trap coders tighten up CF's coding? =o
idk if it's possible or not but would become in-handy after a while, since it would take more time to the hackers to bypass the defenses fo the game .-.
but yeh, i'm not a supah coder to know what we can do or not, the only other sollution i would have is to take legal measures against people who cheat, but that would be blocked by the differences in between international laws
i pmed mod Rory for their website so i can email them hacking websites so they see how hacks hack the game but i was surprised when
i found evrything in chinese or japanese i can translate some but most of the words cant be translated
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