Please enlighten me on this issue!
I would like to explain something to me.
I can not understand why so much debate on how to play CrossFire.
Many criticize those players who prefer to camp in one location.
Others say it should go behind enemy lines, firing. That camp is rookie stuff. But with that thought, it is also criticized as a player who spray (practice badly seen in this game, although for me, both are an strategy).
I do not play with sniper, because there is simply no way to sniper: Running, meaningless, with a sniper rifle in hand, shooting quickscoping not seem the right strategy.
And if you settle camping, you will see a huge "KILLER" for your opponent when you hit him. Denouncing his position! Outside, the players will be accused of camper!
Not need to tell me that this game has a rapid style. But I need ideas that are logical. The purpose of the CF was this, anyway? Or what happens is just an adaptation of the players?
For me, a game of this style, should allow (either the game with their maps as the players and their minds) an plurality of personal strategies (camper, spray, rush ...) that would only be subject to a teamwork (acting in clans).
I can not understand why so much debate on how to play CrossFire.
Many criticize those players who prefer to camp in one location.
Others say it should go behind enemy lines, firing. That camp is rookie stuff. But with that thought, it is also criticized as a player who spray (practice badly seen in this game, although for me, both are an strategy).
I do not play with sniper, because there is simply no way to sniper: Running, meaningless, with a sniper rifle in hand, shooting quickscoping not seem the right strategy.
And if you settle camping, you will see a huge "KILLER" for your opponent when you hit him. Denouncing his position! Outside, the players will be accused of camper!
Not need to tell me that this game has a rapid style. But I need ideas that are logical. The purpose of the CF was this, anyway? Or what happens is just an adaptation of the players?
For me, a game of this style, should allow (either the game with their maps as the players and their minds) an plurality of personal strategies (camper, spray, rush ...) that would only be subject to a teamwork (acting in clans).
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Confederado wrote: »I do not play with sniper, because there is simply no way to sniper: Running, meaningless, with a sniper rifle in hand, shooting quickscoping not seem the right strategy.
If you are beast with a sniper you can easily make 5.0 KD with it.
If you learn even a bit about sniping you know what im talkin about.
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people tend to confront things like holding "power" spots being a noob tactic, since it's easier to hold your own ground there.
they assume a pro player should just run like an idiot and return fire precisely against every single enemy .-.
idc if the person is camping or not, i just don't want it to be cheap, like some obscure almost glitch area where only that person can be that will allow them to hit me without being able to return fire. -
yea ik. i mean what are you supose to do as GR?? they have to plant. thats the dificulty.
k spray is for noob. you get a kill with luck. but you cant see any skill at a spray. i mean ifyou spray in team and the other one rushed him from behind and the spray was for distraciton then ok. but anyway else no.
and btw FOR ANY IDIOT THAT SAYS TO A BL THAT PLANTED THE FREAKING BOMB SAYS NOOB CAMPER. THEN GO FCK YOU SELF!!!!! -
It's just kids crying. Play as you want, nobody knows your real intentions. I don't camp mainly because it bores me. The only time I do camp is at GR base in Eagle Eye when I'm using my gatling xD...
I like to quickscope so I also play with a sniper on all maps.
Just play the way you enjoy the game...it's a game, you're not in Afghanistan. -
I do not question the ability of anyone with an sniper. I'm not good with them. But an sniper is to be stealthy, and deadly accurate. And it should not be able to, running from one side to another. Worse, disappears stealth when a giant "KILLER" appears to the opponent. -
people tend to confront things like holding "power" spots being a noob tactic, since it's easier to hold your own ground there.
they assume a pro player should just run like an idiot and return fire precisely against every single enemy .-.
idc if the person is camping or not, i just don't want it to be cheap, like some obscure almost glitch area where only that person can be that will allow them to hit me without being able to return fire.
That's my point. It seems that everything runs away from a "status quo" arbitrarily defined this community is something noob!
Lose the plurality of options.
Glitchs are an nuisance. Otherwise, points that allow good shots should be further explored and encouraged -
LeonelDavidL wrote: »yea ik. i mean what are you supose to do as GR?? they have to plant. thats the dificulty.
k spray is for noob. you get a kill with luck. but you cant see any skill at a spray. i mean ifyou spray in team and the other one rushed him from behind and the spray was for distraciton then ok. but anyway else no.
and btw FOR ANY IDIOT THAT SAYS TO A BL THAT PLANTED THE FREAKING BOMB SAYS NOOB CAMPER. THEN GO FCK YOU SELF!!!!!
How could you define a spray, as a tactic and as luck?
If a player spray another to keep him away = tactical?
If it hits = lucky noob?
And there is an tactic that allows practice rush without the spray? -
Confederado wrote: »How could you define a spray, as a tactic and as luck?
If a player spray another to keep him away = tactical?
If it hits = lucky noob?
And there is an tactic that allows practice rush without the spray?
the game REG doesn't allows you to do not spray while rushing, because most of the shots doesn't reg, so we have to spend some extra rounds on the target .-.
IF the game REG was good, people would easily rush spending only the necessary ammo over the enemies. -
the game REG doesn't allows you to do not spray while rushing, because most of the shots doesn't reg, so we have to spend some extra rounds on the target .-.
IF the game REG was good, people would easily rush spending only the necessary ammo over the enemies.
seriously,
What is that REG? -
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Confederado wrote: »I would like to explain something to me.
I can not understand why so much debate on how to play CrossFire.
Many criticize those players who prefer to camp in one location.
Others say it should go behind enemy lines, firing. That camp is rookie stuff. But with that thought, it is also criticized as a player who spray (practice badly seen in this game, although for me, both are an strategy).
I do not play with sniper, because there is simply no way to sniper: Running, meaningless, with a sniper rifle in hand, shooting quickscoping not seem the right strategy.
And if you settle camping, you will see a huge "KILLER" for your opponent when you hit him. Denouncing his position! Outside, the players will be accused of camper!
Not need to tell me that this game has a rapid style. But I need ideas that are logical. The purpose of the CF was this, anyway? Or what happens is just an adaptation of the players?
For me, a game of this style, should allow (either the game with their maps as the players and their minds) an plurality of personal strategies (camper, spray, rush ...) that would only be subject to a teamwork (acting in clans).
Camping isn't noob, Its just that most players don't want to WORK for their kills, or change tactics. Most players just want to run around spraying down the enemy, not realizing how stupid such a tactic is.
Camping is a way to counter rushing, being predictable, and moving in groups.
Camping isn't hard to counter, its just many rather not bother trying to learn how to play better and instead try to get the opponent to stop.
Personally, I find any player that is running around with no concern or caution deserves to be ambushed.
The players that complain about camping will also complain about flash grenades, flanking, or someone just doing better then them. Pay it no mindthe game REG doesn't allows you to do not spray while rushing, because most of the shots doesn't reg, so we have to spend some extra rounds on the target .-.
IF the game REG was good, people would easily rush spending only the necessary ammo over the enemies.
Didn't you say once you play with 200 ping? At 200 ping the target may not be where your shooting at but a full 0.4-0.6 seconds ahead or about 5 feet. try shooing ahead of your target a bit. I only have reg issues if my ping or my target's starts being unstable. -
Confederado wrote: »seriously,
What is that REG?
bullet register.Didn't you say once you play with 200 ping? At 200 ping the target may not be where your shooting at but a full 0.4-0.6 seconds ahead or about 5 feet. try shooing ahead of your target a bit. I only have reg issues if my ping or my target's starts being unstable.
oh well, it works backways too, so if your target got 200 ping, you gotta adjust your aim as well
so, the reg is a problem without a huge ping compensator :x -
Confederado wrote: »I do not question the ability of anyone with an sniper. I'm not good with them. But an sniper is to be stealthy, and deadly accurate. And it should not be able to, running from one side to another. Worse, disappears stealth when a giant "KILLER" appears to the opponent.
Well in real war nobody rushes, everyone 'camps'.
Its a game! not real life -.-
And snipers are kinda 'stealth', cuz if you dont shoot with sniper the opponent in 1-2seconds, you are dead.
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bullet register.
oh well, it works backways too, so if your target got 200 ping, you gotta adjust your aim as well
so, the reg is a problem without a huge ping compensator :x
Nope, it depends on your ping.
A ping of 68 = 0.068 seconds of delay of information from the server, and 0.068 seconds for information to reach the server.
I got a reaction time of 0.12 seconds, so I see the information 0.068 seconds after it happened, my reaction takes 0.12 seconds, and the information takes 0.068 seconds to reach the server. The server then compares the information it received from everyone and then sends out the results.
So my total delay is 0.256 seconds. Even if my target has 200 ping, The server sees him and gives the info on where he is with a 0.068 delay.
Now a 200 ping is a 0.200 second delay on receiving and giving info. With a average reaction time of 0.25 that leads to a 0.650 second delay for the server. Meaning the server will most likely see a miss against a moving target.
This is why high ping is a disadvantage. The higher the ping, the older the info you get is, the longer it takes to reach the server, and the more likely what the server sees and what you see are different. -
Too many COD kids think CF is the same.
God forbid defenders defend a position.
3 minutes is plenty of time to do what you need on either side. Kids are just impatient. If a person isn't doing awesome when they see the blinking 00:59 flashing, people start getting kicked. -
GTF0 Randie. Just cos he's BR. Personally I don't mind camping backreaping and spraying we all do it.
Its funny when someone is about to backreap my team-mate. then I kill him before he does it.
Then he says ' omg backreap noob! '
- 3003th post, dont know when I got 3000.
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Backreap? When I save a teammate from someone they call me hacker. -
[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »Too many COD kids think CF is the same.
God forbid defenders defend a position.
3 minutes is plenty of time to do what you need on either side. Kids are just impatient. If a person isn't doing awesome when they see the blinking 00:59 flashing, people start getting kicked.
Get em told talon. -
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It's just kids crying. Play as you want, nobody knows your real intentions. I don't camp mainly because it bores me. The only time I do camp is at GR base in Eagle Eye when I'm using my gatling xD...
I like to quickscope so I also play with a sniper on all maps.
Just play the way you enjoy the game...it's a game, you're not in Afghanistan.
I agree with you here TOLK. It's not like the way you play is a big deal. If someone cries about it, block their chat and keep doing what you're doing if you like it. I personally only camp in MM or HM just because I know fun places to go and when the mutant finds you, they're tight quarters so you scream "AH SHIZ!" when one come around the corner and punches you in the face. But any way you play is fine. If they can't handle playing types then they shouldn't play in matches where those types are present. -
Camping is part of the game but it is not something I like to do to get kills as it is boring and noob however if you are defending the bomb, a site or a position to protect others looking the opposite way then yea it is not only sound but good game sense to camp.
I just can't stand those that base their whole style on camping, I like to hunt otherwise:) -
Scarpellago wrote: »I agree with you here TOLK. It's not like the way you play is a big deal. If someone cries about it, block their chat and keep doing what you're doing if you like it. I personally only camp in MM or HM just because I know fun places to go and when the mutant finds you, they're tight quarters so you scream "AH SHIZ!" when one come around the corner and punches you in the face. But any way you play is fine. If they can't handle playing types then they shouldn't play in matches where those types are present.
Camping and hiding are two different things.
Camping is meant to either hold a area that gives a tactical advantage or to ambush a unsuspecting target.
Hiding is to go where few ever go and hope to be not found.
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Camping and hiding are two different things.
Camping is meant to either hold a area that gives a tactical advantage or to ambush a unsuspecting target.
Hiding is to go where few ever go and hope to be not found.
Edit: forgot I had some post multi quoted.
Yeah but I'm talking about on the ruins in Excavation, right in the corner where the boxes to get to the very top are. I'll sit there and shoot at the people on the ledge so I consider it camping. In my mind anyway. :P
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