CF-EU and hackers.

With CF-EU now getting ready to take over europe, do you think the hacker situation in CF NA will disappear or do you think it will just stay the same?

Personally, i think many hackers came to CF NA (even when it was half-way across the world) was because it was an English language based game (reason being one can apply here easier than in russian or chinese).

So with that said, do you think the emergence of CF-EU will be CF NA's saving grace (obviously the BRs will stay) or do you think the hackers will continue to play our game?

Also since we are here.

Do you think Z8/G4 has the resources to hire in game mods/gms? Do you think it would be worth while? (How would you hire people to just monitor games all day anyway?)

-Aimoperative
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  • With CF-EU now getting ready to take over europe, do you think the hacker situation in CF NA will disappear or do you think it will just stay the same?

    Personally, i think many hackers came to CF NA (even when it was half-way across the world) was because it was an English language based game (reason being one can apply here easier than in russian or chinese).

    So with that said, do you think the emergence of CF-EU will be CF NA's saving grace (obviously the BRs will stay) or do you think the hackers will continue to play our game?

    Also since we are here.

    Do you think Z8/G4 has the resources to hire in game mods/gms? Do you think it would be worth while? (How would you hire people to just monitor games all day anyway?)

    -Aimoperative


    CFPH is also in English
  • well. nah. basically z8 is not doing there job. That's the main reason y there r so many hackers in this game. We don't need z8 to ban every single hacker in this game cuz it's impossible. And also it's meaningless to ban those 'smiling faces' cuz they just play one or two days with hacks and then quit.

    The only solution is to ban the hacking program everytime there is a new hack.
    Or, ban the IP, not just the account. u can apply as many accounts as u want!!!

    Did u c how many people r buying crates? By seeing the green notice such as "*** got *** from blackmarket". And wat is z8 doing with these money? Ok. it's a company and it needs to earn money. But don't forget to take some out to make the game better.
  • we still got SA here so there can only be an increase in hackers.
  • most hackers r low rank,which means alt accounts..
    new account within 2 mins.. who give a damn if it gets ban..
  • I think it will go down ever so slightly... there are no more european registrations being made so hackers from those countries ill not hack here ;) But the other countries that are mostly seen to hack are still allowed so it will only go down ever so slightly i believe.
  • There's hackers from every country, there'll be a decrease in the uk servers in some ways probably, but it's doubtful for NA.
  • You wanna know some truth facts :

    Z8 are working with some hacking sites like mp.gh/dx.t . Hows this possible? Well without lacking to much info I could there is few questions:
    Why after every patch in Like 2 hours there is already a hack out?
    Why VIP hacks do never get patched ?
    Why they can't send a DDoS attack to this sites host's like they did with the CF Private server ?

    Answers:
    Whenever a patch is realised Z8 can easily leak some of their updates files which patch theyr hacks to the sites in an exchange of $ .
    Public hacks are made to attract people to the site and totally free . They get patched always , just a matter of time . VIP hacks costs money => If Z8 patch VIP hacks , the sites get no more money , and in conclusion Z8 gets no money.
    Why should they spend money on a DDoS attack to attack one of theyr money sources.

    Just think a bit of this^
  • It'll be worse.

    Once Brasil is officially welcomed and it's advertised more widely over there then yes.
  • DrixGod wrote: »
    You wanna know some truth facts :

    Z8 are working with some hacking sites like mp.gh/dx.t . Hows this possible? Well without lacking to much info I could there is few questions:
    Why after every patch in Like 2 hours there is already a hack out?
    Why VIP hacks do never get patched ?
    Why they can't send a DDoS attack to this sites host's like they did with the CF Private server ?

    Answers:
    Whenever a patch is realised Z8 can easily leak some of their updates files which patch theyr hacks to the sites in an exchange of $ .
    Public hacks are made to attract people to the site and totally free . They get patched always , just a matter of time . VIP hacks costs money => If Z8 patch VIP hacks , the sites get no more money , and in conclusion Z8 gets no money.
    Why should they spend money on a DDoS attack to attack one of theyr money sources.

    Just think a bit of this^


    This is completely false, backed up with no truth or proof and makes zero sense.

    Let me just put a very ultra simple scenario to test to see which you believe.

    Do you actually believe a scenario where a company, with an official license to a video game, to host severs in NA and UK and who has the legal copyrights in conjunction with Neowiz/Smilegate to materials created for a game for their version, who goes after a site who illegally hacked and modified game content files from a different version of a game. Would DDoS a website (any website), which goes directly against the DMC and could potentially be illegal in itself? When all we had to do was go after the site in a legal sense because everything they were doing was illegal under almost all copyright and digital laws.

    What purpose would it serve for us to DDoS a site when we can simply do what we can through legal means and through our lawyers.

    It's convenient that their site when down a the same time they were engaged in digital illegal activity.


    Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to believe a news post on a site that directly promotes the illegal hacking of our video game.


    And I won't even bother getting in to users thinking that we're working with hacking sites. It's just plain untrue. I can't even begin to think of a reason why we would break the contract we have with the developers. We would be risking our own legal downfall by doing that. Not to mention it's just a completely unfounded thought. It's impossible to even begin to explain how utterly uninformed a post like this is.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    This is completely false, backed up with no truth or proof and makes zero sense.

    Let me just put a very ultra simple scenario to test to see which you believe.

    Do you actually believe a scenario where a company, with an official license to a video game, to host severs in NA and UK and who has the legal copyrights in conjunction with Neowiz/Smilegate to materials created for a game for their version, who goes after a site who illegally hacked and modified game content files from a different version of a game. Would DDoS a website (any website), which goes directly against the DMC and could potentially be illegal in itself? When all we had to do was go after the site in a legal sense because everything they were doing was illegal under almost all copyright and digital laws.

    What purpose would it serve for us to DDoS a site when we can simply do what we can through legal means and through our lawyers.

    It's convenient that their site when down a the same time they were engaged in digital illegal activity.


    Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to believe a news post on a site that directly promotes the illegal hacking of our video game.


    And I won't even bother getting in to users thinking that we're working with hacking sites. It's just plain untrue. I can't even begin to think of a reason why we would break the contract we have with the developers. We would be risking our own legal downfall by doing that. Not to mention it's just a completely unfounded thought. It's impossible to even begin to explain how utterly uninformed a post like this is.

    What I understood:
    You can hire lawyers, but you cant get more people take care of tickets..

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  • henxili wrote: »
    The only solution is to ban the hacking program everytime there is a new hack.
    Or, ban the IP, not just the account. u can apply as many accounts as u want!!!

    We do all of this by the way.

    Additionally:
    Do you think Z8/G4 has the resources to hire in game mods/gms? Do you think it would be worth while? (How would you hire people to just monitor games all day anyway?)

    Any other version of CF isn't going to miraculously have different functions than the other versions (with regards to the hacking situation). The hacking problem in Cross Fire is worked on universally by the developers.

    While there is probably something to be said for the accessibility of any English version of CF with regards to the numbers of hacking instances, all versions with the exception of "government-id-required" Asian versions, have similar hacking issues.

    We have a team here which handles hacking, and our version is one of the biggest versions outside of Asia. There are a lot of factors with regards to the hacking issue. And please note, one of those problems is users coming here and saying "70% of the people in cf hack" Which is completely false and untrue, and a totally irrelevant statistic as the rumors the above poster talks about.
  • njeppero wrote: »
    What I understood:
    You can hire lawyers, but you cant get more people take care of tickets..

    It's totally different departments. I'm not sure how you could relate the two. And I assume by ticket you mean hack reports.

    Hack reports and bans are handled in the hundreds if not thousands per day as a combination of the auto detect system and our hack report system.

    All official businesses have lawyers or a legal department. It's generally a requirement.
  • Just report + kick and there will be less of them and two key things is to kick when you are sure they hack and not after you have won the game and then report them
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    It's totally different departments. I'm not sure how you could relate the two. And I assume by ticket you mean hack reports.

    Hack reports and bans are handled in the hundreds if not thousands per day as a combination of the auto detect system and our hack report system.

    All official businesses have lawyers or a legal department. It's generally a requirement.

    Still nothing seems to help?
    Why so?

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  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    When all we had to do was go after the site in a legal sense because everything they were doing was illegal under almost all copyright and digital laws.

    If that is the case, why haven't you? Just out of curiosity.
  • With CF-EU now getting ready to take over europe, do you think the hacker situation in CF NA will disappear or do you think it will just stay the same?

    Personally, i think many hackers came to CF NA (even when it was half-way across the world) was because it was an English language based game (reason being one can apply here easier than in russian or chinese).

    So with that said, do you think the emergence of CF-EU will be CF NA's saving grace (obviously the BRs will stay) or do you think the hackers will continue to play our game?

    Also since we are here.

    Do you think Z8/G4 has the resources to hire in game mods/gms? Do you think it would be worth while? (How would you hire people to just monitor games all day anyway?)

    -Aimoperative


    #1 hackers will still continue, they will just discover there own over in the EU side.

    #2 they dont need too "HIRE" anyone. they need too "promote" players alredy in game that play legit. and let them temp ban the obvious hackers. then Z8/G4 can perm ban them, themselves when they review the temp bans.

    this way the hackers will dissappear ;)
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    We do all of this by the way.

    Additionally:



    Any other version of CF isn't going to miraculously have different functions than the other versions (with regards to the hacking situation). The hacking problem in Cross Fire is worked on universally by the developers.

    While there is probably something to be said for the accessibility of any English version of CF with regards to the numbers of hacking instances, all versions with the exception of "government-id-required" Asian versions, have similar hacking issues.

    We have a team here which handles hacking, and our version is one of the biggest versions outside of Asia. There are a lot of factors with regards to the hacking issue. And please note, one of those problems is users coming here and saying "70% of the people in cf hack" Which is completely false and untrue, and a totally irrelevant statistic as the rumors the above poster talks about.

    Do you play this game?

    Are you European?
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    This is completely false, backed up with no truth or proof and makes zero sense.

    Let me just put a very ultra simple scenario to test to see which you believe.

    Do you actually believe a scenario where a company, with an official license to a video game, to host severs in NA and UK and who has the legal copyrights in conjunction with Neowiz/Smilegate to materials created for a game for their version, who goes after a site who illegally hacked and modified game content files from a different version of a game. Would DDoS a website (any website), which goes directly against the DMC and could potentially be illegal in itself? When all we had to do was go after the site in a legal sense because everything they were doing was illegal under almost all copyright and digital laws.

    What purpose would it serve for us to DDoS a site when we can simply do what we can through legal means and through our lawyers.

    It's convenient that their site when down a the same time they were engaged in digital illegal activity.


    Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to believe a news post on a site that directly promotes the illegal hacking of our video game.


    And I won't even bother getting in to users thinking that we're working with hacking sites. It's just plain untrue. I can't even begin to think of a reason why we would break the contract we have with the developers. We would be risking our own legal downfall by doing that. Not to mention it's just a completely unfounded thought. It's impossible to even begin to explain how utterly uninformed a post like this is.
    este es un haccker dispara atrves de las paredes
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  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    It's totally different departments. I'm not sure how you could relate the two. And I assume by ticket you mean hack reports.

    Hack reports and bans are handled in the hundreds if not thousands per day as a combination of the auto detect system and our hack report system.

    All official businesses have lawyers or a legal department. It's generally a requirement.
    Night_Hook
    dispara a traves de las paredes.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?008uxhu3xyicesb
    gracias saidin.
  • foreigners will always be an issue in online games to countries like USA or Canada.
  • Det0 wrote: »
    Do you play this game?

    Are you European?
    You just pick horrible rooms to play in. Every time i play cf, the most hackers i've ever seen was 1 in every 5 rooms i played in. Most of the time, i'm trying to defend my headshots.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    This is completely false, backed up with no truth or proof and makes zero sense.

    Let me just put a very ultra simple scenario to test to see which you believe.

    Do you actually believe a scenario where a company, with an official license to a video game, to host severs in NA and UK and who has the legal copyrights in conjunction with Neowiz/Smilegate to materials created for a game for their version, who goes after a site who illegally hacked and modified game content files from a different version of a game. Would DDoS a website (any website), which goes directly against the DMC and could potentially be illegal in itself? When all we had to do was go after the site in a legal sense because everything they were doing was illegal under almost all copyright and digital laws.

    What purpose would it serve for us to DDoS a site when we can simply do what we can through legal means and through our lawyers.

    It's convenient that their site when down a the same time they were engaged in digital illegal activity.


    Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to believe a news post on a site that directly promotes the illegal hacking of our video game.


    And I won't even bother getting in to users thinking that we're working with hacking sites. It's just plain untrue. I can't even begin to think of a reason why we would break the contract we have with the developers. We would be risking our own legal downfall by doing that. Not to mention it's just a completely unfounded thought. It's impossible to even begin to explain how utterly uninformed a post like this is.

    Yep you don't need to send a DDoS attack for example on a ha.cking site which is destroying the company . You can do it with legal loyers because they are illegal.

    But when the private server came out you said is an illegal thing and is all about time till will get closed. So you couldn't hire loyers to get the private server CF down but just simply send a DDoS attack .

    I'm quite informed of whats happening Saidin.
  • Trolls

    hope off.


    Thank you.


    If the BR server does come, it will be a sure fact that hackers will exist. Hackers will always be.

    Even with the ammount of BR hackers, my prediction is that the BR community themselves will outcast the hackers. No one likes them, and the only reason why players let it go is becuase they are unaware of how to report, OR because of the "need" to win.

    Just my 2 cents. I could type up a essay here, but not willing to.
  • DrixGod wrote: »
    Yep you don't need to send a DDoS attack for example on a ha.cking site which is destroying the company . You can do it with legal loyers because they are illegal.

    But when the private server came out you said is an illegal thing and is all about time till will get closed. So you couldn't hire loyers to get the private server CF down but just simply send a DDoS attack .

    I'm quite informed of whats happening Saidin.

    I'd like to see the hard proof that states the DDoS came from this company. Oh, that's right, you don't have any proof. You're listening to a person, running an illegal private server, who said it came from Z8Games. Get real. You know nothing of what really went on. Come back when you have 100% facts on what you are speaking about.
  • I'd like to see the hard proof that states the DDoS came from this company. Oh, that's right, you don't have any proof. You have someone, running an illegal private server, who said it came from them. Get real. You know nothing of what really went on.

    ya he is lie

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  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    This is completely false, backed up with no truth or proof and makes zero sense.

    Let me just put a very ultra simple scenario to test to see which you believe.

    Do you actually believe a scenario where a company, with an official license to a video game, to host severs in NA and UK and who has the legal copyrights in conjunction with Neowiz/Smilegate to materials created for a game for their version, who goes after a site who illegally hacked and modified game content files from a different version of a game. Would DDoS a website (any website), which goes directly against the DMC and could potentially be illegal in itself? When all we had to do was go after the site in a legal sense because everything they were doing was illegal under almost all copyright and digital laws.

    What purpose would it serve for us to DDoS a site when we can simply do what we can through legal means and through our lawyers.

    It's convenient that their site when down a the same time they were engaged in digital illegal activity.


    Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to believe a news post on a site that directly promotes the illegal hacking of our video game.


    And I won't even bother getting in to users thinking that we're working with hacking sites. It's just plain untrue. I can't even begin to think of a reason why we would break the contract we have with the developers. We would be risking our own legal downfall by doing that. Not to mention it's just a completely unfounded thought. It's impossible to even begin to explain how utterly uninformed a post like this is.

    Yep... Same old story, w.e heres a suggestion.

    IP servers, 2 for United states, 1 for UK, 1 for canada, 2 for south america. Then have a few CENTRAL servers for every 1 to access
  • If I was to ask what percent of a hacker increase/decrease there would be because of a BR server, would you respond that the % of hackers would increase? or Decrease? I know Jafrikan gave a pretty good answer, but I've heard some other things from Confederado.
  • DrixGod wrote: »
    Yep you don't need to send a DDoS attack for example on a ha.cking site which is destroying the company . You can do it with legal loyers because they are illegal.

    But when the private server came out you said is an illegal thing and is all about time till will get closed. So you couldn't hire loyers to get the private server CF down but just simply send a DDoS attack .

    I'm quite informed of whats happening Saidin.

    The copy version wasn't from CF NA it was from CF PH when the DDoS attacks begin on their game version and probably still is.
  • DrixGod wrote: »
    You wanna know some truth facts :

    Z8 are working with some hacking sites like mp.gh/dx.t . Hows this possible? Well without lacking to much info I could there is few questions:
    Why after every patch in Like 2 hours there is already a hack out?
    Why VIP hacks do never get patched ?
    Why they can't send a DDoS attack to this sites host's like they did with the CF Private server ?

    Answers:
    Whenever a patch is realised Z8 can easily leak some of their updates files which patch theyr hacks to the sites in an exchange of $ .
    Public hacks are made to attract people to the site and totally free . They get patched always , just a matter of time . VIP hacks costs money => If Z8 patch VIP hacks , the sites get no more money , and in conclusion Z8 gets no money.
    Why should they spend money on a DDoS attack to attack one of theyr money sources.

    Just think a bit of this^

    Chill, z8games is a company not a conspiracy, why would they kill their own game? Makes no sense.
  • its crossfire brohan no matter what you do when you create a free game with no anti-cheat and a ersb rating of T for kids your gonna get hackers
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