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  • 16GBram wrote: »
    why are you in the competitive section? you are not a competitive player and you are not good at this game.


    He is a competitive player, he's better at this game than some horrid player posting on an alt. Outside of the fact, even if he wasn't, why would that stop him from posting? He's got the same rights to post as your incredibly obvlivious ass.

    gracias amigo.
    kyuR_vD wrote: »
    No offence but you really didnt stand a chance at a mere average eu team. You guys didnt use your brain at all and the shots were far below average aswell. Atleast they were on black widow, didnt bother to watch the other map.

    7-0 ceyhan to rage's team then it stopped.
  • kSteal wrote: »
    7-0 ceyhan to rage's team then it stopped.

    What can i say? Expected might be the right term... Wasnt the 2nd map played in echo to?
  • Im canadian and i was in consensus team in wogl s1.I was the only player in the roster who had good ping..If consensus players had my ping,i think they will own LPK.Its my opinion
  • All3unR wrote: »
    Well, isn’t it the same for everyone? From my point of view Dpkp did not hit their shots on either server and even though it might seem strange I believe that mastering ping is a part of mastering the game. Anyhow, I think EU has shown during these last EU vs NA casts that standard is just as high in EU as it is in NA. Ik LifeLine hasn’t played the EU’s yet but we haven’t had any of the 4 finalists in WOGL EU play any NA’s either.

    If you have suggestions for EU vs NA matches, plz post them and Mayhem TV can go in and cast if needed./All3

    Standards just as high is a big understatement, id reckon the level in EU is far higher than NA. What LPK did against ROC was probably the best shot they could do, i doubt LL would do any better, theyre not the same as they used to be.
  • kyuR_vD wrote: »
    What can i say? Expected might be the right term... Wasnt the 2nd map played in echo to?

    Yep.
    echo ceyhan, think wildplay was T (?)

    they just got stomped on.
  • AjkeN wrote: »

    I don't understand why Americans are so eager to prove they are better than EU in anything

    prove they are better? everything from sports to games to music to cars. usa dominates EU.
    they are not trying to prove anything, there is no comparison.

    maybe if your butthurt euro mods would stop banning my accounts because eu bLows at this game i wouldn't have to post on alts.
  • AjkeN wrote: »
    Consensus placed 3rd in s1 or s2 (can't recall properly) playing one/two maps each game on 250+ ping, got knocked out loosing by a round or so to the season champions? You guys are definitely too good for us poor EU's...

    And it is really not equal when NA's plays on UK with 90-130 ping and EU's on NA with 150 up to 250 or even 300, I know it's not easy for you to understand, you're American after all.

    Did you even placed, lets say, top 5 in any season? Not Open trash, any decent EU team could win that "league" playing with 4... People posting on alts are2good

    I don't understand why Americans are so eager to prove they are better than EU in anything, I understand you are preteens and this is your first FPS, in which you think being good is an achievement but common, there are GOOD NA teams and there are GOOD EU teams, if you know anything about eSports you know which side completely dominates the other...

    Americans really talk out of the line in this game

    i shall agree with this nice man (IM NOT 1 OF THOSE AMERICANS THAT TALK OUT OF LINE) LOL
    would have had a descent match but we didnt field wat we should just stating a fact there any team that knows dpkp knows thats not a normal lineup
    plus this match was for fun just saying as i told boo just wanted to play due to having nothing else to do
  • 16GBram wrote: »
    prove they are better? everything from sports to games to music to cars. usa dominates EU.
    they are not trying to prove anything, there is no comparison.

    maybe if your butthurt euro mods would stop banning my accounts because eu bLows at this game i wouldn't have to post on alts.

    Alright now youre just trolling, i cant think of anyone this stupid.
  • Why do you guys even argue? Regular scrims or casted scrims mean about as much as Consensus placing top 3 in WOGL s1, it's cool but it doesn't really matter. Both EU and NA have good teams but due to ping issues they really shouldn't even be compared. The only way to truly say who is better is to have an even playing field. Until then continue to take scrims seriously and wonder why kids from the NA call you "$hitty EUs"
  • kyuR_vD wrote: »
    Obviously EU teams wouldnt play tournaments with 100+ ping when they could play them with 20 ping. Na vs Eu wont get any further than scrims, and in these its 0 - 3 right now, like i said americans talk to much and perform to little.

    CNS lost to standby in CSN. ROC lost to an equally bad team. Enough said. NA has played EU many times in leagues. In these matches, the uk server was also used. I guess scrims mean so much more than matches.
    kyuR_vD wrote: »
    Remind me again what things EU could have won? They didnt get a wem qualifier. And now its EU 3 - 0 NA i believe. Just stop talking and start doing some actual work. Rage's team was new, very new and these americans still didnt stand a chance. ( what a surprise )

    EU did get a WEM qualifier. It was called WOGL-P S1. Guess what, ya didn't make it.
    He is a competitive player, he's better at this game than some horrid player posting on an alt. Outside of the fact, even if he wasn't, why would that stop him from posting? He's got the same rights to post as your incredibly obvlivious ass.

    EU teams didn't win anything in WOGL s1 due to the pings being far too high to play competitively on. Also being forced to play in West Coast, just for a cheap win on the NA side was a factor. You're amazingly stupid, stop trying to pretend you're somewhat close to intelligent.

    Yet when it comes down to GR side of mexico on the uk server, consensus flopped. That half decided the match. Guess who won it? Funny how that works.
    sLizeD wrote: »
    I most certainly hope that you're not as stupid as you sound.
    Uhh, consensus was losing to LPK only by few rounds, while they played dirty and made them 300 ping in west coast.
    In wogl s1 I belive every european team was doing really well considering the circumstands.
    Now go hop off your ****ing alt and use your brain. GOD

    I'm happy I'm part of the european community where we have a bunch of really great guys, nice teams and no preteen americans without any sign of brain.

    Oh and btw:
    Even though those were "just casts'' EVERY team tries at least to deliver a good performance. If those NA teams were as strong as you say they wouldn't have gotten roflstomped by the ''****ty Eus''.
    Also I don't see how getting rolled by the other versions in WEM does count as some kind of succes for NA.

    What's even funnier is at the time ROC or CNS or sG would of got blown out of the water at WEM. Yall were'nt even close back then. You were still using scarlights in ESL.
    AjkeN wrote: »
    Consensus placed 3rd in s1 or s2 (can't recall properly) playing one/two maps each game on 250+ ping, got knocked out loosing by a round or so to the season champions? You guys are definitely too good for us poor EU's...

    And it is really not equal when NA's plays on UK with 90-130 ping and EU's on NA with 150 up to 250 or even 300, I know it's not easy for you to understand, you're American after all.

    Did you even placed, lets say, top 5 in any season? Not Open trash, any decent EU team could win that "league" playing with 4... People posting on alts are2good

    I don't understand why Americans are so eager to prove they are better than EU in anything, I understand you are preteens and this is your first FPS, in which you think being good is an achievement but common, there are GOOD NA teams and there are GOOD EU teams, if you know anything about eSports you know which side completely dominates the other...

    Americans really talk out of the line in this game

    CNS placed 3rd by forfeit. The other team didn't even show up, since there was no point. CNS didn't have 250+ ping, I've already posted the screenshots plenty of times.

    CNS got GR side of mexico on the UK server to decide the match. I don't think it gets much easier than that.

    I mean common, CNS lost to standby in CSN. Standby wasn't even top 5 NA at the time.
    IzDirect7 wrote: »
    Im canadian and i was in consensus team in wogl s1.I was the only player in the roster who had good ping..If consensus players had my ping,i think they will own LPK.Its my opinion

    probably should of played the tiebreaker on the uk server then.
    kyuR_vD wrote: »
    Standards just as high is a big understatement, id reckon the level in EU is far higher than NA. What LPK did against ROC was probably the best shot they could do, i doubt LL would do any better, theyre not the same as they used to be.

    LPK playing with 2 people who aren't even on the team, and a player that got cut for poor performance is definitely the best we could of done. Kinda like ROC losing to a NA pug badly 3 days before the WOGL-EU finals on the map they picked. I almost felt sorry for the way i was abusing doughner.

    I'm sorry, but unless you are a top eu player you need to stfu. You are clueless. The same goes for NA players who appear randomly in these threads like pokemon.

    We will see what happens in the "World CUP" clan tournament I am getting pushed through.
  • Hello everyone,

    This kind of rage, don't prove EU or NA are better then the other. This only prove what an immature community we have, cause this thread was about a live stream and now everyone is raging about who is better and who is worst.

    Atm the best Cf team is Dragon AB that were the one that won the WEM2010 the only competition that got CF team from all over the world. So my suggestion to all the team is to try qualifie to a major event, like WCG and there prove what ever you need to.
    Instead of using your time to this kind of threads, you try to put Crossfire in Major Competions like Intel Masters or DreamHack. You would have a place to prove on a equal set of conditions who is the best.

    Don't take this has a attack on anyone, take this has a attempt to improve the community mentality.

    Cumpz,
    Bruno Marques aka Conn3Xx.xokako
  • dooplpk wrote: »
    CNS lost to standby in CSN. ROC lost to an equally bad team. Enough said. NA has played EU many times in leagues. In these matches, the uk server was also used. I guess scrims mean so much more than matches.



    EU did get a WEM qualifier. It was called WOGL-P S1. Guess what, ya didn't make it.



    Yet when it comes down to GR side of mexico on the uk server, consensus flopped. That half decided the match. Guess who won it? Funny how that works.



    What's even funnier is at the time ROC or CNS or sG would of got blown out of the water at WEM. Yall were'nt even close back then. You were still using scarlights in ESL.



    CNS placed 3rd by forfeit. The other team didn't even show up, since there was no point. CNS didn't have 250+ ping, I've already posted the screenshots plenty of times.

    CNS got GR side of mexico on the UK server to decide the match. I don't think it gets much easier than that.

    I mean common, CNS lost to standby in CSN. Standby wasn't even top 5 NA at the time.



    probably should of played the tiebreaker on the uk server then.



    LPK playing with 2 people who aren't even on the team, and a player that got cut for poor performance is definitely the best we could of done. Kinda like ROC losing to a NA pug badly 3 days before the WOGL-EU finals on the map they picked. I almost felt sorry for the way i was abusing doughner.

    I'm sorry, but unless you are a top eu player you need to stfu. You are clueless. The same goes for NA players who appear randomly in these threads like pokemon.

    We will see what happens in the "World CUP" clan tournament I am getting pushed through.

    To bad all that happened atleast a year ago.
  • I find it amusing that this argument even EXISTS.

    Until there is a level playing field (latency, no server advantages) explain to me HOW you can compare the two? Speculate all you want about team/individual skill, there is no true measure to this until a field exists where the only thing that will decide the outcome is the team and its game play, not the latency difference and such between the two.

    Put LPK vs. ROC @ LAN. I'd like to see how that turns out ;)

    Not to mention the fact that personal bias in this situation will NEVER come to a conclusion. This is like trying to decide whether M&M's or Skittles are better..... you're NEVER going to get an agreement.
  • kyuR_vD wrote: »
    To bad all that happened atleast a year ago.

    too bad it will never happen for a eu team
  • 16GBram wrote: »
    too bad it will never happen for a eu team

    To bad they're ****ting on Na's lately.

    This is the last one ill post here, bye.

  • Not to mention the fact that personal bias in this situation will NEVER come to a conclusion. This is like trying to decide whether M&M's or Skittles are better..... you're NEVER going to get an agreement.

    To that that I found the solution. You need to eat 1M&M and 1Skittle at the same time.
  • kyuR_vD wrote: »
    To bad they're ****ting on Na's lately.

    This is the last one ill post here, bye.

    You act like scrims matter lol...
  • kyuR_vD wrote: »
    To bad they're ****ting on Na's lately.

    This is the last one ill post here, bye.

    So, you're actually basing a NA team's skill based off of a broadcasted scrimmage?

    Kind of ignorant don't you think?

    Put the same game in a League situation, on an anti-cheat, with $5,000 on the line. Then, I'd be willing to bet that the teams may play a LITTLE differently.

    It's kind of hard to put all you've got into a scrim that means nothing in retrospect to competitive gaming. It's just a scrim.
  • close the thread......ROC SG rage's team have beaten dpkp pcp lpk.....Who care's its history, everyone was given an oportunity to take advangtage in front of the community to show there talent's na v eu. Eu won the exhibition, move on guy's. Some ppl will always have an excuse that's life not much more than can be done to settle it....close the thread
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