The SG552 Camo's Recoil?? rofl
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Yes I edited to add the apology. Stop pointing fingers now, My first post was still on topic of SG. Just not on recoil. You followed my path and you didn't discuss the original topic either. But whatever, screw that noise.
I'm not pointing fingers, I am pointing out contradictions. The topic wasn't the SG as a whole. The topic is specifically about the recoil of the SG
Thread Title: The SG552 Camo’s Recoil?? rofl
Let’s start at the thread title. This thread is about the recoil of the SG. The “?? Rofl” is there to draw people in and see what is surprising about the recoil on the SG.
The OP was stating how he was testing the gun’s sound set, when he found out something very surprising about the recoil of the SG. Since there are only 2 people in the room and it is his clan mate, one can assume that it was not a serious game. [FONT="]The mode the map is in is irrelevant. It would of made no difference if he was on ship when he found out about the recoil of SG when he was testing it’s sound signature. [/FONT]This is backed up even further by emptying of full clips against the walls in spots the ghosts are unlikely to be in.I was jst in a room wif *Sun my clan mate to test out my gun's sound-set. so i put an SG552-Camo and AK47 and a ScarLight in 3 of my bags. And this is wut i found out :
(Here are 4 pictures showing the SG’s surprisingly low recoil/spread.)
Might to be news to some people but..hopefully someone find it new
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Once again please note that the thread is about the surprising lack of recoil, not the soundstage. The OP even goes on to remark that he hopes that his "discovery" about the recoil will be news to players.
Right away you question who, not how many. This is important in the next post. Now on to other more interesting things.Who even uses SG552/Camo? Especially in GM. One of the worst mistakes imho. It's on par with AK47 with loudness.
Definition of especially: [FONT="] in particular : particularly <food seems cheaper, especially meats> [/FONT]
[FONT="]The example in the definition applies to this case. Players don’t seem to use the sg, especially in ghost mode.[/FONT]
Poster was confused about your statement that SG is not good, especially in ghostmode. He reference how the SG is one of the top guns in S&D.LOL what are you talking about SG is the top gun in snd.
In the first sentence you talk about the quality of the SG. It is the type of gun you would only use against bad players, such as a m9.In a PUB, maybe. Or against some really bad team in scrim. Besides I'm not talking about usefulness... I'm just mentioning on how no one uses or cares for this weapon.
In the second sentence you state that no one uses or cares about this weapon. This is again wrong, as there are many players in s&d who use the sg. One can come to the conclusion that even more people use the SG due to its availability.
http://crossfire.z8games.com/guide_weapons_primary_assault_rifles.aspx
you can get both the SG and SG-camo in different ways. This adds to the probability that people own and use the sg.
Poster states that he uses the SG to backup his m4. You randomly attack him in a later post.Aimoperative wrote: »When M4a1 fails. I use SG.
Poster gives the list of the common weapons in competitive S&D play. This answers your question of who uses the SG.actually,no.
m4/ak/awm
sg/aug/tar/qbz
After you have been wrong several times you finally bring your 5% of players line in. Sadly you made the mistake of following it up with people who play crossfire. If you had referenced accounts and individuals you probably would have been right. Luckily, you didn’t. Due to the widespread availability of the SG and the fact that people will make alternate accounts to try/use guns they don’t have on their main.Okay well you go rock pub games and you go rock scrims with your oh so amazing SG552. But once you can actually come to me and say that more than 5% of the people who play crossfire actually use this weapon, and use it good at that. Then you can prove my original statement wrong, instead of laughing and pointing out something irrelevant.
Your added limiter “and, use it good at that” doesn’t really help your case. Due to the ambiguity of good, it’s hard for the third party to decide the separation of good and bad is at. Each person has different standards. You make no reference to the standards, so the reader must use their standards.
Your original statement was already proven wrong by the 3rd post. The posts you made after your first statement tended to deviate away from the topic of the thread.
I make my appearance in the thread. I state that there are some very good players who use the sg. For me to considering a player good with the sg is a moot point. In my area good is relative. It doesn’t really matter which gun you use, but what you can do with it that gives you an advantage. If I am playing a support/flank role, I will probably use a silenced gun to keep my location unknown to the other team. If I am in a long range burst/single shot role I would use the sg/aug/tar/k2, and etc.there are some very good players who use the sg
way better players than you will ever be
I also avoid ambiguity by saying the players I know are better than you will ever be.
I guess I am. I have re-read your posts a few times. Each time I laugh abit more at how outrageous you are being. You came into a thread and were irrelevant from stage 1.Are you mentally ******ed? Holy fck you amazed me by reaching a new level of stupidity. Re-read what I said, over and over and over again till it gets through to your stupid little brain.
Amazed with our stupidity? You are the one that was off topic from the get go. Never knew I was standing. Yes you were dissing the sg. I like the awesome random insult towards aim operative.Okay I'm sorry, you guys have amazed me with your stupidity for today. I never said the gun was bad. I just said a very little or close to no one uses SG552. Which is a fact.
Yes SOME good, known SG552 users exists, but how many? 40, 50, 100, 200, 500? How many people play Crossfire? 30,000, 50,000, 100,000?
But my point from the very beginning again was that very little people use it. That's all I said. So sit your ass down little clowns. I'm not dissing your SG552 or your weapon of choice and I really don't give a shjt if you use SG552, Aimoperative, you idiot, so don't ask me if I have a problem.
Showed my experience in S&D, giving validity to my posts.maybe it is you that needs to do the reading
Here are my credentials, where are yours?
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I left your posts in their entirety, so everyone can see the fact that you haven’t been able to hold a consistent argument throughout the thread.Why don't you finish quoting the entire quote, genius? I simply stated my opinion and then reinstated that my point wasn't on how well it preforms but rather on usage.
Do you honestly think that you can show that list that you consider impressive to a non competitive player and think that he'd care? It's like me showing you my amazing portfolio of my photoshop works.
My quick recap of the thread; I mainly posted it so I could lure an attack out of you.Because the rest of the quote is irrelevent to what FFFFFUU said. Let's go through this one more time line by line.
notice your word choice.
who /ho 1. What or which person or people.
as opposed to asking about the quantity of SG users
Especially in GM => The context leads us to this. The gun is poor in all modes, especially GM.
Poster was caught off guard by you random assumptions about S&D play.
The phrasing here gives us this: The SG is only good against low skilled opponents.
Bringing in my opinion on the matter.
You acting tough. I like oL in location. Pretty sure the people in oL wouldn't want to hang out with an idiot such as yourself on lan. You might wanna take that out.
Now where were we?The rest of your post was irrelevant to the first 3 posts in the conversation. Then in a further post after realizing you were wrong, you added "Well I am not talking about who, I am talking about how many!" and then added insults to draw the attention of future thread readers back on the people who quoted you.
If I said something blatantly fictious about photoshop and you responded with the correct answer, and then gave proof of your knowledge. Yes I would be impressed.
If we want to continue this I can go into it abit deeper. It would be better off for you if you just moved on to a new thread to randomly insult people in.
In this post I am finally getting to my purpose, baiting you in for the grand expose.
You did a good job of contradicting yourself through out the whole thread. Go ahead and just read this post again. No need for the cover up now, sometimes it’s too little too late.You broke everything down? lolwhat. "especially in GM" was supposed to mean that it does pretty bad in GM. Sure I could've used another word of "especially" but I expected the reader to get my message to bare understanding.
"The phrasing here gives us this: The SG is only good against low skilled opponents."
Hell every gun does good against bad players, I haven't seen any play of SG552 doing good against good players and avoided commenting on that.
I'm honestly done arguing here. I act tough? Hell, sure I do. I'm in oL, yes. You think I don't belong in it? Take it to Bruce. See to it I get kicked or whatever that you want. Seems like you're the one trying to act tough here.
"Who even uses SG552/Camo?" was meant to be read as "Not very many people use SG552". You do have good literacy skills, right? You can understand more than what each word represents, right?
You're making it out of your way to make it seem like I said SG552 is a bad gun where I haven't said so directly. That's that.
I'm not randomly insulting anyone, once you pop out of no where and go "LOL no" or "better players than you will ever be" to what someone says, that's where an argument starts. So once you blame everything on me. Remember you're fuelling it as well.
On a side note, I think I might talk with Bruce. I was one of the originals he approached about the club when he first made it. I think I would be honored to join if he public disowned you from the group.This is your last chance. Read the title of the thread. Respond again negatively if you wish to continue. The argument has been over since the first post. It was over even before you posted in the thread.
Just a quick fyi before we continue. In the competitive community (~500 people) or so, lots of people use the SG. Most teams have at least 1 or 2 people who SG regularly.
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you will find your answer in this thread
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=164944
nihilism is a *****
What do you plan to do now tough guy? I'm not going to read all that. Good job writing it and proving me wrong, (If you did). -
What do you plan to do now though guy? I'm not going to read all that. Good job writing it and proving me wrong, (If you did).
Let me help you out, in that case.
The point is that there is no point. Resistance is futile.
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Omg..I was jst talking about the recoil guyz..Why was this turning into a war? lol.
Like i said i was adjusting the gun's sound so i went in the game wif my clannie with 3 of the loudest guns. For the first time holding an SG552 Camo i was supprised with the recoil. -
In a PUB, maybe. Or against some really bad team in scrim. Besides I'm not talking about usefulness... I'm just mentioning on how no one uses or cares for this weapon.
Actually lots of people use it in scrims and 5v5s in E8.. It's the new WOGL-allowed Scrub.. -
Omg..I was jst talking about the recoil guyz..Why was this turning into a war? lol.
Like i said i was adjusting the gun's sound so i went in the game wif my clannie with 3 of the loudest guns. For the first time holding an SG552 Camo i was supprised with the recoil.
actually - i thank you 4 posting the pics (no joke)
i honestly thought the spray pattern of the SG-Camo was exactly the same as the regular-SG, but the pictures show the spray pattern of the SG-Camo is actually a lot "tighter" than the regular SG.
even though barely any uses SG's, it might come in handy once in a blue moon that one spray is tighter than the other.
good info for the few SG users..... -
I'm not pointing fingers, I am pointing out contradictions. The topic wasn't the SG as a whole. The topic is specifically about the recoil of the SG
Thread Title: The SG552 Camo’s Recoil?? rofl
Let’s start at the thread title. This thread is about the recoil of the SG. The “?? Rofl” is there to draw people in and see what is surprising about the recoil on the SG.
The OP was stating how he was testing the gun’s sound set, when he found out something very surprising about the recoil of the SG. Since there are only 2 people in the room and it is his clan mate, one can assume that it was not a serious game. [FONT="]The mode the map is in is irrelevant. It would of made no difference if he was on ship when he found out about the recoil of SG when he was testing it’s sound signature. [/FONT]This is backed up even further by emptying of full clips against the walls in spots the ghosts are unlikely to be in.
[FONT="][/FONT]
Once again please note that the thread is about the surprising lack of recoil, not the soundstage. The OP even goes on to remark that he hopes that his "discovery" about the recoil will be news to players.
Right away you question who, not how many. This is important in the next post. Now on to other more interesting things.
Definition of especially: [FONT="] in particular : particularly <food seems cheaper, especially meats> [/FONT]
[FONT="]The example in the definition applies to this case. Players don’t seem to use the sg, especially in ghost mode.[/FONT]
Poster was confused about your statement that SG is not good, especially in ghostmode. He reference how the SG is one of the top guns in S&D.
In the first sentence you talk about the quality of the SG. It is the type of gun you would only use against bad players, such as a m9.
In the second sentence you state that no one uses or cares about this weapon. This is again wrong, as there are many players in s&d who use the sg. One can come to the conclusion that even more people use the SG due to its availability.
http://crossfire.z8games.com/guide_weapons_primary_assault_rifles.aspx
you can get both the SG and SG-camo in different ways. This adds to the probability that people own and use the sg.
Poster states that he uses the SG to backup his m4. You randomly attack him in a later post.
Poster gives the list of the common weapons in competitive S&D play. This answers your question of who uses the SG.
After you have been wrong several times you finally bring your 5% of players line in. Sadly you made the mistake of following it up with people who play crossfire. If you had referenced accounts and individuals you probably would have been right. Luckily, you didn’t. Due to the widespread availability of the SG and the fact that people will make alternate accounts to try/use guns they don’t have on their main.
Your added limiter “and, use it good at that” doesn’t really help your case. Due to the ambiguity of good, it’s hard for the third party to decide the separation of good and bad is at. Each person has different standards. You make no reference to the standards, so the reader must use their standards.
Your original statement was already proven wrong by the 3rd post. The posts you made after your first statement tended to deviate away from the topic of the thread.
I make my appearance in the thread. I state that there are some very good players who use the sg. For me to considering a player good with the sg is a moot point. In my area good is relative. It doesn’t really matter which gun you use, but what you can do with it that gives you an advantage. If I am playing a support/flank role, I will probably use a silenced gun to keep my location unknown to the other team. If I am in a long range burst/single shot role I would use the sg/aug/tar/k2, and etc.
I also avoid ambiguity by saying the players I know are better than you will ever be.
I guess I am. I have re-read your posts a few times. Each time I laugh abit more at how outrageous you are being. You came into a thread and were irrelevant from stage 1.
Amazed with our stupidity? You are the one that was off topic from the get go. Never knew I was standing. Yes you were dissing the sg. I like the awesome random insult towards aim operative.
Showed my experience in S&D, giving validity to my posts.
I left your posts in their entirety, so everyone can see the fact that you haven’t been able to hold a consistent argument throughout the thread.
My quick recap of the thread; I mainly posted it so I could lure an attack out of you.
In this post I am finally getting to my purpose, baiting you in for the grand expose.
You did a good job of contradicting yourself through out the whole thread. Go ahead and just read this post again. No need for the cover up now, sometimes it’s too little too late.
On a side note, I think I might talk with Bruce. I was one of the originals he approached about the club when he first made it. I think I would be honored to join if he public disowned you from the group.
I love it when a plan comes together.
HAHAHAHAHAH i love u bro. no ****
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