AWM vs Dragunov

Forewarning:
I do not mean this to be a flame thread. But since the old forum topics didn't transfer, there is currently no thread about the two top tier sniper rifles. For anyone who is on the fence about which rifle to buy, through discussion we can identify the merits and shortcomings of both sniper rifles, and help them make an informed decision.

So basically, if you're post is going to be anything like these:
"Dragunov sucks"
"AWM is noob"
"Dragunov = useless"
"AWM is for those who can't aim"

At least back up your statements with some form of reasoning, even if it is a repeat. At least then we understand where you are coming from.
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  • Draggy
    Its quicker.
    And its still a one hit kill in the stomach not much difference in aiming.
    And its possibly a little lighter?
    And its good for no scoping
  • psg is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Post above me is what I meant about posts without reasoning. He makes a claim about another sniper rifle (PSG) and does not say why he thinks this way. Also, can we keep the discussion to AWM vs Dragunov, since PSG cannot be bought (only available through SP crates at the moment) and people considering the two probably don't like their M700.

    My 2 cents:
    Dragunov:
    Pros:
    Higher ROF
    Higher Damage (compared to M700)
    *Faster Reload
    *Faster travel speed
    *Faster draw speed
    Less identifiable gunshot

    *Notice: These are Pros for the Dragunov but not Cons for the AWM, because an AWM user doesn't walk around with their AWM out (usually). A Dragunov user (from my experience) can keep their Dragunov out as a rush rifle for closer range combat.

    Cons:
    Inconsistent Damage
    Imperfect Accuracy

    The Breakdown: The most often cited reason of Dragunov-haters is the inconsistency of its 1 hit kill. Also, the average person who has used the Dragunov picked it up in Crossroads, tried to countersnipe the AWM user, and was dispatched by said AWM user.

    Review:
    From my experience with it, the Dragunov performs quite remarkably. Its accuracy is comparable to the M700, and thus Head shots can be made. The upgrade from the M700 is that it has higher damage and is capable of killing in 1 hit, albeit inconsistently.

    AWM:
    Pros:
    1 hit kill to any bodypart above waist
    Maximum accuracy

    Cons:
    Slower ROF
    Slower Draw Speed

    The Breakdown: AWM-haters will say that since the AWM user only has to hit them above the waist, it is a "no-skill gun" or a "noob weapon". That is the only reason really ever cited by AWM-haters, since there are so few of them.

    Review: I like the AWM. It's 1 hit kill capability is great. It's accuracy is staggering. It does leave you defenseless if you are not familiar with quick-scoping in close range/ don't have a good pistol. The annoying thing is that its high accuracy is not ever really needed (except when aiming at someone elbow protruding from a window to get a kill).

    Basic Knowledge:
    1) The AWM is the most common gun due to its consistent 1 hit kill capability.
    2) Dragunov is capable of performing 1 hit kills without a headshot. (Exact probabilities for hitboxes and ranges unknown as of now)
    3) The weight of a gun is usually not considered to be a negative, since the effect can be negated by switching weapon to a knife or pistol.
  • MisterVo wrote: »
    *Notice: These are Pros for the Dragunov but not Cons for the AWM, because an AWM user doesn't walk around with their AWM out (usually). A Dragunov user (from my experience) can keep their Dragunov out as a rush rifle for closer range combat.

    Basic Knowledge:
    1) The AWM is the most common gun due to its consistent 1 hit kill capability.
    2) Dragunov is capable of performing 1 hit kills without a headshot. (Exact probabilities for hitboxes and ranges unknown as of now)
    3) The weight of a gun is usually not considered to be a negative, since the effect can be negated by switching weapon to a knife or pistol.


    Erm I do walk around with my AWM. I use it as a rifle in close range ._.
    Dragunov is confirmed 1 shot kill on stomach at all ranges.
  • Thank you for the information about the Dragunov, but are you sure? This has been a point of contention in the last forum, since no one has done true methodical tests of the Dragunov (yet).
  • psg is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Draggy is not for competitive play. Nor is PSG.

    That is all.
  • draggy is better for close/medium range and awm is better for medium/long range

    /thread
  • lbrettl wrote: »
    Draggy
    Its quicker.
    And its still a one hit kill in the stomach not much difference in aiming.
    And its possibly a little lighter?
    And its good for no scoping
    Dragonov sucks, i use it in Crossroad and it doesn't one hit kill AWM is a one hit kill you fail.
  • lmaostfuuu wrote: »
    Dragonov sucks, i use it in Crossroad and it doesn't one hit kill AWM is a one hit kill you fail.

    you fail sir, cause you dont know where to aim with it
  • i have 2 accounts for them, ArticMagnum and DraggyExpert, their name says all lol, but i didnt bought them yet and i think that u should use both like their real-life counterpart

    Draggy for medium sniping and AWM for long range shooting
    Draggy is one hit kill at med range while awm is a one hit kill at long distance
    Draggy is for marksmen, those who runs around, AWM is for snipers, those who camps

    when i will test both, i will tell more
  • No i aim at the stomach it doesn't kill them in one hit, i'll show you if you come to the rooms i play in crossroad, it's a sucky gun to me to you sure it's not but to me damn straight it is.
  • Bruce1nR wrote: »
    Draggy is not for competitive play. Nor is PSG.

    That is all.

    i agree completely!
  • 1 hour ago before i got kicked in crossroad i pwned with it at lond range and don't want to talk about mid range.
    i'll buy one when i'll have gp.
  • MisterVo wrote: »
    Forewarning:
    I do not mean this to be a flame thread. But since the old forum topics didn't transfer, there is currently no thread about the two top tier sniper rifles. For anyone who is on the fence about which rifle to buy, through discussion we can identify the merits and shortcomings of both sniper rifles, and help them make an informed decision.

    So basically, if you're post is going to be anything like these:
    "Dragunov sucks"
    "AWM is noob"
    "Dragunov = useless"
    "AWM is for those who can't aim"

    At least back up your statements with some form of reasoning, even if it is a repeat. At least then we understand where you are coming from.

    you are worng about the AWM-you have to be able to aim to use the gun, AWM is the best gun in CF if you know how to use it
  • SeaSp4rrow wrote: »
    i have 2 accounts for them, ArticMagnum and DraggyExpert, their name says all lol, but i didnt bought them yet and i think that u should use both like their real-life counterpart

    Draggy for medium sniping and AWM for long range shooting
    Draggy is one hit kill at med range while awm is a one hit kill at long distance
    Draggy is for marksmen, those who runs around, AWM is for snipers, those who camps

    when i will test both, i will tell more

    the maps here are too small to support a good sniping match,
    in CA there is a huge map called snow vally, you can figure our what it is by the name
    in OP7 there is a huge map called swine winder, it's a HUGE HUGE HUGE desert, IT"S GIGANTIC, it offers almost no cover exapt for a few hill. the perfect sniping zone, I used SR-25 hen I was there......good times.....good times.
    in warrock there is a huge map called......well everymap is huge =.=
    in CS there is a map called AIM-AWM, where you use AWM and.....you get it.
  • People can own you if you are just mastered with the Dragonuv with an AWM, they run around with the AWM and not get even HIT i mean i even seen it myself like I said Dragonuvs are useless and thats my backup statement.
  • To most of the posts above me:
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    AND

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    Please read that this thread is to help people on the fence about the two guns.

    Stating your opinion and saying "That is all" does not make you look like an authority. It gives the impression that you're arrogant about what you say.

    Yes I am being condescending, but really. Read the first post.
  • MisterVo wrote: »
    To most of the posts above me:
    w7cznl.jpg

    AND

    21a0eoo.jpg

    Please read that this thread is to help people on the fence about the two guns.

    Stating your opinion and saying "That is all" does not make you look like an authority. It gives the impression that you're arrogant about what you say.

    Yes I am being condescending, but really. Read the first post.
    why can't you just type those images in a sentence by yourself? let alone having an image do it for you, exhibit b the Failure.
  • you are worng about the AWM-you have to be able to aim to use the gun, AWM is the best gun in CF if you know how to use it

    I was not saying the AWM sucks or that it's a noob weapon. The line above the quoted examples states:
    MisterVo wrote: »
    So basically, if you're post is going to be anything like these:

    This means that posts like that are not the type that should be put in this thread.

    I'm sorry to do this as a response to you, and it is actually for everyone else posting short insubstantial comments, but I think this picture is hilarious. :D

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  • Draggy for me. But most ppl like the AWM cuz its reliable.
  • pieman777 wrote: »
    Draggy for me. But most ppl like the AWM cuz its reliable.

    I have no offense to the Draggy it's just it's not suited out for ME i mean the awm is always the best choice, and if you have a deagle your suited if you can pull that baby out in the nick of time.
  • MisterVo wrote: »
    To most of the posts above me:
    w7cznl.jpg

    AND

    21a0eoo.jpg

    Please read that this thread is to help people on the fence about the two guns.

    Stating your opinion and saying "That is all" does not make you look like an authority. It gives the impression that you're arrogant about what you say.

    Yes I am being condescending, but really. Read the first post.

    what the.......*censored* dragunov isnt a facepalm gun, i just goy kicked from crossroad for shooting a awm user in the eye and all his team
  • lmaostfuuu wrote: »
    why can't you just type those images in a sentence by yourself? let alone having an image do it for you, exhibit b the Failure.

    Because a picture is worth a thousand words my friend. Instead of explicitly saying someone fails, which by itself is extremely short and quite weak by comparison.

    I choose to place a picture, which is somewhat amusing to maintain a lighthearted atmosphere. Is that a satisfactory response? And again, can we stick to the topic of AWM vs Dragunov? Thank You
  • MisterVo wrote: »
    can we stick to the topic of AWM vs Dragunov? Thank You

    After you sir, you fail XD
  • lmaostfuuu wrote: »
    After you sir, you fail XD

    you 128347587844687500fail.jpg
    end of debate with you, I'm tired of idiots.
  • sadow333 wrote: »
    you 128347587844687500fail.jpg
    end of debate with you, I'm tired of idiots.

    lmfao, so funny!
  • lmaostfuuu wrote: »
    After you sir, you fail XD

    ...how old are you?
  • 17, I act childish sometimes becaue i find it funny.
  • I'm tired to idiots,
    I'm tired of OMFG ZOMBIE MODE!!! thread
    I'm tired of idiots that says M4A1 is better than M16A2 in real life til I filed a whole report in their face
    I'm tired of idiots who want gernade launcher
    I'm tired of idiots who want tanks.
    I'm tired of the self centered ZP idiot (no offence to all ZP users, it's only that one guy)
    and now I'm tired of this idiot who posted above me,
    please....please make the idioticy stop, it's lowing my IQ.