CF Forum Experiment

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  • 1. No. I'd have to be pretty damn sure before accusing someone of cheating.
    2. No. I don't kick without having seen the evidence.
    3. Either side. Fair play is more important to me than winning.
    4. No. I've seen hackers of any rank.
    5. No. I've seen whole clans hack.
    6. No. SL is annoying at times, but not kick-worthy.
    7. No. Unless you started spamming all over my screen with that sh
    it.

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  • nos somos jogadores normais, assim como os outros.
  • apenas temos um ping maior... e jogamos melhor que a maioria.
  • sgisf wrote: »
    why everybody hates BRs??
    I don't hate them. I just don't like them filling my screen with spam.

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  • In short, I wouldn't kick someone with such little evidence.
    Rank doesn't affect anything.
    His clan or lack thereof doesn't affect anything.
    His language doesn't affect anything.
  • Okay well I think you're getting a good number of replies. Want to tell us what the experiment is on exactly?
  • iPhoenixi wrote: »
    Okay well I think you're getting a good number of replies. Want to tell us what the experiment is on exactly?

    Testing the community's mentality? Forumers always claim the others are those causing problems but these answers clearly prove we're raist too and are exactly like those we blame.
  • 1) No
    2) No
    3) Neither
    4) No
    5) No
    6) No
    7) No
  • Henryblah wrote: »
    Please participate in this little experiment of mine.
    Watch this short video.

    Then answer the short questions below, based on the gameplay, rather than whether you like my personality etc

    1) Would you actively seek to kick vote Henryblah, either by complaining/starting the kick vote? (If Yes, Skip Q2)
    2) Would you press F11 if a kick vote was started?
    3) On which team would you be more likely to kick Henryblah?
    4) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was a lower rank, e.g. corporal, sergeant?
    5) If Henryblah was clanless, would you be more inclined to kick?
    6) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was using a Scar Light/M12s instead of M4?
    7) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah started talking Portuguese?

    End of Questions

    I just want to see how you guys go about identifying hackers and what factors affect your judgement.

    Sample Answers
    1) No
    2) No
    3) BL
    4) Yes
    5) Yes
    6) No
    7) No

    1)No
    2)No
    3)Doesn't really matter to me.
    4)Not really
    5)not really
    6)Guns aren't a reason to kick. No
    7)I don't care what language someone speaks.
  • Interesting results guys. I'm collating the results and will see where it leads me :D
    However, the more results the better
  • I've already posted my results, but I will bump this thread in the name of science!
  • No
    No
    BL
    Yea
    Yea
    No
    No



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  • 1) Would you actively seek to kick vote Henryblah, either by complaining/starting the kick vote? (If Yes, Skip Q2)
    2) Would you press F11 if a kick vote was started?
    3) On which team would you be more likely to kick Henryblah?
    4) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was a lower rank, e.g. corporal, sergeant?
    5) If Henryblah was clanless, would you be more inclined to kick?
    6) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was using a Scar Light/M12s instead of M4?
    7) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah started talking Portuguese?


    1.) yes kik the haking turd
    2.) i know im suppossedm to skip but f11 the haking [EMAIL="f.@.ggoy"]f.@.ggoy[/EMAIL]
    3.) both a hackers a hacker they should all be eradicated
    4.) a hacker is a hacker kik the f.2>ggot already
    5.) see answer to 4
    6.) see answer to 4
    7.) again see answer to number 4 (anyways the only reason id kik him for that was if his ping matched his language if u catch my drift)
  • 1.) No
    2.) if it was tdm, yes. I press f11 in all tdm vote kicks, because im not paying attention
    3.) opposite team. your team probably dosent pay attention to the kills upper right hand corner
    4.) No.
    5.) If it is a BR clan...Yes
    6.) Yes
    7.) yes
    • 1) Would you actively seek to kick vote Henryblah, either by complaining/starting the kick vote? (If Yes, Skip Q2)
    No, usually when encountering a hacker or a skilled player I remain quiet. Saving the report to review later just in case, but I avoid voicing such complaints unless extremely and blatantly obvious.
    • 2) Would you press F11 if a kick vote was started?
    No. It's very easy to get a high streak especially in such crowded areas. In TD it's not impossible to constantly get 5-9 streaks. Especially with an accurate M4.
    • 3) On which team would you be more likely to kick Henryblah?
    Neither, he isn't doing anything super amazing that would even merit a kick. Looks legit and was probably happy about obtaining such a streak like most would.
    • 4) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was a lower rank, e.g. corporal, sergeant?
    I would be more skeptical, but still not kick. It would definitely cause me to remember to save and review the replay since alts aren't always for pro players.
    • 5) If Henryblah was clanless, would you be more inclined to kick?
    Naw, if I was going to kick, I would do it regardless of clan or loyalties. If someone was breaking the rules in my clan, I would kick them and inform the one in charge. So being clanless has no real bearing.
    • 6) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was using a Scar Light/M12s instead of M4?
    In TD I don't care as much, but the SL is an okay gun in my books. But the M12 is definitely annoying. Probably wouldn't kick since half a dozen of my teammates and their's probably have one so.... a bit fruitless for doing so unless its in GM or SnD.
    • 7) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah started talking Portuguese?
    No. Their ping may factor in, but never their language unless they were spamming (against the rules). Plenty of PT's with low pings. Although many times I wish they were respectful enough to not put the barrier between us.

    Granted, a bit more video might have changed such an opinion as I usually observe a suspicious player for more than one life to see their style and gameplay while checking for suspicious notions.
  • man talon you got some real rose colored glasses there he abvious hack if u look alot of his shots point at chest and then boom hs out of nowheres he deffinently hack and i would rager probably a br
  • reddeath68 wrote: »
    man talon you got some real rose colored glasses there he abvious hack if u look alot of his shots point at chest and then boom hs out of nowheres he deffinently hack and i would rager probably a br

    You also forget that the replay files don't always accurately display mouse movements properly. It's a simple hand gesture to move the mouse upwards or across. I never have to do much hand movement to kill an enemy. I also know how insanely easy to aim with the M4 is. His accuracy isn't superb as he had trouble getting the one near the end as well where he panicked from probably low ammo and the spraydowns. Almost all of his enemies were visible at one point or another before he killed them as well.
  • 1) No
    2) No
    3) BL
    4) Yes
    5) Yes
    6) No
    7) No


    (psst, I copy pasted cause I didn't know how to answer)
  • OK, here's the preliminary results and the main things I was trying to find out from this experiment. Bear in mind, these results are heavily biased towards the English speaking, FORUM community. Meaning results are very likely to be different elsewhere.

    I don't know about any of you guys, but if someone does that at the start of the round (which it was) and someone vote kicks, you have to make a snap decision. Whether you wait a while to check, but risk not being able to kick. Or you would consider certain factors, and whether or not they would bias your judgement, e.g. Rank, Clan, Gun, Race.

    Firstly I wanted to find out how many people would kick Henryblah outright/report me just from seeing some short footage. In my opinion and many others, this is generally not considered enough to be damning evidence. However, at the moment it is higher than I thought it would be, even in a forum community, the figure stands at 11.1%.

    Next I wanted to find out if people were more likely to kick if a kick vote came up. Either because if someone else believes it, they're more likely to be a hacker, or if it just confirmed their doubts. Not surprisingly, the people that would kick increased by 25%. (That is on top of the 11.1% that would already kick Henryblah)

    So, what would influence that snap decision? I only put 4 options there to keep it simple. I know there are a lot more different factors concerned in actual gaming, but I thought I would just put it out there and see what the results were.

    Rank was very likely to bias the kick vote for/against you. With 58% of the people being more inclined to kick a very low/high ranked player.

    Using SL/M12s, often seen as Overpowered weapons by many people, would influence the decision making of 41% of people, despite the fact that it was a public match and people are allowed to use whatever they want.

    What Clan/Or Clanless was tied with speaking Portuguese at 27.7%. Clan I can sort of understand, but speaking Portuguese? That was just as likely to get you kicked.

    So there were the results, I hope you didn't think that survey was too hard to fill out. :)

    Finally, I wanted this to be slightly educational. You have to take it from me that I know that Henryblah was not hacking, I was staring at his screen the whole time. So, think long and hard the next time you press F11. Not just thinking about someone else, also think about why YOU get kicked. Could it possibly be because of the same reasons you kick other people?

    Also feel free to draw your own conclusions, completely ignore what I said. It's just what I think...
  • Would you actively seek to kick vote Henryblah, either by complaining/starting the kick vote? (If Yes, Skip Q2) No
    2) Would you press F11 if a kick vote was started? No
    3) On which team would you be more likely to kick Henryblah? Bl
    4) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was a lower rank, e.g. corporal, sergeant? No
    5) If Henryblah was clanless, would you be more inclined to kick? No
    6) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was using a Scar Light/M12s instead of M4? Yes
    7) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah started talking Portuguese? No
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  • i wonder though if these results would be differnt if we wernt in the middle of a hacking epidemic and a forigner invasion in game
  • 1) Nope
    2) Yes if the person who is being kicked uses hacks. If not, no
    3) Both
    4) No
    5) No
    6) Half yes, half no. I kick m12s not scar light
    7) Who would say no to this answer? Yes
  • I'd only press f11 or start a vote kick if i see something suspicious.
  • 1) Would you actively seek to kick vote Henryblah, either by complaining/starting the kick vote? (If Yes, Skip Q2)
    no because i know you, i've played u, and im in ur clan
    2) Would you press F11 if a kick vote was started?
    no cause of reasons above
    3) On which team would you be more likely to kick Henryblah?
    the team where henry is blowing my head off
    4) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was a lower rank, e.g. corporal, sergeant?
    no, ppl start new accounts all the time.
    5) If Henryblah was clanless, would you be more inclined to kick?
    nope
    6) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah was using a Scar Light/M12s instead of M4?
    no because that means he's more legit
    7) Would you be more inclined to kick if Henryblah started talking Portuguese?
    uh any language i dont understand, and depends what he's saying, if its insulting yeah

    :P i see im a bit late
  • Henryblah wrote: »
    OK, here's the preliminary results and the main things I was trying to find out from this experiment. Bear in mind, these results are heavily biased towards the English speaking, FORUM community. Meaning results are very likely to be different elsewhere.

    I don't know about any of you guys, but if someone does that at the start of the round (which it was) and someone vote kicks, you have to make a snap decision. Whether you wait a while to check, but risk not being able to kick. Or you would consider certain factors, and whether or not they would bias your judgement, e.g. Rank, Clan, Gun, Race.

    Firstly I wanted to find out how many people would kick Henryblah outright/report me just from seeing some short footage. In my opinion and many others, this is generally not considered enough to be damning evidence. However, at the moment it is higher than I thought it would be, even in a forum community, the figure stands at 11.1%.

    Next I wanted to find out if people were more likely to kick if a kick vote came up. Either because if someone else believes it, they're more likely to be a hacker, or if it just confirmed their doubts. Not surprisingly, the people that would kick increased by 25%. (That is on top of the 11.1% that would already kick Henryblah)

    So, what would influence that snap decision? I only put 4 options there to keep it simple. I know there are a lot more different factors concerned in actual gaming, but I thought I would just put it out there and see what the results were.

    Rank was very likely to bias the kick vote for/against you. With 58% of the people being more inclined to kick a very low/high ranked player.

    Using SL/M12s, often seen as Overpowered weapons by many people, would influence the decision making of 41% of people, despite the fact that it was a public match and people are allowed to use whatever they want.

    What Clan/Or Clanless was tied with speaking Portuguese at 27.7%. Clan I can sort of understand, but speaking Portuguese? That was just as likely to get you kicked.

    So there were the results, I hope you didn't think that survey was too hard to fill out. :)

    Finally, I wanted this to be slightly educational. You have to take it from me that I know that Henryblah was not hacking, I was staring at his screen the whole time. So, think long and hard the next time you press F11. Not just thinking about someone else, also think about why YOU get kicked. Could it possibly be because of the same reasons you kick other people?

    Also feel free to draw your own conclusions, completely ignore what I said. It's just what I think...

    And people say the decent honest and intelligent players are on the forum, it's even worse in game.
  • 1) Depend of his rank.
    2) Yes.
    3) On the opposite team.
    4) Yes.
    5) No.
    6) Of course.
    7) YES.