Will Z8 be able to keep the game running ?
Hi.
This month of july is giving me memories of a
game i played and got closed 1 year ago.
So, why did it got closed ?
well, when you manage a game and you put too much "stuff" and don't care about the "stuff" buyers that wanted a decent game without to much "stuff"
that makes no sense for them; that's the reason why it got closed.
But all i wanted to say, and i know there is tons of threads saying the same is that today i've played 15 games to make the 150 kills on FFA mode.
Why ? - because there is some HIGH RANKED PLAYERS that thinks they'll not get banned for using cheats.
This week i saw a thread where one MOD said that the reason why the game still have cheaters is because there is more important things to do.
I believe that adding more useless guns and name cards will help players forget the cheaters.
Like the game that got closed a year ago, i preview the same thing to this game. Why ? That's easy - The "stuff" buyers will stop buying "stuff" and all the players that will play will be the non-"stuff" buyers, and that's when a mmo gets closed.
Trolling, swearing, and all the things with -ing, not welcomed to this thread.
This month of july is giving me memories of a
game i played and got closed 1 year ago.
So, why did it got closed ?
well, when you manage a game and you put too much "stuff" and don't care about the "stuff" buyers that wanted a decent game without to much "stuff"
that makes no sense for them; that's the reason why it got closed.
But all i wanted to say, and i know there is tons of threads saying the same is that today i've played 15 games to make the 150 kills on FFA mode.
Why ? - because there is some HIGH RANKED PLAYERS that thinks they'll not get banned for using cheats.
This week i saw a thread where one MOD said that the reason why the game still have cheaters is because there is more important things to do.
I believe that adding more useless guns and name cards will help players forget the cheaters.
Like the game that got closed a year ago, i preview the same thing to this game. Why ? That's easy - The "stuff" buyers will stop buying "stuff" and all the players that will play will be the non-"stuff" buyers, and that's when a mmo gets closed.
Trolling, swearing, and all the things with -ing, not welcomed to this thread.
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You think adding MORE guns will help stop the cheaters? Maybe that will encourage the cheaters because they have more guns to get? And besides, Saidin and the other Mods are all trying to ban and make the game better...
Well, your opinion is your opinion. O_o
Oh yeah, i agree with freeaccount1, reading was distracting with those huge colorful letters. -
U'd better read some more.cccool9252 wrote: »You think adding MORE guns will help stop the cheaters? Maybe that will encourage the cheaters because they have more guns to get? And besides, Saidin and the other Mods are all trying to ban and make the game better...
Well, your opinion is your opinion. O_o
Oh yeah, i agree with freeaccount1, reading was distracting with those huge colorful letters. -
Here are some facts (again).
The Autoban system bans hundreds if not thousands per day.
The Autoban system now leads to a permanent ban and is much more stricter than it was 3 months ago.
The Autoban system does not care about what level you are or how much you have "spent".
We review reports every day that lead to permanent bans.
Reviewed reports do not care what level you are or how much you have spent.
The rumor that the game is "dying because we don't ban high level hackers" is false. And only propagated by people in threads like this. -
Roger that.[GM]Saidin wrote: »Here are some facts (again).
The Autoban system bans hundreds if not thousands per day.
The Autoban system now leads to a permanent ban and is much more stricter than it was 3 months ago.
The Autoban system does not care about what level you are or how much you have "spent".
We review reports every day that lead to permanent bans.
Reviewed reports do not care what level you are or how much you have spent.
The rumor that the game is "dying because we don't ban high level hackers" is false. And only propagated by people in threads like this. -
Yeah, i'm mad because i can't have a decent gameplay without being with friends in private rooms.
There is public games and rooms for something.
and BTW the auto ban system is taking to long to ban hackers, as like they do kill 5 players per second. the auto ban system should be more accurate.
i believe it still in development so i understand it.
#thread.This is one of the top rated f2p fps out there. Anyone who says it's dieing is just mad. -
Yeah, i'm mad because i can't have a decent gameplay without being with friends in private rooms.
There is public games and rooms for something.
and BTW the auto ban system is taking to long to ban hackers, as like they do kill 5 players per second. the auto ban system should be more accurate.
i believe it still in development so i understand it.
#thread.
It depends on luck. Yesterday i found at least 1 hacker per game, today i didn' found hackers!!
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Hi.
This month of july is giving me memories of a
game i played and got closed 1 year ago.
So, why did it got closed ?
well, when you manage a game and you put too much "stuff" and don't care about the "stuff" buyers that wanted a decent game without to much "stuff"
that makes no sense for them; that's the reason why it got closed.
But all i wanted to say, and i know there is tons of threads saying the same is that today i've played 15 games to make the 150 kills on FFA mode.
Why ? - because there is some HIGH RANKED PLAYERS that thinks they'll not get banned for using cheats.
This week i saw a thread where one MOD said that the reason why the game still have cheaters is because there is more important things to do.
I believe that adding more useless guns and name cards will help players forget the cheaters.
Like the game that got closed a year ago, i preview the same thing to this game. Why ? That's easy - The "stuff" buyers will stop buying "stuff" and all the players that will play will be the non-"stuff" buyers, and that's when a mmo gets closed.
Trolling, swearing, and all the things with -ing, not welcomed to this thread.
Are you that failure high rank that doesn't know the difference between speed hack and lagging? -
Here is some more facts:
Many people like me get reported at least 10 times a day.
Ive never hacked therefore the Autoban system never bans me.
There is plenty of people who know who I am since ive been here through over the years. Ive known Rex when he used to have a ship and independence day avatar in subagames before he was a mod.
So yeah there are people who are my rank who play so damn good its like they have hacks and when you try to report them there sexy level is too high to get banned
Well put well put pikachu.
But yeah, I never knew there was a stricter autoban system. Other then that every report is carefully looked into and it is why ive been here for so long and never quit. I can tolerate this game unlike WarRock which probably got taken down because it got ran over with a steamroller controlled by hackers :O
I love CF and Im really surprised its rank 12 now in XFire. Oh yeah I check that everyday..
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We expect to have a fix for the speed hacking at some point. Until then you'll obviously encounter some players cheating. We've patched countless hacks before and we surely want to continue to do so. But don't expect any fix with a finger snap, this kind of stuff takes some time, either to assure that the cheat is really patched or to assure that the game is stable.
We also can't please everyone at the same time. You keep putting pressure upon Z8Games so that they give you what you want. They hear you. But the decision on which kind of content the game will be updated with is ultimately the creators'.
About the High Ranked people thinking they won't get banned. Contrary to what people say, we have zero tolerance against any cheater, either if it'is a trainee or a marshal. If they get caught by the automatic ban system, they will get banned, and if you report them, even if you think it's a slow process, they will get banned. You just have to have patience, like in any circumstance.
Is the game dying? No. We're continuously gathering more players with each update we do. And we want to maintain this statistic. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Imnplying there is one person working on the game and all they do is add content...
well obviously there is more then one person working on this and really is it so hard to believe that you guys dont give a f*k about us and yes all you do is add new content and crap just to make more money you could care less about hackers or the community
further more the people who do pay for z8 points you treat like absolute sh!t
ever since i started playing this back in 2009 you have ignored or closed all my threads you never reply to my support tickets people who i have reported for hacking are still playing...
so yea... that pretty much sums that up
"if you treat people like sh!t you're going to get sh!t on" -
We expect to have a fix for the speed hacking at some point. Until then you'll obviously encounter some players cheating. We've patched countless hacks before and we surely want to continue to do so. But don't expect any fix with a finger snap, this kind of stuff takes some time, either to assure that the cheat is really patched or to assure that the game is stable.
We also can't please everyone at the same time. You keep putting pressure upon Z8Games so that they give you what you want. They hear you. But the decision on which kind of content the game will be updated with is ultimately the creators'.
About the High Ranked people thinking they won't get banned. Contrary to what people say, we have zero tolerance against any cheater, either if it'is a trainee or a marshal. If they get caught by the automatic ban system, they will get banned, and if you report them, even if you think it's a slow process, they will get banned. You just have to have patience, like in any circumstance.
Is the game dying? No. We're continuously gathering more players with each update we do. And we want to maintain this statistic.
yea you're gaining new members but having a hard time keeping them..... -
ExportAgold wrote: »well obviously there is more then one person working on this and really is it so hard to believe that you guys dont give a f*k about us and yes all you do is add new content and crap just to make more money you could care less about hackers or the community
further more the people who do pay for z8 points you treat like absolute sh!t
ever since i started playing this back in 2009 you have ignored or closed all my threads you never reply to my support tickets people who i have reported for hacking are still playing...
so yea... that pretty much sums that up
"if you treat people like sh!t you're going to get sh!t on"
Who says we dont care? If you dont notice anything being done then its a safe bet that something IS being done but isnt ready to be released. Obviously saying "This is what we are going to do about the hacking situation" will give the hackers a head start on making new ones to counter the new update.
We HAVE to be vague about it. Thats the point.
If you had a product, and people were abusing it in such a way that could affect the profits from it, wouldnt you be doing something about it? This is exactly whats going on.
I close and ignore all your threads? Im going to have a look at these threads of yours after.
Im a Moderator. I dont deal with support tickets.
I apologise if you think we arent doing anything. Please do not sue us. -
Not true and some obvious logical fallacy going on here.the autoban system is a fail! yeah it baned accounts for 3 or 7 days 3months ago. and now it bans the accs 20days, but after these 20days they will start hacking again!
The ban duration is incremental.
The speed from player cheating to player banned is kept as short as possible.
If the player is banned, and starts cheating again, obviously hes just going to be banned again and again until its permanent. -
Obviously you don't read anything.the autoban system is a fail! yeah it baned accounts for 3 or 7 days 3months ago. and now it bans the accs 20days, but after these 20days they will start hacking again!
Saidin just said the new autoban system bans hackers permanently or for 3 months.
Its way more strict then what it was. -
a thing which would help would be something like a server/channel admin
means this:
z8 games gives rights to some players they trust in.
one player is responsible for a channel on a server. this player has the right to bann player from his channel permanently or only for some days, etc.
then the admin of the server gets a message, for example "XY got banned from channel 7".
then he could join to the person who got banned from a channel and can prove wheter hes a ha.cker.
if he is, he keeps banned from the channel. if the server admin thinks he dont use any ha.cks he can join the channel he got banned from. (this proves that no good players become banned only because he annoyed the channel admin)
so aftert this system a ha.cker is away from the channel and at the end hes even banned on all servers. -
ExportAgold wrote: »you have ignored or closed all my threads you never reply to my support tickets...
When your ticket looks like this:
"yea try telling me this ***in ****** doesnt use some form of hacks"
You're probably going to receive a standard answer from support and probably close off the ticket.
Additionally, hack reports to the folder get closed automatically. And players you've reported have already been banned.. some by the auto system some by us. -
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Right, clearly someone is severely misinformed or delusional.
The only account block you can buy your way out of are CHARGEBACKS, because chargeback means you owe us money and won't have access to your account until you pay.
Cheaters never get unbanned manually. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »Here are some facts (again).
The Autoban system bans hundreds if not thousands per day.
The Autoban system now leads to a permanent ban and is much more stricter than it was 3 months ago.
The Autoban system does not care about what level you are or how much you have "spent".
We review reports every day that lead to permanent bans.
Reviewed reports do not care what level you are or how much you have spent.
The rumor that the game is "dying because we don't ban high level hackers" is false. And only propagated by people in threads like this.
sounds nice, n everytime it sounds more nicer. but with out a good result?
just look around the game, everyroom's atleast 1 speeder or 1 hitter..
if ur anti cheat system is working correctly ,why it's leading the game to this way?
look at CF china, they r using the xtrap aswell? y they don have any speeder or 1 hitters?
beside a few rare aimbot n chammer.. -
forever119 wrote: »sounds nice, n everytime it sounds more nicer. but with out a good result?
just look around the game, everyroom's atleast 1 speeder or 1 hitter..
if ur anti cheat system is working correctly ,why it's leading the game to this way?
look at CF china, they r using the xtrap aswell? y they don have any speeder or 1 hitters?
beside a few rare aimbot n chammer..
They cant bann players who look "suspicious" because there would be a **** load of good players getting banned for no reasons. And yes, theres still alot of hackers but we cant do anything but reporting them... -
Stop runnING and foolING around like your the first person to to be screamING his head off about how this game is comING to a end.
I think you have been lurkING and stalkING the forum, waitING for your chance to make a big scene.
INGINGINGINGINGINGING ok im done now.
take the hint, punk!
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