THOMPSON'S RIVAL GUN & a no scoped rifle
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Now I would suggest a more modern bolt action rifle, but I cant think of any.
Unless you can think of one for me?
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
BOTH IN SAME ZP CRATE. LIMITED TIME ONLY...? C:
**M1891 (Rifle)
NO SCOPE
Same damage as AWM.
Bolt action
5/30 clip (4.2 second reload)
Recoil equal to AWM
1.7 seconds between each shot
Weight slightly greater than PSG-1
Accuracy & Range equal to AK-47
We also need a popular gun to oppose the popular Tommy gun. Nuff' said.
I tried to look for more modern weapons to rival it, but the problem was:
1. I couldnt find any equal
2. The time range of the Thompson was next to the PPSH.
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
**PPSH-41 (Smg)
Accuracy equal to Tommy gun
Rate of fire slightly greater than Tommy gun
Power slightly weaker than Tommy gun
Weight slightly lighter than Tommy gun
71/142 box magazine (3.8 second reload)
Unless you can think of one for me?
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
BOTH IN SAME ZP CRATE. LIMITED TIME ONLY...? C:
**M1891 (Rifle)
NO SCOPE
Same damage as AWM.
Bolt action
5/30 clip (4.2 second reload)
Recoil equal to AWM
1.7 seconds between each shot
Weight slightly greater than PSG-1
Accuracy & Range equal to AK-47
We also need a popular gun to oppose the popular Tommy gun. Nuff' said.
I tried to look for more modern weapons to rival it, but the problem was:
1. I couldnt find any equal
2. The time range of the Thompson was next to the PPSH.
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
**PPSH-41 (Smg)
Accuracy equal to Tommy gun
Rate of fire slightly greater than Tommy gun
Power slightly weaker than Tommy gun
Weight slightly lighter than Tommy gun
71/142 box magazine (3.8 second reload)
Comments
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**M1891 (Rifle)
NO SCOPE
Same damage as AWM.
Bolt action
5/30 clip (4.2 second reload)
Recoil equal to AWM
1.7 seconds between each shot
Weight slightly greater than PSG-1
Accuracy & Range equal to AK-47
That would be so over powered... you do realize how easy it is to aim a gun unscoped? -
Sick_Virus wrote: »That would be so over powered... you do realize how easy it is to aim a gun unscoped?
First, I said dont just talk. If you disagree with something, post your modification.
Second, hardly anybody is good with the Winchester. It would be HARDER to use a slower gun with ONLY 5 bullets. Think logically.
Clearly this would only work for the skilled. But it would STILL make them turn around to using their pistols at many times. -
First, I said dont just talk. If you disagree with something, post your modification.
Second, hardly anybody is good with the Winchester. It would be HARDER to use a slower gun with ONLY 5 bullets. Think logically.
Clearly this would only work for the skilled. But it would STILL make them turn around to using their pistols at many times.
Yeah but Winchester isn't a 1 hit kill at every range now is it?
And the SMG looks over powered O.o
I still love that weapon ;D -
First, I said dont just talk. If you disagree with something, post your modification.
Second, hardly anybody is good with the Winchester. It would be HARDER to use a slower gun with ONLY 5 bullets. Think logically.
Clearly this would only work for the skilled. But it would STILL make them turn around to using their pistols at many times.
you said its accuracy is like the ak47, which is nearly dead on all the time on the first shot (which would be REALLY over powered) if people wanted a gun like this then they would use a sniper.
i think giving it the power of an m700 or something would be much better if it had that accuracy -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Yeah but Winchester isn't a 1 hit kill at every range now is it?
And the SMG looks over powered O.o
I still love that weapon ;D
Nope. The AWM is though. This is the AWM with no scope, and the beefy version of the winchester. It has a slow firing rate, and a slow reload with only 5 bullets. It's going to be REALLY hard to use. People may have good aim, but watch how many of them miss their first shots. That's what balanced this.
I did research before I just posted it's stats. I compared everything about that ppsh-41 to the Thompson. It's Tommy's brother c: -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Well the ppsh is great...but this one just looks a beefed up version of the Tommy which annoys the crap out of me. But I would love to see more variety.
As for the rifle...maybe make it a 2 hit kill...1 hit seems too over powered.
Thanks @ ppsh c:
Hmm.... I understand how the rifle is OP. But I see it as a weapon requiring skill because of the 5 bullets per clip, slow reload, and rof. I see it exactly like an AWM but with no scope. Do you mind telling me how you're looking at this so I can get a better perspective? -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »The thing is...mostly everyone lands their first shot and it has great accuracy. The ROF wont matter if they can run and take cover. They can easily hit you.
Im still seeing from the same point of view as an awm..... with no scope. Because alot of people land their first AWM shot as well. I would also EXPECT a rifle like this to have more range than an AK because it's that way in real life. The M1891 was also a sniper. -
A gun with no scope but with the stats of the AWM = a snipers dream. Reason because you wouldn't have to zoom then, it would be like no scoping, all you have to do is jump behind cover with it and jump back out like all snipers do and it's very easy to land your first shot with any weapon. This would cause rage and so much QQing it wouldn't even be funny. It would be like the m12s of sniper rifles.
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Now I would suggest a more modern bolt action rifle, but I cant think of any.
Unless you can think of one for me?
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
BOTH IN SAME ZP CRATE. LIMITED TIME ONLY...? C:
**M1891 (Rifle)
NO SCOPE
Same damage as AWM.
Bolt action
5/30 clip (4.2 second reload)
Recoil equal to AWM
1.7 seconds between each shot
Weight slightly greater than PSG-1
Accuracy & Range equal to AK-47
We also need a popular gun to oppose the popular Tommy gun. Nuff' said.
I tried to look for more modern weapons to rival it, but the problem was:
1. I couldnt find any equal
2. The time range of the Thompson was next to the PPSH.
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
**PPSH-41 (Smg)
Accuracy equal to Tommy gun
Rate of fire slightly greater than Tommy gun
Power slightly weaker than Tommy gun
Weight slightly lighter than Tommy gun
71/142 box magazine (3.8 second reload)
The last thing we need is another DSR-1, leave the bolt action class to just one gun. Im open arms for DSR variants tho
Not bad, reloads kinda ugly and the magazine is weird looking but other than that its a good plan. -
A gun with no scope but with the stats of the AWM = a snipers dream. Reason because you wouldn't have to zoom then, it would be like no scoping, all you have to do is jump behind cover with it and jump back out like all snipers do and it's very easy to land your first shot with any weapon. This would cause rage and so much QQing it wouldn't even be funny. It would be like the m12s of sniper rifles.
If you use a DSR, none of this matters lol -
how about the tactical tompson
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/sons-of-guns/photos/images/weapons-tommy-gun-2.jpg
did anyone see the tompson they modified on that show sons of guns at that company called redjacket
that thing looks beefy as hell lol -
Now I would suggest a more modern bolt action rifle, but I cant think of any.
Unless you can think of one for me?
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
BOTH IN SAME ZP CRATE. LIMITED TIME ONLY...? C:
**M1891 (Rifle)
NO SCOPE
Same damage as AWM.
Bolt action
5/30 clip (4.2 second reload)
Recoil equal to AWM
1.7 seconds between each shot
Weight slightly greater than PSG-1
Accuracy & Range equal to AK-47
We also need a popular gun to oppose the popular Tommy gun. Nuff' said.
I tried to look for more modern weapons to rival it, but the problem was:
1. I couldnt find any equal
2. The time range of the Thompson was next to the PPSH.
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
**PPSH-41 (Smg)
Accuracy equal to Tommy gun
Rate of fire slightly greater than Tommy gun
Power slightly weaker than Tommy gun
Weight slightly lighter than Tommy gun
71/142 box magazine (3.8 second reload)
http://www.jaybe-militaria.co.uk/deactivated-mosin-nagant-m189130-rifle-with-bayonet-1943-dated-russian-infantry-rifle-212-p.asp
Now if you add the bayonet it'd be a winner, it would rival ak-knife and adds a longer life if you run out of ammo -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Well the ppsh is great...but this one just looks a beefed up version of the Tommy which annoys the crap out of me. But I would love to see more variety.
As for the rifle...maybe make it a 2 hit kill...1 hit seems too over powered.
i helped with the stats of ppsh its just like real life....slightly we actually made it weaker than it really is compared to the thompson we just did it to real life we got the stats out of a encyclopedia of guns -
A gun with no scope but with the stats of the AWM = a snipers dream. Reason because you wouldn't have to zoom then, it would be like no scoping, all you have to do is jump behind cover with it and jump back out like all snipers do and it's very easy to land your first shot with any weapon. This would cause rage and so much QQing it wouldn't even be funny. It would be like the m12s of sniper rifles.
It's not a damn sniper.
5 shots vs 30. Idk how to explain. It seemed so simple and obvious to me that it's balanced since it's a 5 bullets vs 30 bullets avrg. It's the same damn thing as a AWM vs M4. Only difference is it's a Winchester vs M4 with AWM Power. Can I get a MOD here? Or Saidin?! Someone who can try this in the Testing server and see how much it would 'over run' everyone?! Im literally confused at how this is so 'OP'. I understand how people are saying it's a snipers dream to 'no scope', BUT THATS THE POINT xD How else are you going to shoot with this gun?! It's not automatic! Although everyone is making it sound like it IS an automatic 1 hit kill... I know Im not missing anything because they've already explained wtf they're talking about. Not everyone has Perfect aim EVERYSHOT. Not everyone can get away EVERYTIME. Not everyone can clutch EVERYTIME. Not everyone is fuhking godlike. My brain is going to explode over this. -
Now I would suggest a more modern bolt action rifle, but I cant think of any.
Unless you can think of one for me?
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
BOTH IN SAME ZP CRATE. LIMITED TIME ONLY...? C:
**M1891 (Rifle)
NO SCOPE
Same damage as AWM.
Bolt action
5/30 clip (4.2 second reload)
Recoil equal to AWM
1.7 seconds between each shot
Weight slightly greater than PSG-1
Accuracy & Range equal to AK-47
We also need a popular gun to oppose the popular Tommy gun. Nuff' said.
I tried to look for more modern weapons to rival it, but the problem was:
1. I couldnt find any equal
2. The time range of the Thompson was next to the PPSH.
ALSO, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE STATS, MODIFY IT TO YOUR OPINION AND POST IT.
**PPSH-41 (Smg)
Accuracy equal to Tommy gun
Rate of fire slightly greater than Tommy gun
Power slightly weaker than Tommy gun
Weight slightly lighter than Tommy gun
71/142 box magazine (3.8 second reload)
This would be really fun! It could be called the "world war 2 crate" and you could get a ribbon.
there could also be a character named like US Ranger (Rangers were key in WW2) -
This would be really fun! It could be called the "world war 2 crate" and you could get a ribbon.
there could also be a character named like US Ranger (Rangers were key in WW2)
and the story line would be that something went wrong with the esc machine and it turned in to a time machine to world war 2 or some sheit -
It's not a damn sniper.
5 shots vs 30. Idk how to explain. It seemed so simple and obvious to me that it's balanced since it's a 5 bullets vs 30 bullets avrg. It's the same damn thing as a AWM vs M4. Only difference is it's a Winchester vs M4 with AWM Power. Can I get a MOD here? Or Saidin?! Someone who can try this in the Testing server and see how much it would 'over run' everyone?! Im literally confused at how this is so 'OP'. I understand how people are saying it's a snipers dream to 'no scope', BUT THATS THE POINT xD How else are you going to shoot with this gun?! It's not automatic! Although everyone is making it sound like it IS an automatic 1 hit kill... I know Im not missing anything because they've already explained wtf they're talking about. Not everyone has Perfect aim EVERYSHOT. Not everyone can get away EVERYTIME. Not everyone can clutch EVERYTIME. Not everyone is fuhking godlike. My brain is going to explode over this.
Sorry about this, I raged xD I was half asleepThis would be really fun! It could be called the "world war 2 crate" and you could get a ribbon.
there could also be a character named like US Ranger (Rangers were key in WW2)
Great Idea. I was actually thinking about suggesting some new characters, but I didnt even think about MWII characters. The russian soldiers would be pretty cool c:demonicfart wrote: »and the story line would be that something went wrong with the esc machine and it turned in to a time machine to world war 2 or some sheit
Or the new character is a MWII Veteran ?? xD -
wichesterKIN wrote: »i want a bolt sniper rifle and a winchester without sope in gp section(and it must hit at every range!)
That's this. But in zp crates. The one I hope that is like the M1891 that also goes in, is the Arisaka Type 99 for GP in Item Shop. Which is probably what you're looking for. So here is the link...
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=143680
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