Perm wide grenade for 30 ribbons, ribbon.

kawaiineko91 wrote: »

they should release it in some way but I dont see it being a good idea to be for #30.
Maybe releasing it for bp rent would be better.

Having it for BP is both a great idea and a bad idea.
Its great because it gives us something worth spending bp on.
Its bad because the grenade will be way too common.

Having 1 out of 40ish people have one is ok, but having 1 out 5 have it will out balance the game.

SourBoot4 wrote: »

when i get into a game and i play for like 4min it says hack tool detected, and i just downloaded the game and dont have any hacks. and it keep logging me out and its kind of annoying. does anybody know how to fix this?

this isn't the forum for this, anyways i'd suggest a complete uninstall and reinstall. if it still doesn't work use the support center and make a ticket about the problem

Link to support center.
http://support.z8games.com/webform_new.aspx

kawaiineko91 wrote: »

you kind of missed my point. In the very long run (6month - year) almost everyone would have it.

I didn't miss your point, just thought you over estimated the number of people with 20 ribbons right now. From what I've seen in game, I only see the M4A1 CC in other peoples hands every 4th or 5th game I play. So I'm estimating only about 1 out of 40 people even have it yet.

Z8s been releasing a ribbon every month or two and they've been 1 time event ribbons mostly. And since the average player doesn't follow most events, less then a third are going to ever even reach 30 ribbons. which will take about 2-4 years at Z8s current ribbon release rate. (even tho there's 29 ribbons right now, 11 are now impossible to get)

Over half the players in this game are south American children, with what I've seen, have short intention spans and lack of any knowledge about the game or forums. So they'll most likely quit the game before they ever reach 30 ribbons. (and the ones that don't will most likely resort to hacking and get there accounts banned and have to start over)

This games targeted audience is 16-24 year old males, most of this age group will move on to other things with in a few years (college, careers, ect...), and any of them that have it will playing less over time.

So in short, the amount who have 30 ribbons will stay regulated through outside forces, and most likely top out at 10%. So I don't see it becoming a problem unless Z8 releases ALOT of perm ribbons. (and they'll be hard pressed to think of new ones, that aren't harder versions of whats already here)

kawaiineko91 wrote: »

Seeing would be only those who actually use it. It's an alright gun but I'd prefer using normal or ak s.

How are you defining "average player"? Up until the m4 cc was release no one cared for the ribbons but since it's release, the "average player" would want to collect more ribbons.
Just take a look at the wanted poster event and the amount of people that rushed to the forum to claim it, some even in languages other than english.

Ribbons really have no set release. They do seem to be at least one a month but we're seen from other patches that it's not only limited to 1.

Over half , where are you getting this number? It may seem like it in game but there is not statistic from the admin to validate this.

Again about the target audience, where did you find this number? Other more popular shooting games have a vast age range and don't forget, unlike other online games like mmo rpg, for a fps there is not much commitment necessary game wise. One could easily play casually and collect most ribbons like me.

Well I know z8 will release some hard ones to get but they will also release some relatively easy ones to get such as the Thompson one. An example would be a future gold gun ribbon that will most possibility come out (it's already in the system).

Average player is determined by the ping and language they speak, and I see a lot more 150+ pings and spanish/portagues speaking players then english players on all the servers accept the uks.

There are 700,000 facebook accounts that favorite its page, and a hundred or so players posting on the poster thread doesn't mean everyone went for it.

true that ribbons don't have a set release date, and this can change like I stated before.

A first person shooters usual target audience is 16-24 year old males, it doesn't mean only those players play it, this is just who their expecting to use their product the most.

kawaiineko91 wrote: »

On another note, something happening twice it's enough for it to be considered a pattern.

That's also why I'm not expect them to give us something so great for the 30th ribbon, expecting it to be as good or better than the 20th m4cc (which was added on xmas).

Also its more likely to be a AK-47 of some type then grenade.

kawaiineko91 wrote: »

I'll elaborate on why I mentioned wide grenade as bp rent instead of 30th ribbon reward/gift.

There are several points to this . As you said before it was a "pattern". It really one yet but would be once, or if, a 30th prize is announced.

Short term bp wide nade would be available for most zp spenders - for everyone to enjoy, at least for a bit. Long-term less and less people would have bp saved up - so less wide grenades in game overall. The wide grenade is also so loved due to it's power that people would for the first time actually buy more zp just to get the bp to keep renting a nade.
(Money really comes into play here - giving them high incentive)

As for giving it as a gift, putting the long term wide nade storm that would occur, it would be permanent - at least what you suggested (A rent would plss people off anyway). I do recall hearing from a mod that GM would never release it permanent here (same was said for gat/nade launcher and look at us now) but anyway, thinks might change.

But the main reason I suggested it for bp was that it had already been available for bp in the past, only temporarily though for 7 days. Anyway we'll see, hopefully soon.

Wasn't awhere that it was a BP item in the past, makes it less likely to be the 30th then.
If it was removed once from BP then it was either because no one bought it or it caused to much trouble.