**Resale Banned Accounts**
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Snipperguy31 wrote: »If someone with a gatling gun kriss super V and some other cool guns ever got banned for trolling glitching or hack perma I bet some random dude would buy his account and dont tell me it wont happen cause some people spend hundreds of $ just to get 1 zp crate gun
So? That's hundreds of $ for g4 which is what is keeping this game up and FREE. -
So? That's hundreds of $ for g4 which is what is keeping this game up and FREE.
Yes, but your missing the whole point that HACKERS, at least the VIP ones, are willing to spend cash.
They will spend cash just to get their account back. And how are you going to effectivly "check somone's background"as ESLMasta suggested? It takes less time to hold an alibi, and spoof your Mac address, then to watch 10 youtube vids.
Seriosly this suggestion is a joke. -
@Miami
Okay, might be true. Im not sure with the date thingy.
Another problem. There are plenty of accounts that get banned per day. So there would be a huge offer of accounts. This would cause an imbalance of supply and demand. So that accounts with some nice weapons would become cheaper and cheaper. Z8games or G4box would sell some nice weapons extemely cheap this way. Not a good deal for them.
Selling the accounts for a fixed price would bypass this problem but this way only ~5% of all accounts would be sold. And it would not be fair at all. You had to check the database many times per day to get a good deal. This would cause an amount of traffic Z8games could not deal. They are overwhelmed by the current situation anyway. It is the slowest website I know yet. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Yes, but your missing the whole point that HACKERS, at least the VIP ones, are willing to spend cash.
They will spend cash just to get their account back. And how are you going to effectivly "check somone's background"as ESLMasta suggested? It takes less time to hold an alibi, and spoof your Mac address, then to watch 10 youtube vids.
Seriosly this suggestion is a joke.
Didn't I mention that the account will be monitored closely in one of my previous posts? They'll get caught and they have to buy the account again and again and again and again. Which means the cheaters who like spending money will spend more money to G4. Which means more money for X-Trap which means less cheaters. The cheaters would be fueling the very company that's patching their cheats. -
So? That's hundreds of $ for g4 which is what is keeping this game up and FREE.
Did I say it was a bad thing that people waste hundreds on this game? my meaning is if this system would happen z8 would get better profit and with the profit they can do much more, maybe better patches, good patches means +players and players means a more popular game that leads to more fundings get from where I am comming from? -
Didn't I mention that the account will be monitored closely in one of my previous posts? They'll get caught and they have to buy the account again and again and again and again. Which means the cheaters who like spending money will spend more money to G4. Which means more money for X-Trap which means less cheaters. The cheaters would be fueling the very company that's patching their cheats.
@Red: Thats fallacious and wrong. Who are you to say where the money is going or if Xtrap staff is motivated by money?
Dude, these guys spend cash monthly just to use Hacks. They even have a sophisticated system OF using and distributing these hacks. ITs pretty ridiculous.
That being said, They are willing, definily Willing, to buy their account and do it over and over. -
Okay, might be true. Im not sure with the date thingy.
Another problem. There are plenty of accounts that get banned per day. So there would be a huge offer of accounts. This would cause an imbalance of supply and demand. So that accounts with some nice weapons would become cheaper and cheaper. Z8games or G4box would sell some nice weapons extemely cheap this way. Not a good deal for them.
Selling the accounts for a fixed price would bypass this problem but this way only ~5% of all accounts would be sold. And it would not be fair at all. You had to check the database many times per day to get a good deal. This would cause an amount of traffic Z8games could not deal. They are overwhelmed by the current situation anyway. It is the slowest website I know yet.
Easy.. Take it small. If the account has a certain amount or items in it, then fix the price to near 40$. If the account is pretty much gp-based, price it at 10-20$. Either way it doesn't matter what the price is because its tons of accounts that the items in it are already paid for, they're just making more money off of it. Whatever they gain is a plus even if some accounts go for 5$ each.
About the website being slow, I agree they should find a way to speed it up or Rorzer might find a way to help and that's of course if Ror agrees with this idea... -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »@Red: Thats fallacious and wrong. Who are you to say where the money is going or if Xtrap staff is motivated by money?
Dude, these guys spend cash monthly just to use Hacks. They even have a sophisticated system OF using and distributing these hacks. ITs pretty ridiculous.
That being said, They are willing, definily Willing, to buy their account and do it over and over.
Well.... with the red.... who isn't motivated by money for 1..? and for 2. I think I remembered a MOD saying that they pay a bit for X-Trap.
What G4 does with the money is their issue I agree with that statement no doubt. However, you gotta think that cheating is 1 of their largest issues and that they're fed up with the replay system and so-on you would think that they would try to do their best to stop the cheaters via X-Trap. -
Hm well. You could resale the account but they CANNOT have the same credit card number in use maybe?
That would definetly work to stop cheaters from re-purchasing their own accounts. That is of course if they don't have another credit card but in any case, read my previous posts about cheaters re-purchasing their own accounts. -
Well.... with the red.... who isn't motivated by money for 1..? and for 2. I think I remembered a MOD saying that they pay a bit for X-Trap.
Bro, you have alot to learn. Believe me, in 2 years you will find that money wont motivate you if you havnt already figured out.What G4 does with the money is their issue I agree with that statement no doubt. However, you gotta think that cheating is 1 of their largest issues and that they're fed up with the replay system and so-on you would think that they would try to do their best to stop the cheaters via X-Trap.
Yeah try and do their best, but they rely on an outside force to do their work so they cant quote on quote harrass them to do their job. So they still have a delay and since Xtrap has many clients, they can always fall back on excuses. They probably do.
Dont quote me on that though. -
Reread the red part. What you said there is only true when the same player buys his account back. Imagine a GP player wants to have a Golden M4 or a AWM RD or whatever. He will think twice if he buys crates or if he buys a account with this weapons. This way the player will save money in most cases. Z8 wont.Easy.. Take it small. If the account has a certain amount or items in it, then fix the price to near 40$. If the account is pretty much gp-based, price it at 10-20$. Either way it doesn't matter what the price is because its tons of accounts that the items in it are already paid for, they're just making more money off of it. Whatever they gain is a plus even if some accounts go for 5$ each.
About the website being slow, I agree they should find a way to speed it up or Rorzer might find a way to help and that's of course if Ror agrees with this idea... -
Well I won't quote you and I agree that they can't really harass them to do what they're supposed to be doing. The thing is still that the money is going to G4 and only good things can happen when G4 has more cash. Wether it's something critical like better anti-cheat coverage, new maps, modes or something more miniscule and maitenance like faster web-sites or more features.
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Reread the red part. What you said there is only true when the same player buys his account back. Imagine a GP player wants to have a Golden M4 or a AWM RD or whatever. He will think twice if he buys crates or if he buys a account with this weapons. This way the player will save money in most cases. Z8 wont.
What if they made the crate weapons hidden and show mainly the GP weapons that are in it? That ways its 50/50 on wether the person even has a crate weapon and which one it is. The only thing that will give it away is the price like 50-100$ which I think would be ridiculous for 1 account but there are people out there willing to spend that much for a weapon.
Worst case scenario, just not sell the accounts with crate weapons or remove the crate weapons from the accounts. -
With what? Getting money from cheaters who thought they could get away with an immature program?
A lot of the zp regulars are most likely going to jump on this because they'll have more zp stuff as they always love having. Those that disagree and hate it are those who are GP-only or 90% GP only players who are playing this game because it's free and for pretty much no other reason and as long as it's free, they're going to play it.
Besides, what is the disadvantage of someone buying another account? It doesn't add skill, it doesn't add popularity, it doesn't add anything other than a different account that the person can use and screw around with and if he/she gets lucky there'd be pleanty of reserved gp and zp from the account to buy more things with it. Anyone who doesn't mind paying for this game would jump on this quickly. If the accounts are at a low price, everyone's gonna jump on it and z8/g4 whatever will have more pocket money to use to update the game and make it even better.
Even if a hacker did for some stupid reason buy his account back, he can be banned again from the same account and guess what? That account goes back to the market just to be sold again.
So now that wall of shame that z8 does have in secret somewhere, is more of a wall of cash.
The people that would leave would be those who actually care about ranks, guns, and status, including how these are obtained. Personally, I am one of them, because if you are a high rank I assume that you worked hard to get those guns, rank and status. I do not want to see a high rank in which a new comer just bought the account to show off how little work he's done to get it. And to be honest, neither you nor I know how many of those kinds of people are in Cross Fire, but in my opinion there are enough to offset any earnings they would make. Keep in mind that there would also be an increase in hacking since it would be very easy to get the account back if it were to be banned. (People buy VIP hacks so they should have no problem in buying their account back) With the increase in hacking, more and more people will start to get fed up and move on. -
It's not the most ridiculous suggestion. So I don't know what the whole fuss is about.
Everyone has their opinions and are entitled to it.
Saying that...I'm sitting on the fence here.
Is't one of z8 's rules not to sell your account, as you do not own it. Then if z8games uses this system is't that going to encourage ''account selling''.
That's the only negative I see to this suggestion. If this system was properly, carefully and well thought of. Then I guess it could work.
Accounts however won't sell for $20. I would imagine accounts with at least 2 ZP guns will be well over the $50 mark.
Just something else to add. This will add even more work to z8's work load, I mean take a look at z8games support. So I really don't see this happening. -
It's not the most ridiculous suggestion. So I don't know what the whole fuss is about.
Everyone has their opinions and are entitled to it.
Saying that...I'm sitting on the fence here.
Is't one of z8 's rules not to sell your account, as you do not own it. Then if z8games uses this system is't that going to encourage ''account selling''.
That's the only negative I see to this suggestion. If this system was properly, carefully and well thought of. Then I guess it could work.
Accounts however won't sell for $20. I would imagine accounts with at least 2 ZP guns will be well over the $50 mark.
Just something else to add. This will add even more work to z8's work load, I mean take a look at z8games support. So I really don't see this happening.
Yeah that's really the only downfall... I mean, selling accounts is always going to happen but the staff would be more overworked than they are now and this kind of thing would have to be ran by a select group. -
So one could hack until they are perma banned then just buy the account back and get it back to good standing?^
This
I vote for complete deletion of an account when a permanent ban has been made final.
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So people think that cheaters care about some online game accounts THAT much so they would spend play money too get some low rank account back (USUALLY cheaters are low ranks).
People are banned for other reasons. Not only cheating. Harrassment,chargebacks are only 2 reasons.
So I +1 the idea.
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