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His point was to ban or infract the OP for posting the same old. The forums are generally moderated loosely so I wouldn't expect such measures to be taken without other prominent issues being taken care of beforehand.
people are bored of all those hackers
people waste a lot of time with report
let em the freedom to not use the search button.
more and more threads about hackers maybe will open z8 eyes.
the give us 100000000 ways with a smile to spend money..... let us create everyday new threads ^^ -
[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »...Z8 itself isn't responsible for the protection in the game... Z8 purchase protection from companies like X-Trap ... situation isn't quite as bad as one thinks, those who were around the 2009 .. hackers seem pretty bad at the moment but they can't hold a candle to back then.
Despite the increased player base the percentage of problems has decreased notable.
X-Trap and Z8 continue to work on stopping the hacking measures as best as they can, they don't want to have worse reputation nor do they want to lose valuable customers. However, they are still a company and people have their own lives as we do. Just gotta be patient and look forward to what they bring.
Oh boy,
So your saying that z8 doesn't feel responsible for the sort of protection
from hackers that they are paying for?
Is that just your opinion or the general feeling of the company's attitude
after they sub that out?
In my experience in the construction industry if a general contractor subs
out work to another contractor then the general contractor is still held
responsible for any work done by the sub and has the quality and inspection
measures in place to make sure the work by the sub is up to par.
This is June 2011 now, and since 2010 when i started playing I've noticed the
waves of hackers come and go, but since the start of this year, I've noticed
the problem steadily increase, not decrease. That is my opinion and the opinion
of many of my friends and the people I play with on a regular basis.
Some have simply quit out of frustration because even with the attempts that z8
is implementing it seems that there is not enough being done to curb this hacking situation.
I read GM Saidin's post about the hacking situation here The Game - May 2011
last month and I was expecting some noticeable improvement to be coming
in the near future to decrease these hackers. We haven't noticed it yet
as per to my question of frustration. -
HyperDaVinci wrote: »I shall say that no code is perfect.
So this means that no code is unhackable.
Keep that in mind.
There is no game without hacks.
COD BO costs 70 euros here and there are a lot of cheaters.
What do you expect from a free to play game?
I will answer your question.
To make the first point this game is free because of paying members like me.
One of the first things I expect is that they use my money to make the game
a fair playing field for all players. Another thing is I expect them to add new
content to the game to keep the interest of the players involved that are
willing to spend their money on it to keep it free.
If those 2 things are implemented fairly then it is a win win situation for all
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I will answer your question.
To make the first point this game is free because of paying members like me.
One of the first things I expect is that they use my money to make the game
a fair playing field for all players. Another thing is I expect them to add new
content to the game to keep the interest of the players involved that are
willing to spend their money on it to keep it free.
If those 2 things are implemented fairly then it is a win win situation for all
involved.
And I shall answer again.
The product you buy is ZP.
Not the game itself.
So you have absolutely no right to say that because you buy ZP everything you guys want can come.
Face it, ZP isn't their only source of income.
And I shall say.
The biggest amount of G4Box's income goes to SG and NeoWiz.
Then they pay a lot for the server costs.
Then taxes and everything else comes in.
So it basically means that G4Box has no big budget even if they kept all these money.
So few money goes to X-Trap to prevent cheaters from getting in.
And at last they keep a small amount of their income for salaries.
It's not a big budget game. -
You asked me what I expected of the game that I support with my money
which makes it free.
I answered your question.
What z8 does with the money is their own business.
Whether that money is appropriated correctly is an entirely different issue
that boils down to them being a good business or a bad business ... -
You asked me what I expected of the game that I support with my money
which makes it free.
I answered your question.
What z8 does with the money is their own business.
Whether that money is appropriated correctly is an entirely different issue
that boils down to them being a good business or a bad business ...
As I said your money doesn't go to G4Box actually.
And you do not have the right to demand things.
The product you buy is ZP not CF.
You have the right to complain about those ZP though.
NO CODE IS UNHACKABLE.
SO NO GAME HAS NO CHEATS.
GET OVER IT.
/rage
gawd when will people actually understand. -
When will you get it through your head that the money that people spend
on this game goes to the company that is running it firstly...
You asked me what I expected. I told you. If we are supporting this game
with hard earned cash and the proprietors keep taking it then we have a
reasonable expectation of what we should be receiving...
When that money starts drying up, which it may already have then I would
expect the business model to either start going down hill, close, or do
something drastic to correct it and make people want to be interested
with it to keep spending money.
Well, after I've sifted through your response I can clearly see that you didn't
like the answer that you received.
Just face it because that is the cold hard truth.
It's very simple. -
When will you get it through your head that the money that people spend
on this game goes to the company that is running it firstly...
You asked me what I expected. I told you. If we are supporting this game
with hard earned cash and the proprietors keep taking it then we have a
reasonable expectation of what we should be receiving...
When that money starts drying up, which it may already have then I would
expect the business model to either start going down hill, close, or do
something drastic to correct it and make people want to be interested
with it to keep spending money.
It's very simple.
but the money isnt drying up genius. you know the game would have cheats when you joined it. nobody made you spend money on it. just stop complaining, im sure the companies are doing the best they can to ensure our continued support. the point is like 8 of these 'THERE ARE SO MANY HCKS WHY Z8!!!! WHEN WILL THE HCKS BE SOLVED ' -
I can say this much...if Z8 was NOT making a vast (or even good) profit, we would NOT be seeing them keep the game up...
So it's profitable. End of story.
They somehow think it's out of their hands with the game security...
That's like saying a bank cant do something about your money getting stolen because they didn't want to install bulletproof glass around the teller desk and they got robbed...
It's cutting into their profits (not much, but it still is...) and them seemingly ignoring it and having saidin go lie to our faces on xfire isn't going to remedy the problem...DO SOMETHING. Fire xtrap and find another solution, for instance...because they ain't doing their jobs, apparently...tracking a hack that may get patched only ONCE per xtrap patch is NOT that difficult, and if xtrap are some baller ass anti-hack programmers then finding what the hacks are latching on to shouldn't even be a problem!
Now to the people who think people should just shut up about it can shut up...it's what they do best...take it up the rear. They don't care. Hell, I bet at least 8/10 of them hack in the game or don't even play this game PRIMARILY...hopping from game to game as they well please because they don't have anything else to do and can't find a game that they can become to attached to. Maybe they should go play farmville...and let the people who play games to have FUN do so and complain when they CAN'T... -
I can say this much...if Z8 was NOT making a vast (or even good) profit, we would NOT be seeing them keep the game up...
So it's profitable. End of story.
They somehow think it's out of their hands with the game security...
That's like saying a bank cant do something about your money getting stolen because they didn't want to install bulletproof glass around the teller desk and they got robbed...
It's cutting into their profits (not much, but it still is...) and them seemingly ignoring it and having saidin go lie to our faces on xfire isn't going to remedy the problem...DO SOMETHING. Fire xtrap and find another solution, for instance...because they ain't doing their jobs, apparently...tracking a hack that may get patched only ONCE per xtrap patch is NOT that difficult, and if xtrap are some baller ass anti-hack programmers then finding what the hacks are latching on to shouldn't even be a problem!
Now to the people who think people should just shut up about it can shut up...it's what they do best...take it up the rear. They don't care. Hell, I bet at least 8/10 of them hack in the game or don't even play this game PRIMARILY...hopping from game to game as they well please because they don't have anything else to do and can't find a game that they can become to attached to. Maybe they should go play farmville...and let the people who play games to have FUN do so and complain when they CAN'T...
Very nicely summed up. Thanks for that. I know a sheep when I see one
also. LOL. There are many here. -
HyperDaVinci wrote: »NO CODE IS UNHACKABLE.
SO NO GAME HAS NO CHEATS.
GET OVER IT.
/rage
gawd when will people actually understand.
1) Yeah, no code is unhackable...but no human is as lazy as xtraps team to LET IT CONTINUE FOR 2 MONTHS STRAIGHT....I mean, hell! You don't let your broken toilet that's back-flushing shizzy all over your floor CONTINUE, do you?! NO. YOU FIX THE DAMN THING and make sure if it HAPPENS AGAIN you have the tools ready to REPEAT.
2) No, you don't get over some jack-off being as such and the company basically INDULGING them by telling people to F-off by removing threads and straight ignoring tickets...and then there is the backlog of reports that either shows that they don't have enough GMs watching them or they aren't watching them at all...
*SIDE NOTE* I wonder if they even watch NEW replays until all the old ones are done being reviewed...if they do, that's HELLA backwards.
3) You sure as hell can complain about the game when what you buy is what the game is based around........................................EVERYTHING in the game is going to be based around ZP and people who buy it you DRUP. Wait until the C-Mode (*cough*) gets here and ZP buyers have some weird ability to buy R-S-Tokens (*COUGH*) while GP free players die the X amount of times and then have to sit out. And of course the AI (*cough*) is going to be slightly rigged to totally kick your ass with ZP being your guardian...
So no, I don't think your coming in here and trying to belittle people who show some sense or concern and displeasure at the current game situation is going to stop people from making posts. It's partially what the forum was designed for, it's NOT against the damn rules (and they only get closed because of the heated flamers like yourself who can't properly interject you're argument without straight out sounding like an underage kid), and if Z8 starts closing threads that highlight the problems people keep seeing then sooner or later new or potential players are going to NOT want to join...then what would happen? Oh, Z8 knows... -
Very nicely summed up. Thanks for that. I know a sheep when I see one
also. LOL. There are many here.
Sheep = A blind person whom within a mindset of ignorance defies the facts laid in front of him in exchange for the lies that are easier to chew on...
Here's the facts.
1) This game is run on ZP.
2) People who buy ZP get some level of an advantage, from extended clips to weapons with better dmg and/or accuracy. And later they, they'll be getting more options.
3) Z8 shuns GP players...whom oddly enough constantly see numbers of ZP-BP using players aim-botting and speed hacking in game (as well as legit ZP buyers seeing the same thing)
4) And your going to LOVE this one...
A sheep needs a shepard....who's leading me? I've been playing this game for 2 years straight and FROM DAY ONE (no lie) I've seen a REDUNDANTLY high amount of ignorance about hackers in game...
And if your going to try to point someone as a "sheep", you better look in the mirror. The person talking about Z8/Xtrap doing their job when THEY CLEARLY AREN'T SHOWING IT and taking every news post from said groups as canon is a "Sheep". YOU. -
Sheep = A blind person whom within a mindset of ignorance defies the facts laid in front of him in exchange for the lies that are easier to chew on...
Here's the facts.
1) This game is run on ZP.
2) People who buy ZP get some level of an advantage, from extended clips to weapons with better dmg and/or accuracy. And later they, they'll be getting more options.
3) Z8 shuns GP players...whom oddly enough constantly see numbers of ZP-BP using players aim-botting and speed hacking in game (as well as legit ZP buyers seeing the same thing)
4) And your going to LOVE this one...
A sheep needs a shepard....who's leading me? I've been playing this game for 2 years straight and FROM DAY ONE (no lie) I've seen a REDUNDANTLY high amount of ignorance about hackers in game...
And if your going to try to point someone as a "sheep", you better look in the mirror. The person talking about Z8/Xtrap doing their job when THEY CLEARLY AREN'T SHOWING IT and taking every news post from said groups as canon is a "Sheep". YOU.
I am no sheep sir. I asked a question of z8 when we will see the much talked
about and anticipated reduction to the hacking situation HERE.Those points you
are bringing up that you are trying to reference to me was brought up by
someone other.
The post that I did reference my question from was made by a GM of the game.
If it's not something that should be taken for fact and questioned of when
it's not appearing to materialize then it means to me something is drastically
wrong with the state of the game. And more questions will need to be asked.
If you misunderstood and think that I was name calling you than I'm sorry.
But if not than you need to think twice and re-read before you flame me.
I was not saying you are a sheep.
I sometimes wonder if reading comprehension is a gift and not a skill. lol
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I think the situation is very simple: Z8 wants money (of course, no judging)
The only question they have to ask is:
How much money do we loose by hackers and how much would it cost to solve hacking?
It seems it´s cheaper to let hacking go on. As much as i hate that economical view that´s the truth. What the player can do is make Z8 loose more money and let them know that it´s because of the unsolved hacking problem.
When their calculation shows a profit for stopping hacking they will do it, there are ways. You dont seriously think that hacking is unfixable, do you? -
Making G4Box lose money is a bad solution.I think the situation is very simple: Z8 wants money (of course, no judging)
The only question they have to ask is:
How much money do we loose by hackers and how much would it cost to solve hacking?
It seems it´s cheaper to let hacking go on. As much as i hate that economical view that´s the truth. What the player can do is make Z8 loose more money and let them know that it´s because of the unsolved hacking problem.
When their calculation shows a profit for stopping hacking they will do it, there are ways. You dont seriously think that hacking is unfixable, do you?
The will not have money to hire X-Trap,no new content.
NT though. -
i'm not complaining you dumbass. maybe you should learn to read.Only noob hacke.rs complain about these type of threads, are you a noob?and ? u talking like all foreigners are using hacks, i feel so sorry 4 u.
the most coders are us/can/british!
use your brain dude......
when did i say all foreigners use hacks. geez people are stupid these days. -
I think I'm going to be playing another game for a while that's paid with my tax
dollars and crossfire a little less until things are sorted out.
I won the FR-F2 French sniper rifle when the latest patch went live. It's not
even fun to pull it out because of all the beggars bothering me and the
blockers rushing up to me while I need to move trying to get me killed, and
not to mention the teammates that throw nades on you...
Here's to hoping that I see some improvements.
I'm going dancing now and have a few drinks with my real life friends.
Hope y'all have fun without me
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What'd you except? Community is immature.I think I'm going to be playing another game for a while that's paid with my tax
dollars and crossfire a little less until things are sorted out.
I won the FR-F2 French sniper rifle when the latest patch went live. It's not
even fun to pull it out because of all the beggars bothering me and the
blockers rushing up to me while I need to move trying to get me killed, and
not to mention the teammates that throw nades on you...
Here's to hoping that I see some improvements.
I'm going dancing now and have a few drinks with my real life friends.
Hope y'all have fun without me
Ontopic: Considering that CF International hasn't closed down or there has been no drastic changes, then the game is sending in enough income and enough people are either tolerating hackers (meaning this group spamming about hackers is a small minority) or you people are just unlucky enough to always get into games that have hackers (or you cannot legitimately tell a pro from a hack).
Whatever the case, CF is doing well enough (meaning enough income is being generated) that the devs have decided that no further anti-hack measures are needed. As a game that is infused and infested with hacks (as some of you believe) very quickly loses customers (because it gets a bad reputation all across the Internet).
So in perspective, CF is doing really quite well.
Sincerely,
aimoperative -
i awalys love how Z8 & the people who run this game constantly talk about "working to solve the hacking problem" when there are so many other free to play mmo games out there that run NO ANTIHACK SOFTWARE AT ALL for years, and have never had a single hacking problem.
..and they MAKE LESS MONEY THEN Z8.
its quite cute. -
Really? which ones? (i'm not being sarcastic, i really want to know)i awalys love how Z8 & the people who run this game constantly talk about "working to solve the hacking problem" when there are so many other free to play mmo games out there that run NO ANTIHACK SOFTWARE AT ALL for years, and have never had a single hacking problem.
..and they MAKE LESS MONEY THEN Z8.
its quite cute.
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