13 things that have to change

I just wanted to list up some issues that should be addressed. Because this thread contains suggestions and technical issues I decided to post it in barracks. That does not make sense? Yeah maybe :D
  1. The worst issue is hacking
    There is no comment needed for that but the anti hack software seems to have many with the current public hacks.
  2. Kick vote, vote kick, whatever must be improved.
    It is too hard to kick hackers but it is too easy to kick legit players. Most of the hackers got low ranks and good legit players got high ranks. So just make it easier to kick low ranks and make it harder to kick high ranks. The final development of this idea is your job. The worst thing you could say as someone who represents the company is that you don't know how. Well you did...
    Farming could be a problem here but it is a minor issue since it is very time consuming and not rewarding for most hackers. Additionally you would reward high ranks this way or in other words faithful customers would be pleased.
    What about votekick in FFA, MM & HM? I do not play these modes myself but I hear a lot of complaints. I guess I stopped playing it because of hackers...
  3. Glitching
    I know that you are working on it and that you made progress in the last patches. I even know that it takes a lot of effort to fix this. Nevertheless it is your job. If you need help to find glitches ask the users in a public thread to send them to you.
  4. Chatfilter
    There have to be an option to turn it off. And there is no need for it in the clan chat. Furthermore nicknames must not be filtered.
  5. Z8 points in clans
    Currently there is no way to use ZP when you have reached the maximum amount of members and lieutenants. Why did you remove the clan items?
  6. Homepage/forum
    You should improve your forum because it is the slowest and worst to handle website I have seen yet. It is much too slow. Me and many other users do not want to wait half a minute to load a page. I also do not know why I have to upload masses of data to visit a certain page. I have noticed that my upload speed (50KB/s) is fully used while visiting a page here. What do you need these data for?
  7. Support
    One of the most important things in an online game. Do not understand me wrong. Your hack report system is working very well. But when you have some technical issues or questions that cannot be answered in the forums then you have to be lucky to meet someone who understands what you are saying. It cannot be the rule that you get rid of your support tickets by making users rage at the support system. Take you time while reading them. When you do not have the time to answer properly you can totally remove the feature or you are kind enough to employ some more guys. Sending support tickets never helped me so far although it was the right place for my issues.
  8. Lag
    It is impossible to play with guys who got pings beyond 1000ms. It can give you the same advantages as a hack when used the right way. Many users claim it and it would improve the game play - ping caps. I won't tell you concrete numbers because that is something that have to be tested ingame. Just implement it for really high pings in the beginning. Then adjust it. All users will like this attempt.
  9. Hacktool detected
    When CF crashes and you restart it it will crash again due to a "hacktool detected" error although no software is influencing the crossfire client. It is really annoying when you have to wait several minutes to start Crossfire again. I am not the only one who experiences this issue.
  10. Multi thread support
    A few users are aware of it. Crossfire just uses a single thread. That makes it useless to play CF with a quad core. Supporting multi thread is a must for good games. I know that it is hard to implement but it would also fix some of the lag issues too.
  11. Return to host error
    Is there anyone who does not regularly get this error?
  12. Kicking in clan match hosts
    I miss the pregame kicking function in the hosts on the clanservers. You always chose your own opponents no matter what. So I would like to see it because I want to kick well known hackers from my room. I do not want to leave it because of someone like that.
  13. Fast forward in replays
    One of the minor issues but it is still annoying. This function just does not work.
  14. Clan invitation
    Actually it is a good idea to implement this feature but it is not useful right now since the screen vanishes as soon as someone joins the room.
When most of the points change, me and some other guys are willing to pay for this game. There always has to be good service before charging money. Do not say that users have to pay first to allow these changes. There are enough who do right now. I think my own clan paid about 5.000€ (7.000$) yet. Most of the clans did as well. But there could be more users who do so. I think you also earned like 50.000$ with Japan (server and wage costs not included). So one can imagine what you earn in a typical month.

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  • X-Trap needs to be fixed! I can't even record with PlayClaw! D: When I open it up, it opens up X-Trap and closes CF!
  • Jop I agree with the most points like the error stuff etc.
  • It is nice to get a positive response. I even added one point concerning the replay function. But I cannot edit the title :S
  • i agree with every thing except the vote kick for HM/MM maybe there are some more hackers than other modes but i can't play with a vote kick ! coz my kill/death in HM/MM (especially HM) is always better than 10 some times i finich a game with 75/2 100/3 ... we have too many noobs in HM/MM, they will think that i hack even if they don't they will just kick kick and kick.
  • i agree with every thing except the vote kick for HM/MM maybe there are some more hackers than other modes but i can't play with a vote kick ! coz my kill/death in HM/MM (especially HM) is always better than 10 some times i finich a game with 75/2 100/3 ... we have too many noobs in HM/MM, they will think that i hack even if they don't they will just kick kick and kick.
    Yeah, I really know what you mean. But I even said that it should be more difficult to kick high ranks. So you would not be negatively affected :)
    13 is coming soon.
    Good news in my ears. Where did you hear that?
  • I agree with most the items, except I see zero value of Chat in pub rooms. My vote is to eliminate it completely...but maybe except for on the Clan servers and private locked pub rooms.
  • Smagjus wrote: »

    Good news in my ears. Where did you hear that?

    Replay? Simrocks video ;D

    After 2-3 years...dam.

    I'm surprised you didn't say anything about this community.
  • Dextreme wrote: »
    I agree with most the items, except I see zero value of Chat in pub rooms. My vote is to eliminate it completely...but maybe except for on the Clan servers and private locked pub rooms.
    The chat is often used for hackusations or harassment. That may be your point.

    But I also got to know some nice players who got the same interests as me. Someone also gifted me 10.000 ZP although I did not ask for it :)

    You also can tell your mates that they are followed by an enemy for example. That's why I bound the message "Behind YOU" to the F7 key. Telling bomb spots using the chat is also a very important thing. So in my opinion we should keep this chat.
  • Smagjus wrote: »
    I just wanted to list up some issues that should be addressed. Because this thread contains suggestions and technical issues I decided to post it in barracks. That does not make sense? Yeah maybe :D
    1. The worst issue is hacking
      There is no comment needed for that but the anti hack software seems to have many with the current public hacks.
    2. Kick vote, vote kick, whatever must be improved.
      It is too hard to kick hackers but it is too easy to kick legit players. Most of the hackers got low ranks and good legit players got high ranks. So just make it easier to kick low ranks and make it harder to kick high ranks. The final development of this idea is your job. The worst thing you could say as someone who represents the company is that you don't know how. Well you did...
      Farming could be a problem here but it is a minor issue since it is very time consuming and not rewarding for most hackers. Additionally you would reward high ranks this way or in other words faithful customers would be pleased.
      What about votekick in FFA, MM & HM? I do not play these modes myself but I hear a lot of complaints. I guess I stopped playing it because of hackers...
    3. Glitching
      I know that you are working on it and that you made progress in the last patches. I even know that it takes a lot of effort to fix this. Nevertheless it is your job. If you need help to find glitches ask the users in a public thread to send them to you.
    4. Chatfilter
      There have to be an option to turn it off. And there is no need for it in the clan chat. Furthermore nicknames must not be filtered.
    5. Z8 points in clans
      Currently there is no way to use ZP when you have reached the maximum amount of members and lieutenants. Why did you remove the clan items?
    6. Homepage/forum
      You should improve your forum because it is the slowest and worst to handle website I have seen yet. It is much too slow. Me and many other users do not want to wait half a minute to load a page. I also do not know why I have to upload masses of data to visit a certain page. I have noticed that my upload speed (50KB/s) is fully used while visiting a page here. What do you need these data for?
    7. Support
      One of the most important things in an online game. Do not understand me wrong. Your hack report system is working very well. But when you have some technical issues or questions that cannot be answered in the forums then you have to be lucky to meet someone who understands what you are saying. It cannot be the rule that you get rid of your support tickets by making users rage at the support system. Take you time while reading them. When you do not have the time to answer properly you can totally remove the feature or you are kind enough to employ some more guys. Sending support tickets never helped me so far although it was the right place for my issues.
    8. Lag
      It is impossible to play with guys who got pings beyond 1000ms. It can give you the same advantages as a hack when used the right way. Many users claim it and it would improve the game play - ping caps. I won't tell you concrete numbers because that is something that have to be tested ingame. Just implement it for really high pings in the beginning. Then adjust it. All users will like this attempt.
    9. Hacktool detected
      When CF crashes and you restart it it will crash again due to a "hacktool detected" error although no software is influencing the crossfire client. It is really annoying when you have to wait several minutes to start Crossfire again. I am not the only one who experiences this issue.
    10. Multi thread support
      A few users are aware of it. Crossfire just uses a single thread. That makes it useless to play CF with a quad core. Supporting multi thread is a must for good games. I know that it is hard to implement but it would also fix some of the lag issues too.
    11. Return to host error
      Is there anyone who does not regularly get this error?
    12. Kicking in clan match hosts
      I miss the pregame kicking function in the hosts on the clanservers. You always chose your own opponents no matter what. So I would like to see it because I want to kick well known hackers from my room. I do not want to leave it because of someone like that.
    13. Fast forward in replays
      One of the minor issues but it is still annoying. This function just does not work.
    14. Clan invitation
      Actually it is a good idea to implement this feature but it is not useful right now since the screen vanishes as soon as someone joins the room.
    When most of the points change, me and some other guys are willing to pay for this game. There always has to be good service before charging money. Do not say that users have to pay first to allow these changes. There are enough who do right now. I think my own clan paid about 5.000€ (7.000$) yet. Most of the clans did as well. But there could be more users who do so. I think you also earned like 50.000$ with Japan (server and wage costs not included). So one can imagine what you earn in a typical month.

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    That was so extremely long...

    I didn't even read it because it just attack my eyes and my face. :(
    Can you make an abridged version?
  • Replay? Simrocks video ;D

    After 2-3 years...dam.

    I'm surprised you didn't say anything about this community.

    heehee, he fail quoted. :D
  • I agree to every point and Idea ^_^ .. especially no.s 1 - 8 - 11 - 13 ..
  • AznInvzn wrote: »
    heehee, he fail quoted. :D

    Yeah I deleted a ] :3

    FIXED?
  • I'm surprised you didn't say anything about this community.
    I see that many players complain about this community. But I do not really see a problem there because you are able to lead some useful discussions like in this thread. I guess the contact in this forum would improve when most of the points were addressed. There is no need to pay any attention to trolls or other users who behave bad. Most of them are quite entertaining though ;)

    Edit:
    @AznInvzn Your font colour attacks my eyes too since I use the blue style for this forum :P
  • Smagjus wrote: »

    1. Glitching
      I know that you are working on it and that you made progress in the last patches. I even know that it takes a lot of effort to fix this. Nevertheless it is your job. If you need help to find glitches ask the users in a public thread to send them to you.
    1. Lag
      It is impossible to play with guys who got pings beyond 1000ms. It can give you the same advantages as a hack when used the right way. Many users claim it and it would improve the game play - ping caps. I won't tell you concrete numbers because that is something that have to be tested ingame. Just implement it for really high pings in the beginning. Then adjust it. All users will like this attempt.
    2. Hacktool detected
      When CF crashes and you restart it it will crash again due to a "hacktool detected" error although no software is influencing the crossfire client. It is really annoying when you have to wait several minutes to start Crossfire again. I am not the only one who experiences this issue.
    3. Return to host error
      Is there anyone who does not regularly get this error?
    These are pretty much based on where you live/your computer. This game is dieing with the new evolutions of gaming. If they don't do a major make over they will stop updating it and this game will die. I will give it about 2 years before only Brazilians play on it. And glitching rarley ever happens and when it does it's usually some shitty mode like MM or HM.
  • Smagjus wrote: »

    Edit:
    @AznInvzn Your font colour attacks my eyes too since I use the blue style for this forum :P

    Ha lol. :D

    Yewwow is my favowite cowour. :3
  • Sorry to have to disappoint you..but the majority of Z8's income is not from the people who use forums; it's the people who actually don't give a ______ about forums, its the kids who beg their mom to buy ZP. So making this thread did not have one affect on Z8.
  • Am I right when I say that the patch did not change anything? Or did I miss something?

    Some other games change 250 things per month...I should play more of these other games...
  • Smagjus wrote: »
    I just wanted to list up some issues that should be addressed. Because this thread contains suggestions and technical issues I decided to post it in barracks. That does not make sense? Yeah maybe :D
    1. The worst issue is hacking
      There is no comment needed for that but the anti hack software seems to have many with the current public hacks.
    2. Kick vote, vote kick, whatever must be improved.
      It is too hard to kick hackers but it is too easy to kick legit players. Most of the hackers got low ranks and good legit players got high ranks. So just make it easier to kick low ranks and make it harder to kick high ranks. The final development of this idea is your job. The worst thing you could say as someone who represents the company is that you don't know how. Well you did...
      Farming could be a problem here but it is a minor issue since it is very time consuming and not rewarding for most hackers. Additionally you would reward high ranks this way or in other words faithful customers would be pleased.
      What about votekick in FFA, MM & HM? I do not play these modes myself but I hear a lot of complaints. I guess I stopped playing it because of hackers...
    3. Glitching
      I know that you are working on it and that you made progress in the last patches. I even know that it takes a lot of effort to fix this. Nevertheless it is your job. If you need help to find glitches ask the users in a public thread to send them to you.
    4. Chatfilter
      There have to be an option to turn it off. And there is no need for it in the clan chat. Furthermore nicknames must not be filtered.
    5. Z8 points in clans
      Currently there is no way to use ZP when you have reached the maximum amount of members and lieutenants. Why did you remove the clan items?
    6. Homepage/forum
      You should improve your forum because it is the slowest and worst to handle website I have seen yet. It is much too slow. Me and many other users do not want to wait half a minute to load a page. I also do not know why I have to upload masses of data to visit a certain page. I have noticed that my upload speed (50KB/s) is fully used while visiting a page here. What do you need these data for?
    7. Support
      One of the most important things in an online game. Do not understand me wrong. Your hack report system is working very well. But when you have some technical issues or questions that cannot be answered in the forums then you have to be lucky to meet someone who understands what you are saying. It cannot be the rule that you get rid of your support tickets by making users rage at the support system. Take you time while reading them. When you do not have the time to answer properly you can totally remove the feature or you are kind enough to employ some more guys. Sending support tickets never helped me so far although it was the right place for my issues.
    8. Lag
      It is impossible to play with guys who got pings beyond 1000ms. It can give you the same advantages as a hack when used the right way. Many users claim it and it would improve the game play - ping caps. I won't tell you concrete numbers because that is something that have to be tested ingame. Just implement it for really high pings in the beginning. Then adjust it. All users will like this attempt.
    9. Hacktool detected
      When CF crashes and you restart it it will crash again due to a "hacktool detected" error although no software is influencing the crossfire client. It is really annoying when you have to wait several minutes to start Crossfire again. I am not the only one who experiences this issue.
    10. Multi thread support
      A few users are aware of it. Crossfire just uses a single thread. That makes it useless to play CF with a quad core. Supporting multi thread is a must for good games. I know that it is hard to implement but it would also fix some of the lag issues too.
    11. Return to host error
      Is there anyone who does not regularly get this error?
    12. Kicking in clan match hosts
      I miss the pregame kicking function in the hosts on the clanservers. You always chose your own opponents no matter what. So I would like to see it because I want to kick well known hackers from my room. I do not want to leave it because of someone like that.
    13. Fast forward in replays
      One of the minor issues but it is still annoying. This function just does not work.
    14. Clan invitation
      Actually it is a good idea to implement this feature but it is not useful right now since the screen vanishes as soon as someone joins the room.
    When most of the points change, me and some other guys are willing to pay for this game. There always has to be good service before charging money. Do not say that users have to pay first to allow these changes. There are enough who do right now. I think my own clan paid about 5.000€ (7.000$) yet. Most of the clans did as well. But there could be more users who do so. I think you also earned like 50.000$ with Japan (server and wage costs not included). So one can imagine what you earn in a typical month.

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    The point is..... hes got 13 issues that must be fixed! :3 I agree with you dude. :D
  • -point 8 (lag) is hard to change coz no all ppl have nice conection or live near server, but is nice idea
    -i completly agree whit point 2 (kick vote) i got kiked to many times and haccks never -.-
    i have other idea (maybe) when room is full (16 players) whit 9 f11 player got kicked (againt 7)

    -and i think we need external player to see replay, i hate need enter CF to see my replays
  • most of the things here i agree with but the one they SHOULD change is the kick voting
    as u mentioned they should really give more respect to players who legitly spend their time and realize how to play properly.

    u should also add the fact that noobs who want u kicked would join, kick you, if failed, leave, join again and kick you again....

    they should ban these actions

    sure there might be a hacker in the game but doing this is only gonna **** pro players off more than the hackers
  • Yeah, z8games must get more serious if they want to keep there players.
  • 14. XD I agree to most of them but I doubt half of them will actually improve. T-T
  • It's great and all to state what's wrong with the game, but to show the underbelly of the city, the "perfect" city up top must be shown as well. If you know what I mean.
  • Yeah, I wished crossfire had another thread... and a nicer community. When did people turn so mean? It's hard to find a nice guy in game that speaks english LOL. I wish we had a lieuteant server LOL (yeah I'm aware of the issues)
  • -and i think we need external player to see replay, i hate need enter CF to see my replays
    I think the replay system of Z8games is a very god solution. You have to know that the files are extremely small and are well fitted to report hackers. They just need to add the options they already have announced :S
    IKCMI wrote: »
    u should also add the fact that noobs who want u kicked would join, kick you, if failed, leave, join again and kick you again....
    To be honest, I recently did that in a prison game because there were more hackers than legit players. Something obvious like speedhack and so on. But we cannot blame Z8 games / g4 in this matter because they decide to trust Xtrap although Xtrap seems a little bit overwhelmed.
  • You listed only 13/1000 of the issues we have :)
  • I also agree with all, but the first one i want to see is "PING CAP ROOMS"