Proposal for the kick system.
I'll post here a sugestion to improve the kick system, hoping that some people will take the time to read.
So here I go :
I'm not going to complain about hackers here, assuming that z8games do kick the hackers when they receive videos. But with that in mind, we all know that many of these banned hackers just go on, make new accounts and cheat again. On the other hand, some players, do see hackers everywhere, even when there'S not... But we can't blame them, since cheats are present, it is normal that people get suspicious. Then, as soon as you get a bit good, chances are that you get vote kicked as soon as you do a nice kill streak.
My proposition would be that everyone gets an immunity to kick voting, until z8games as evidence that you hack. As soon as you would be founded hacking, you're immunity would be taken off for 3? 6? 9? 12? months, but the account would not be banned. Hoping this would prevent hackers to just make new accounts over and over, they would keep they're banned account but could get kicked out of the game.
Maybe this could be tried only in a specific game type, then with players feedback we could see if it works.
Thx for the time.
So here I go :
I'm not going to complain about hackers here, assuming that z8games do kick the hackers when they receive videos. But with that in mind, we all know that many of these banned hackers just go on, make new accounts and cheat again. On the other hand, some players, do see hackers everywhere, even when there'S not... But we can't blame them, since cheats are present, it is normal that people get suspicious. Then, as soon as you get a bit good, chances are that you get vote kicked as soon as you do a nice kill streak.
My proposition would be that everyone gets an immunity to kick voting, until z8games as evidence that you hack. As soon as you would be founded hacking, you're immunity would be taken off for 3? 6? 9? 12? months, but the account would not be banned. Hoping this would prevent hackers to just make new accounts over and over, they would keep they're banned account but could get kicked out of the game.
Maybe this could be tried only in a specific game type, then with players feedback we could see if it works.
Thx for the time.
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I don't see how it would add to the problem... If you see an hacker that you can't kick, you send the video to z8games (we got to give them that, the video record system for hacks is good on this game) and send it. Next day you see the same hackers, you're able to kick him.
Instead of the actual method which is : You see an hacker and kick him. Save the video, send it to z8games and he gets banned. Next day, you see him again, but now he's a rookie with a new IGN. -
Hackers get banned at the moment when they get caught, This would only be relieving their punishment.
Thats the whole point. Instead of just making a new account, they wouldn't since their account is still playable. So they will keep they're account, but in exchange they are exposed to getting kicked out. Otherwise they will just make a new account to hack again. -
I'll post here a sugestion to improve the kick system, hoping that some people will take the time to read.
So here I go :
I'm not going to complain about hackers here, assuming that z8games do kick the hackers when they receive videos. But with that in mind, we all know that many of these banned hackers just go on, make new accounts and cheat again. On the other hand, some players, do see hackers everywhere, even when there'S not... But we can't blame them, since cheats are present, it is normal that people get suspicious. Then, as soon as you get a bit good, chances are that you get vote kicked as soon as you do a nice kill streak.
My proposition would be that everyone gets an immunity to kick voting, until z8games as evidence that you hack. As soon as you would be founded hacking, you're immunity would be taken off for 3? 6? 9? 12? months, but the account would not be banned. Hoping this would prevent hackers to just make new accounts over and over, they would keep they're banned account but could get kicked out of the game.
Maybe this could be tried only in a specific game type, then with players feedback we could see if it works.
Thx for the time.
wrong section... there is a section for suggestions.... -
Thats the whole point. Instead of just making a new account, they wouldn't since their account is still playable. So they will keep they're account, but in exchange they are exposed to getting kicked out. Otherwise they will just make a new account to hack again.
Or just make a new account to not be kicked anymore it's the same problem. -
Don't you think that they already have tons of videos of rookie players, that already had an old account banned and just made a new one ? This way hackers who would have been founded hacking would just be kicked out from the games and no one would send videos of them, since we're able to kick them. And yes there would be more videos of LEGIT players, but less videos of hackers.
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Or just make a new account to not be kicked anymore it's the same problem.
Why making a new account, if yours is still playable. As far as I know, when you enter in a game, you don't have fun trying to kick everyone on your team do you ? They would just get kicked if they are founded hacking in game. -
Why making a new account, if yours is still playable. As far as I know, when you enter in a game, you don't have fun trying to kick everyone on your team do you ? They would just get kicked if they are founded hacking in game.
People would just automatically kick everybody who is kickable knowing they previously cheated. Getting kicked instantaneously out of every match woould cause people to just make a new account to not be kicked. Being "kickable" is basically being labeled as a cheater and people would abuse this being a public affair. -
Why sit through a previously fun game after a hacker joins to ruin it all?
That is what the kick-vote system is for.
And it would just complicate things adding a system like this.
Banning is the most efficient. Just getting rid of the hackers.
I would agree with you if there would actually be NO hackers. But it's not the situation.
I used to play Tactical Ops (a UT99 mod) and we were a small community of players. We had the same hacking problem. Banning was not the solution since people could just make new accounts over and over and it was giving us, admins a lot of job in order to accept new accounts, then ban them again the next day. Instead, we tried to just put a sticker beside their name which said ''Banned player''. This way, you knew that you were playing with a player that had cheated before. Since the account was still playable, they would not take the trouble to make new accounts over and over just to cheat again. -
People would just automatically kick everybody who is kickable knowing they previously cheated. Getting kicked instantaneously out of every match woould cause people to just make a new account to not be kicked. Being "kickable" is basically being labeled as a cheater and people would abuse this being a public affair.
Not if you add a system like : maximum one kick try per game or something like that. -
My point is just to come up with something that z8game haven't tried yet, as I said it could be only tried in a specific game mod like I don't know, S&D 7 rounds or TD 10 minutes, then we could get players feedback to see if it works, but you can't be telling me that the actual system is working. Trying something new doesn't hurt.
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Either way the system will never work because the monkeys reviewing the replays couldn't tell the difference between fire and water. I do rarely report but when I do it's always a decently high ranked completely blatant (killing through walls beginning of round and even most of them show it in the first round so you only have to watch the replay for 10 seconds) so it's the easiest it could possibly get and they still don't get banned.
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On the other hand, some players, do see hackers everywhere, even when there'S not... But we can't blame them, since cheats are present, it is normal that people get suspicious. Then, as soon as you get a bit good, chances are that you get vote kicked as soon as you do a nice kill streak.
Seriously? I get kicked for no reason..not to mention when i do get a streak (usually 3+)
i get kicked..
Even right after a patch (hack removed temporary), they yell "kika legit. Hack. Aimbot. Wall"
Like wtf? It's the community that has problems. Skill lacking nubs
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