Please help the poor Winchester...

Seriously... Winchester. BlindRob makes it look easy. I got winchester. I use it sometimes. I fail miserably. But why?

Testing out damage rates with my friend, I found out that this poor little gun needs to be upgraded...DRASTICALLY. On a range of 25metres... 1dmg each shot. That's poor. You would be dead with atleast 10 bullets in your body.
Winchester is used by NOBODY. It should be a 1 hit kill weapon. Playing search and destroy today, I shot an opponent in the spine. Thinking it would kill him, I turned away to another, only to get plaffed down by my 78 damaged opponent with a hole in his back.


Seriously. F.M.L. Z8games, seeing as the only thing you care about, is profit on a free game, I come with a polite and pleasing question.

Raise the power of Winchester, and try to LISTEN to the forumers for once. FOR ONCE.


-verymadsnipercamperthatisabouttoquitifnothingisdonesoon
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  • It isn't that hard to use... and just because you shot a person in the "spinal region" doesn't mean it has to be a fatal shot... then again the feet somehow have higher damage rates at times ^^.

    And if they did raise the dmg rate because of a forum poster, what is it that they wouldn't be FORCED to upgrade the dmg rates of other guns. Seriously man, think about it, and think about the other side for a second.

    But how far is 25 meters ingame if I may ask? What could be good comparisons for the distance?

    Peace.
  • Winchester is a joke/collector's gun it's not supposed to be a good gun. It's plenty strong if you use it right. SnD obviously isn't the right mode to use it in. Use it in GM and you'll see how strong it is.
  • one_9 wrote: »
    blah blah

    25 metres, what I would calculate that as, take Blackwidow. From the giant door in front of the GR spawn to where the GR's spawn.

    When I say spine, it would be closer to hitting the neck.
    Think of it, getting hit in the spine with a bullet would cause paralyzis and shock due to drop in blood pressure. With other words, drop dead.

    Peace.
  • one_9 wrote: »
    It isn't that hard to use... and just because you shot a person in the "spinal region" doesn't mean it has to be a fatal shot... then again the feet somehow have higher damage rates at times ^^.

    Yes, cus when somone gets shot in the spine in real life, they can recover to a perfectly normal condition.
  • In real life you cant walk and run normally after being hit in the leg with an Awm... this game isn't about super realism.
  • Yes, cus when somone gets shot in the spine in real life, they can recover to a perfectly normal condition.

    Not really, if a bone has been shattered, it will recover to an even stronger condition, but several nervecells could have been destroyed in the hit.
  • Aqua_holic wrote: »
    In real life you cant walk and run normally after being hit in the leg with an Awm... this game isn't about super realism.

    No game is about super realism. Take MW2. It looks real. But it has the same concept as what you point to. Just saying that Winchester might need a tune up. Ship happens. Good night.
  • an .300 bullet (wich is the bullet the awm uses in this game) would tear your leg off irl...
    but, in this game, it doesn't actually kills you .-.
  • Aqua_holic wrote: »
    In real life you cant walk and run normally after being hit in the leg with an Awm... this game isn't about super realism.
    True, in real life you cant survive a million M9 shots to the foot .
  • i agree with you about rising the damage for the winchester but... not for the reality in games, because if they were so real like in real life, they would be stupid and boring no1 would actually play them, end of story.
  • 74K37H47 wrote: »
    an .300 bullet (wich is the bullet the awm uses in this game) would tear your leg off irl...
    but, in this game, it doesn't actually kills you .-.

    The Winchester in our game is using .44-40 which is a large pistol bullet, yet it doesn't kill!
  • Hey tell u what, i fail with that gun too!!!
  • Winchester was made for close combat.I bought a winchester scope today and i went 22-9 in a snd game. My first match with it.
  • Its supposed to be better thats for sure. Doesn't make sense that the M12s, which uses 9mm, does more damage than the Winchester, which is supposed to kill you with 1 shot anywhere at any range. At least make it a 3 shot kill at long range...

    The Winchester here is made for close combat but it shouldn't be like that.
  • BaychiDa wrote: »
    The Winchester in our game is using .44-40 which is a large pistol bullet, yet it doesn't kill!

    it can kill a fking bear at 180m away, farther than that it will only horribly wound it.
    and it isnt a fatal wound at 180m, it's an insta kill for the center of mass.
    to a bear...
    yeah, i think the winchester needs a buff :x
  • noobsnipah wrote: »
    Seriously... Winchester. BlindRob makes it look easy. I got winchester. I use it sometimes. I fail miserably. But why?

    Testing out damage rates with my friend, I found out that this poor little gun needs to be upgraded...DRASTICALLY. On a range of 25metres... 1dmg each shot. That's poor. You would be dead with atleast 10 bullets in your body.
    Winchester is used by NOBODY. It should be a 1 hit kill weapon. Playing search and destroy today, I shot an opponent in the spine. Thinking it would kill him, I turned away to another, only to get plaffed down by my 78 damaged opponent with a hole in his back.


    Seriously. F.M.L. Z8games, seeing as the only thing you care about, is profit on a free game, I come with a polite and pleasing question.

    Raise the power of Winchester, and try to LISTEN to the forumers for once. FOR ONCE.


    -verymadsnipercamperthatisabouttoquitifnothingisdonesoon

    Yeah the Winchester in real life may not be that powerful, but seriously it's about balance. And if they were worried about being realistic they wouldn't have made the m12s have a higher firing rate then the m4.
    Its supposed to be better thats for sure. Doesn't make sense that the M12s, which uses 9mm, does more damage than the Winchester, which is supposed to kill you with 1 shot anywhere at any range. At least make it a 3 shot kill at long range...

    The Winchester here is made for close combat but it shouldn't be like that.

    Yeah the Winchester isn't a shotgun, it's a rifle - which apparently they don't understand.

    And in real life a shotgun is actually harder to hit stuff at close range then long range, and a shotgun in real life is effective to 100 yards (and that's your average one).
  • [QUOTE=RedSplatter;2110454


    Yeah the Winchester isn't a shotgun, it's a rifle - which apparently they don't understand.

    And in real life a shotgun is actually harder to hit stuff at close range then long range, and a shotgun in real life is effective to 100 yards (and that's your average one).[/QUOTE]

    Yeah even a shotgun should paralyze you at that range. We need better devs...that actually know about weapons.
  • Its supposed to be better thats for sure. Doesn't make sense that the M12s, which uses 9mm, does more damage than the Winchester, which is supposed to kill you with 1 shot anywhere at any range. At least make it a 3 shot kill at long range...

    The Winchester here is made for close combat but it shouldn't be like that.
    Yeah even a shotgun should paralyze you at that range. We need better devs...that actually know about weapons.

    It's fine, most games don't do their research about guns anyway (most don't even care, they just are worried about balancing them so they can unbalance the game with perks).
  • I find the Winchester quite easy to use. I have 2 regular Winchesters and play with it for fun. It's 1 shot head and 1 shot body in mid range. :)
  • Mr_Shady wrote: »
    I find the Winchester quite easy to use. I have 2 regular Winchesters and play with it for fun. It's 1 shot head and 1 shot body in mid range. :)

    Dunno about regular, but with the scope you have to be right in their face for it to work. It's that or shoot them with a whole clip (that would only do about 10-20 damage from long range).
  • Well, the only thing that I'm mad at is Failchester Scope. Why the HELL would you need a scope to "increase weapon's accuracy over longer range" if you simply CAN'T shoot over that longer range? == ... -Epic Facepalm-
  • EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    Well, the only thing that I'm mad at is Failchester Scope. Why the HELL would you need a scope to "increase weapon's accuracy over longer range" if you simply CAN'T shoot over that longer range? == ... -Epic Facepalm-

    Not to mention it's zoom, it's not even a scope...
  • Winchester is A Pro gun,Just Master it the Winchy but the best is to shoot in cqc.
  • I love this gun.

    It's one of those gun you pick when you want a challenge,
    and it's just funny seeing someone die to it.
  • Winchester is A Pro gun,Just Master it the Winchy but the best is to shoot in cqc.

    This game is a CQC game.
  • Yes, cus when somone gets shot in the spine in real life, they can recover to a perfectly normal condition.

    cause apparently this game is based on real life physics... seriously. like no joke. allllll seriousness here......:cool:
    noobsnipah wrote: »
    25 metres, what I would calculate that as, take Blackwidow. From the giant door in front of the GR spawn to where the GR's spawn.

    A lot of Blah blah too :D

    Ty for the comparison. And as I stated to the other poster, remember that this game isn't about real-world physics.
  • i love the winchester. i use it in games and i once got a 15-1 right before my game crashed.
    im getting better with that gun every time i play with it.
  • noobsnipah wrote: »
    Seriously... Winchester. BlindRob makes it look easy. I got winchester. I use it sometimes. I fail miserably. But why?

    Testing out damage rates with my friend, I found out that this poor little gun needs to be upgraded...DRASTICALLY. On a range of 25metres... 1dmg each shot. That's poor. You would be dead with atleast 10 bullets in your body.
    Winchester is used by NOBODY. It should be a 1 hit kill weapon. Playing search and destroy today, I shot an opponent in the spine. Thinking it would kill him, I turned away to another, only to get plaffed down by my 78 damaged opponent with a hole in his back.


    Seriously. F.M.L. Z8games, seeing as the only thing you care about, is profit on a free game, I come with a polite and pleasing question.

    Raise the power of Winchester, and try to LISTEN to the forumers for once. FOR ONCE.


    -verymadsnipercamperthatisabouttoquitifnothingisdonesoon

    You, go play COD if you want realistic damage. Then complain on how their health regenerates if they run and hide.
  • IF this game was realistic i would quit. UZI + M9 combo = fatality o.O
  • noobsnipah wrote: »
    25 metres, what I would calculate that as, take Blackwidow. From the giant door in front of the GR spawn to where the GR's spawn.

    When I say spine, it would be closer to hitting the neck.
    Think of it, getting hit in the spine with a bullet would cause paralyzis and shock due to drop in blood pressure. With other words, drop dead.

    Peace.

    If you're going to be nit-picky, you may as well point out that at m9 isn't a 1 shot hs (which believe it or not.. it would be in real life.) Hell, grenades only kill you if they're right under you, a far cry from reality. Basically, the point is, this game isn't meant to be realistic and a winchester will always be that ****ty gun that you got while trying for the tommy.