Am I the only one that believes this is an issue?

- Moderators should go clean up the guides section, lets face it the majority of those guides are useless.

http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=104331

There is just one example (not to mention it got sticked).

http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=144690
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=143699
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142853
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142990
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142724
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142642
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=141134
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=132058
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=139810
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=139292
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=138151
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=139539
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=138894
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=141358
All not even guides, these are threads that are simply spam.

- Moderators should moderate not simply remove the posts that person XYZ on IRC or MSN tells them to remove (or ones that hurt their e-cred, I really don't know how this works).

I'll be honest here posts that are blatant troll's don't get closed or removed yet posts that are critical about fU or posts by tastylimes trolled get removed in record time. Clearly there is some sort of double standard going on here. Yet racism is essentially allowed, while I have no issue with free speech I find double standards like this comical.
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  • i agree, i am apalled at the standerd of work the moderators do to help this community the delete threads that are by tasty limes fast but not considering to look in other section on the forums they just tunnel vision like the do in pubs
  • lClypher wrote: »
    - Moderators should go clean up the guides section, lets face it the majority of those guides are useless.

    ...Yet racism is essentially allowed, while I have no issue with free speech I find double standards like this comical.

    I agree that a lot of posts in the guide section are full of trollers that necro'd and want to push their post count up, but the guides themselves are ok. Why can't some poster make a guide making some stats about the M4? It is probably WOGL-friendly.

    And please provide proof of your allegation of blatant racism. If you do find racism that is indeed offending... Let a MOD know.
  • Yes the double standards are a joke.

    All the mod is going to tell you is that "We can't do everything."

    I see blatant racism and trolling all the time that the mods leave even after seeing it.
  • i love getting a little infraction and continuing like nothing happened :)

    who actually looks in the guides section. i believe i've only read like 2 guides so far (the theory of how BM works and malte's ak guide)

    but i agree that there isn't enough moderation/order kept on the forums
  • MyAWM wrote: »
    i love getting a little infraction and continuing like nothing happened :)

    who actually looks in the guides section. i believe i've only read like 2 guides so far (the theory of how BM works and malte's ak guide)

    and where has the guides got u ?

    u should find a guide on how to play LoL :)

    (dont ult creeps EVER again)
  • YYoonAA wrote: »
    and where has the guides got u ?

    u should find a guide on how to play LoL :)

    (dont ult creeps EVER again)

    nerd i never used sona lol. it was aram too; even worse

    not to mention it felt like sona's ult did close to nothing
  • one_9 wrote: »
    Why can't some poster make a guide making some stats about the M4? It is probably WOGL-friendly.
    There is a decent guide in the section for the M4A1, however while the individual did put a fair amount of time into it they were not "known".
    one_9 wrote: »
    And please provide proof of your allegation of blatant racism. If you do find racism that is indeed offending... Let a MOD know.
    I'll go digging later, I made a post similar to this before. One example off the top of my head would be PROACEX1 location sure it may not be as offensive but it still is racism.
  • Perhaps someone acted already but I do not see that sticky.

    As for the rest of this, I take care of what I see when I see it. A lot of this is done when I get a break while working so if I make one post and ignore another don't just assume I don't care.
  • MyAWM wrote: »
    nerd i never used sona lol. it was aram too; even worse

    not to mention it felt like sona's ult did close to nothing

    that doesnt change the fact u should ult creeps and fyi ARAM is hard to get fb or kill because of the passivness
  • YYoonAA wrote: »
    that doesnt change the fact u should ult creeps and fyi ARAM is hard to get fb or kill because of the passivness

    fyi thank me for healing you
  • Perhaps someone acted already but I do not see that sticky.


    I noticed it got a sticky and asked a moderator on xfire to remove it (talk about irony I know but hey...). My intention was never to spread false information but to simply "joke" about the quality of most posts in the guides section.
    As for the rest of this, I take care of what I see when I see it. A lot of this is done when I get a break while working so if I make one post and ignore another don't just assume I don't care.
    I can understand this, the problem with it is when you have posts that are critical of forumer united or posts by tastylimes that get deleted in record time while you have entire threads of flame bait being left alone. This of course if going on at the same time, not to mention there are multiple moderators.

    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=144324

    For an example, and not to mention another example of racism.
  • lClypher wrote: »
    I noticed it got a sticky and asked a moderator on xfire to remove it (talk about irony I know but hey...). My intention was never to spread false information but to simply "joke" about the quality of most posts in the guides section.

    I can understand this, the problem with it is when you have posts that are critical of forumer united or posts by tastylimes that get deleted in record time while you have entire threads of flame bait being left alone. This of course if going on at the same time, not to mention there are multiple moderators.

    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=144324

    For an example, and not to mention another example of racism.

    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=141034&highlight=
    this one is golden
  • only moderators that actually do work is Polleus, probably BlindRob but he seems way too inactive.

    useless mods like dot, bruce.. etc condone these types of stuff.
  • YYoonAA wrote: »
    i agree, i am apalled at the standerd of work the moderators do to help this community the delete threads that are by tasty limes fast but not considering to look in other section on the forums they just tunnel vision like the do in pubs

    What does that mean? We do alot that you just dont happen to see.

    Also I'll admit I rarely go into Guides at all. Ill have a look around when I got time but at the moment I dont
    ThroneN00 wrote: »
    only moderators that actually do work is Polleus, probably BlindRob but he seems way too inactive.

    useless mods like dot, bruce.. etc condone these types of stuff.

    Why do you say that? Id like some reason why you think Dot and the rest of us do nothing when we do the most.




    Unfortunately noone here can say that another mod is doing less than another when noone here can actually see what we do. You dont see deleted posts or threads. You dont see infractions.

    No moderator condones rule breaking. Ever.
  • ThroneN00 wrote: »
    only moderators that actually do work is Polleus, probably BlindRob but he seems way too inactive.

    useless mods like dot, bruce.. etc condone these types of stuff.
    clearly just mad, ignore him.





    We do tremendous amounts of work that, if done properly, you never see.
    So I guess most posts in this thread verify our work even if that wasn't the intention.

    I too must admit that Guides kind of slips away, as does some other sections.
    That should be less of a problem with the new forum organization though, as things are more grouped together.
    As for racism etc, do send a PM to whoever to have it removed.
    Some posts will always be overlooked because the thread itself is some old repetition or rant and doesn't get much attention from us.
  • I don't think many will say that mods do nothing at all. I know mods do many things for the CF community that are worth while. The issue for me is that I can be more critical of CF moderators then I can be of fU. That I could copy paste tastylimes posts and likely not be banned. Or my copy pasted M4A1 guide getting sticked while another M4A1 guide (of higher quality anyways) is ignored. My issue here is not with any one individual (I cannot claim who deleted my posts, or the posts of others, and so forth) but my issue is with what appears to be a policy of double standards.
  • lClypher wrote: »
    I'll be honest here posts that are blatant troll's don't get closed or removed yet posts that are critical about fU or posts by tastylimes trolled get removed in record time. Clearly there is some sort of double standard going on here.


    You're right.

    Although I don't blame the mods, I basically have a sticky note on my face that says "blatant troll" when making posts. Even if I post constructively (believe it or not I do) the posts still get deleted because of that sticky note on my face.


    Although it hasn't been too bad in the last week I've been posting. Haven't gotten banned yet which is good, although that's probably because the mods are too tired of doing so.



    I do agree with your post that there have been times that I've gotten banned/infracted for doing something that someone else can do without getting in trouble. Mods who do this shouldn't be mods.
  • TASTELIMES wrote: »
    You're right.

    Although I don't blame the mods, I basically have a sticky note on my face that says "blatant troll" when making posts. Even if I post constructively (believe it or not I do) the posts still get deleted because of that sticky note on my face.


    Although it hasn't been too bad in the last week I've been posting. Haven't gotten banned yet which is good, although that's probably because the mods are too tired of doing so.



    I do agree with your post that there have been times that I've gotten banned/infracted for doing something that someone else can do without getting in trouble. Mods who do this shouldn't be mods.


    why are you still here can i ask?
  • why are you still here can i ask?

    I enjoy his presence.
  • why are you still here can i ask?

    Because forums are very addicting? I've been posting on these forums on/off since 2008. Can I ask why you care if I'm still here?
  • why are you still here can i ask?
    Tastylimes has made more quality posts then you have, while I do know this isn't saying very much it is still true.
  • TASTELIMES wrote: »
    You're right.

    Although I don't blame the mods, I basically have a sticky note on my face that says "blatant troll" when making posts. Even if I post constructively (believe it or not I do) the posts still get deleted because of that sticky note on my face.


    Although it hasn't been too bad in the last week I've been posting. Haven't gotten banned yet which is good, although that's probably because the mods are too tired of doing so.



    I do agree with your post that there have been times that I've gotten banned/infracted for doing something that someone else can do without getting in trouble. Mods who do this shouldn't be mods.
    You get banned for being around, not for something you post. The post just shows us that you're active on a new alt and ready to be banned.


    I don't know if its still in effect though so I'm letting someone else do it
  • I'm talking about months ago when I wasn't being banned that this was happening.

    It's still in effect.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    You get banned for being around, not for something you post. The post just shows us that you're active on a new alt and ready to be banned.


    I don't know if its still in effect though so I'm letting someone else do it

    Removing posts of someone that has been banned even though they are constructive shows your lack of tolerance and professionalism.
  • Kaohsiung wrote: »
    Removing posts of someone that has been banned even though they are constructive shows your lack of tolerance and professionalism.

    Unless of course banning those accounts are due to ban evasion. Constructive or not, no one is above the punishments.

    However, since I don't know the full story of Limes, I can't say if this was the case.
  • TASTELIMES wrote: »
    I'm talking about months ago when I wasn't being banned that this was happening.

    It's still in effect.
    probably cause you trolled long before it was put in to effect
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    probably cause you trolled long before it was put in to effect

    Yes but the posts were constructive, even if I did troll other threads occasionally.
  • TASTELIMES wrote: »
    Yes but the posts were constructive, even if I did troll other threads occasionally.
    Sorry, I don't remember others posts from months back, can't really comment, just assuming.
  • One of the purposes of the recent forum merge is so that things can be contained a little easier for the moderators.

    It also passively helps them by having things buried faster (ie the undesired threads). And exposes the trolls a bit faster under that same principle too.


    Moderators cannot be expected to see EVERY Thread.

    Also before you go and say "just bring more moderators". Right now we're at the highest level of moderators we've ever had. There will always be a % of the users who moan and complain that the moderators are not doing their job.

    And then we bring in more moderators. And then we get more people complaining that they aren't doing their job. It's a pretty endless cycle.

    Sometimes the answer has to come from the community. If you are seeing something you don't like from users (read: Trolls) then you could help by sending a mod a message. "Hey I don't know if you saw this post, but I think it is offensive".

    Instead of saying "You guys suck cause you missed this post".

    You'd be surprised what a little respect and kindness gets you around here.
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