so you people happy the m12s got nerfed ?

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  • Vektis wrote: »
    Whhaaaa whaaaaaaaa!!!!! Some one killed me so the gun that their using must be cheap whaaaaa whaaaaaaaa!!!!!

    Trolling?

    And finally the m12 has been nerfed. Fyl brs
  • Just to make sure everyone read looooola's completely true fact, yesterday was the M12s's 1-year birthday.

    So yeah, still ugly as hell, amiright?
  • I don't think it's been nerfed, at least not the accuracy...

    I tried it out on the shooting range, and this stupid thing was more accurate than the Type 89 on the 90 m target. I made sure my hand wasn't moving and did one shots with each gun... the M12s didn't miss one shot, all of them hit. That's better than the Type, which missed about 2-3. Now the Type 89 may not be the most accurate of rifles, but come on...

    This is with type C crosshair centered on the body.

    So, the accuracy, at least from what I have seen, is still way to high for an SMG.
  • UMP5 wrote: »
    I don't think it's been nerfed, at least not the accuracy...

    I tried it out on the shooting range, and this stupid thing was more accurate than the Type 89 on the 90 m target. I made sure my hand wasn't moving and did one shots with each gun... the M12s didn't miss one shot, all of them hit. That's better than the Type, which missed about 2-3. Now the Type 89 may not be the most accurate of rifles, but come on...

    This is with type C crosshair centered on the body.

    So, the accuracy, at least from what I have seen, is still way to high for an SMG.

    the accuration of the m12s use to be pinpoint before this patch ... i shot people hs from bl spawm to gr spawn with it with 2 bullets.
  • Chibi_Usa wrote: »
    the accuration of the m12s use to be pinpoint before this patch ... i shot people hs from bl spawm to gr spawn with it with 2 bullets.
    Accuration?? eh w/e

    OT: it was even worse before it was nerfed the first time. It had M4-like accuracy when completely emptying the clip... but yesterday, it was nerfed to about the accuracy of the Type-89... which isn't nearly enough.

    How can the accuracy of the M12s be justified when the barrel's so tiny and fires the 9X19mm Parabellum cartridge at range with minimal damage drop-off?
  • St0nedX wrote: »
    Accuration?? eh w/e

    OT: it was even worse before it was nerfed the first time. It had M4-like accuracy when completely emptying the clip... but yesterday, it was nerfed to about the accuracy of the Type-89... which isn't nearly enough.

    How can the accuracy of the M12s be justified when the barrel's so tiny and fires the 9X19mm Parabellum cartridge at range with minimal damage drop-off?

    did i sayed something wrong just saying its nerved and i think its a good point it got nerved
  • Chibi_Usa wrote: »
    did i sayed something wrong just saying its nerved and i think its a good point it got nerved
    just your word usage was wrong... didn't mean to be a grammar nazi... :p

    and yeah, i agree with you.
  • St0nedX wrote: »
    just your word usage was wrong... didn't mean to be a grammar nazi... :p

    and yeah, i agree with you.

    i know my grammar looks like a game of scrabble. :p
  • St0nedX wrote: »
    Accuration?? eh w/e

    OT: it was even worse before it was nerfed the first time. It had M4-like accuracy when completely emptying the clip... but yesterday, it was nerfed to about the accuracy of the Type-89... which isn't nearly enough.

    How can the accuracy of the M12s be justified when the barrel's so tiny and fires the 9X19mm Parabellum cartridge at range with minimal damage drop-off?

    My point exactly... Actually, the m12s has better accuracy, from what I saw. All the bullets were in a really tight pattern, while the Type 89 bullets were really scattered.
    In any case, this thing should have at least one of its stats nerfed to the point of being a liability, like accuracy, power, or ROF. Instead of nerfing them all just a little, just hit one aspect of the gun with a massive nerf. For example, make this thing so inaccurate that long range engagements are pointless and mid range engagements are pushing it.

    Still nice that it got nerfed, even if it is only a little.
  • UMP5 wrote: »
    My point exactly... Actually, the m12s has better accuracy, from what I saw. All the bullets were in a really tight pattern, while the Type 89 bullets were really scattered.
    In any case, this thing should have at least one of its stats nerfed to the point of being a liability, like accuracy, power, or ROF. Instead of nerfing them all just a little, just hit one aspect of the gun with a massive nerf. For example, make this thing so inaccurate that long range engagements are pointless and mid range engagements are pushing it.

    Still nice that it got nerfed, even if it is only a little.

    dont forget its still a beast at close range but thats the RoF
  • When you go to the Weapons test area, you can see that the first 5 bullets are 0 point / no recoil...

    MP5 has 4...

    BOTH weapons when burst fired seem to 'recoil' (rolls eyes, because it shows that Smilegate never touched a gun in their damn lives...) SIDESWAYS in a straight line...

    Me? I say for people to STFU, because they we're complaining about the MP5 before the m12s even was released to this version...means they don't know what the hell they we're talking about.
  • Yea, but the mp5 doesn't really carry its damage out to the lengths of the m12s... you may be able to hit the guy, but it will take a while to kill him. Did you try out the 90m target?
  • it didnt get nerfed did it?? if it did, they sure didnt nerf it enough apparently!!
  • yeah, it got nerfed a little about the power, downed the headshot power to a 2 hit kill at mid to long ranges, altough it is still a one hit kill at close range...

    the accuracy is still amazyingly annoying, i was able to spray down people from one side of long A (black widow) to the other with a m12s i grabbed on the ground (i sold mine for a 1911 a while ago >.<), so, i don't think they altered the accuracy, the recoil i think it's up a little bit, not something you'll notice while spraying >.>

    so, nerfed, i think so, but nerfed enough? i don't think so...

    still overpowered as hell, beated many m4a1-adv/custom/cc/silver users on mexico (where the m12s just lay on the ground everywhere...)
  • Chibi_Usa wrote: »
    NO I DONT HAVE A VIDEO
    and i dont need a video to proof this go play with the m12s and you will notice this realy easy.

    the gun has been destroyed

    The m12 in this game should be literally destroyed. When it's more OP than many of the ZP crate guns(the kriss for example) and can be obtained at such a low lvl and for not that much GP then yeah just remove the gun completely.
  • The m12 in this game should be literally destroyed. When it's more OP than many of the ZP crate guns(the kriss for example) and can be obtained at such a low lvl and for not that much GP then yeah just remove the gun completely.

    make it zp temp as it should be...
    or else, just take away it's power/RoF and accuracy, since the gun doesn't have any of those irl :s
  • aww it's nerfed?
    i was thinking of getting one =p
  • aww it's nerfed?
    i was thinking of getting one =p

    yes it is 100%
  • Well this is great.

    Except the Brazilians will continue to dive on the M12s, even though most of them probably do not realize that the M12s got nerfed.

    I did not know this until I saw this thread.

    Well I'm heading to the Shooting Range to see if this is true.
  • Well, it's about time!
    Either way, m12 users don't really check on the forum, and I don't think they noticed it, or will in the near future...
  • You have M12 users in UK servers?

    Pity.

    Son, they are everywhere.

    Not that I play UK servers, can't stand the place.
  • You can tell right away this kid is lying. 12 body shots? The UZI takes less shots to kill someone. I keep dying with 4 shots at almost any range. Its still the ultimate noob cannon. I guess you just started to suck with it.

    I actually tested it and didn't jump into assumptions. 5 hit kill to the chest or stomach at long range. 4 at close.
  • this game is full of noobs that wont take on the challenge of good guns. they just want to be a group of noobs that play together with AKs, M4s, and AWMs all by themselves and call themselves pro. oh wait, thats called wogl
  • 0_0! Really? For some reason I want to believe you but don't. o_o
  • You can tell right away this kid is lying. 12 body shots? The UZI takes less shots to kill someone. I keep dying with 4 shots at almost any range. Its still the ultimate noob cannon. I guess you just started to suck with it.

    I actually tested it and didn't jump into assumptions. 5 hit kill to the chest or stomach at long range. 4 at close.

    im lying?
    the m12s shoots so fast that 50% of what you shoot dont register or gets tanked away
    so shut up

    and i still play with m12s ...
  • I went to the range with the m12 (since I vowed never to own one ever again) and saw that it is still amazingly accurate at the closest range, then at 30 meters the bullets were trailing off until the recoil had spun 2-3 bullets to the head area then at the longer ranges it was more inaccurate but that's if they're standing still. When you're running around or trying to dodge, you usually end up getting hit by the recoil. So yeah the m12 doesnt shoot with lazer accuracy from 30 meters or further but it's still tight enough to gain kills from most to all ranges.
  • Chibi_Usa wrote: »
    im lying?
    the m12s shoots so fast that 50% of what you shoot dont register or gets tanked away
    so shut up

    and i still play with m12s ...

    HA! Dont register. Doesnt mean its weaker. It could mean they just are laggers or you cant aim. You used the M12s too much now its probably an AK47 for you.


    Its still an over powered, spray and pray weapon for those who cant aim.
  • HA! Dont register. Doesnt mean its weaker. It could mean they just are laggers or you cant aim. You used the M12s too much now its probably an AK47 for you.


    Its still an over powered, spray and pray weapon for those who cant aim.

    its nerfed.
    go buy your self a m12s and shoot with it if you played with one before.
    im not going to ly about some pixels...

    and the tanking has nothing to do with lagg its the rof of the m12s