Barrett for the Hero?
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RawrJafrikan wrote: »Wrong. The Barret does more damage but is slowe reload and ****.
Not everyone's familiar with all of the guns in other versions of the game, no need to be rude...RawrJafrikan wrote: »DEFINITLY!!
Cause you know, this change will "Better the world as a whole"!!!
Seriosly? Stop being full of yourself, this change will only make people angry in HM and probably cause people to complain really badly.
If anything, they should just implement it into the game, not make it a "experiment".
That "better the world as a whole" line was just a joke. Calm down. And I don't really see how it would make people complain, it would just give the hero an option to use a weapon that in most respects is worse than the original... the Barrett does 400 damage on a regular shot, 600 damage on a headshot, and fires about once every two seconds. The FAL on the other hand can do 400 damage to multiple mutants at a time with grenade splash damage, and shoot twice as fast. I've gotten trapped in a room with several mutants, and just by spamming the grenade launcher at the ground while jumping around, got literally 10 thousand damage and a double kill before getting mutated. Add on to that an automatic weapon with a 60 round magazine, fast reload, bullet damage comparable to the AK-47, low recoil, over 500 bullets after extended ammo and better knock back than the Barrett... no one's going to complain if someone chooses to use a Bolt action rifle instead.
Adding the Barrett would just give another option for people that want to do more long range/precision shooting, and not force them to get up close and personal because their AWM got replaced with an unscoped, automatic rifle. The weapon could, however, be considered overpowered as a regular weapon. Even with it's high weight and low firing speed, it has enough power to one hit kill to any part of the body... though a box. In MM/HM, while one rifle may not be able to off balance the sides, a team of players with half machine guns and half Barrett's would be almost impossible to defeat. The developers are hesitant to include it in the regular game because of this high power, and they have basically said flat out that we should not be expecting the Barrett any time soon. And can you really blame them, after seeing how much people complain about the M12s?
Still, a lot of people do want to see the Barrett come to this version just because it's a badass gun, even if it does have it's overpowered elements. That's why adding it as an option for the Hero, to be used by maximum one player at a time, by a team that's already at a disadvantage, would be better than just introducing it as a regular weapon that you equip. If it turns out to be as overpowered as some people say, it would still be perfectly suited for the role as the "Hero's" gun.
Alternatively, if the community thinks that it's power balances out with it's firing rate and weight so it wouldn't disrupt the gameplay of normal modes, it could be added as a crate/coupon prize. This would give some much appreciated variety to the sniper rifles you see in normal matches: AWM, AWM reskin, AWM, DSR, AWM reskin, etc... Another 1hk rifle would be great to have, and a lot people (myself included) have been hoping for the Barrett to come to our Crossfire for years. Thanks to the recent inclusion of purposely-overpowered weapon of Hero Mode, this could be the Barrett's ticket into CF NA, and there's really no reason that I can see of people having a problem with it. -
how much damage the barret does to mutants?
600dmg in the head in CF China, 100dmg in Japan. I mean, yeah, it is overpowered in china and now that Japan nerfed it, it doesn't even worth it.
In CF China, mutants doesn't even try anymore if there's a barrett. Way too much OP. Also, if we do nerf it, what would be the point of adding it. Most of the Hero fails with Fal Camo, so imagine with a sniper. Also, even thought is slow reload, I've seen some chinese dude quick switching so fast with this gun, it's crazy, o_O
I'm gonna quote Saidin: "We don't need another overpowered sniper." You guys should really stop asking for Barrett and AN94. They are both OP. You guys always QQ about M12s, Scar L., Thompson and etc. Well, these are kinda worse. At the moment they will add AN94, you'll be like: OMFG TY Z8!!!
Then, 1 week after or earlier: NOOB WEAPON! :mad: So, will be the Barrett as well.
Sometimes, I don't understand this community, honestly. Even if Saidin said Barrett would be good only in MM/HM, I still don't want it at all. I totally disagree with him for that. Just think about it:- We keep it that way, too overpowered.
- We nerf it between 100 and 300hp, not worth adding it.
You might not agree with me at all, but it's my opinion and you must deal with it, I'm definitely not gonna change my mind. Nuff said. -
sandwichROAR wrote: »That's why adding it as an option for the Hero, to be used by maximum one player at a time, by a team that's already at a disadvantage, would be better than just introducing it as a regular weapon that you equip.
Mutation Mode and Hero Mode are very well balanced. But people don't teamwork, that's why mutants always win. Ask the players of CF China. They always teamwork. Until one of them bring Barrett, mutants just runs away... But with or without, they still usually pwn. I mean, back while when I was using a XM8 and Tar-21 in CF China, we were camping on the publicity sign in R. Facility. They had m4, m16, xm8 and we won. They retain their ammo. Unlike there, where ppl shoot all of them, then try to knife mutants while we resist and the rest follow: they get mutated then infect us because they lagg toward us behind.
Anyway, back in topic. If Fal Camo can resist that much, why using a Barrett. Most of the players can't cover you, it wouldn't help and will end by: "NOOB HERO", just saying. The best option would be to give him his shotgun on his back as secondary. Also, some ppl suggested to give him 1 mutation grenade or 2. All those kind of idea that might be interesting. But Barrett is definitely no, for me. You guys have your opinion, I have mine. -
Listen to Simrock. I mean...the M12s is way more OP but why add more OP weapons? It might be slow and heavy, but you can quick switch and fire it faster.
Adding it to HM/MM wouldn't be that bad but it wouldn't be good/helpful since like Simrock mentioned, most Heros fail so hard with the FAL-Camo and it has a god dam grenade launcher. -
How is it overpowered? The awm is a 1 hit >.>, Isn't that overpowered?
Hell no? Maybe? Because it isn't 1 shot kill wherever you shoot?
Try hitting a guy in the legs with 100HP and if you kill him, I will give you my account.
With Barret, if you shoot him in the legs, he will die... Even if you do to a nail. lol
Anyway you definetely don't know the definition of OP.
My suggestions: Intervention, U.S. SOCOM Mk 23, Desert Eagle Crystal -
Barrett does 3 times more damage than AWMhow much damage the barret does to mutants?
The c0cking time is very slow and the reload is somewhat slow a little...would probably have same dmg as AWM, but faster c0cking time and faster reload. -
sandwichROAR wrote: »Everyone wants the Barrett. Dev's think it will be overpowered. But how about this: a person that selected as the Hero, if he was originally using a sniper rifle, got upgraded to the Barrett sniper rifle instead of the FAL? It would let the community test out the gun, and the devs could get some feedback on whether people would want it in other modes and/or if it needs to be nerfed. And in HM, not MM, it's not going to be all that overpowered anyways: it would still take basically every bullet from a 10 round magazine to kill even an average mutant. And since those bullets are shot at about one round every two seconds, it really isn't even useful to keep one mutant at bay. In other words: the gun isn't effective at all if people can't work as a team, and if you've ever played HM, you know that most of the people there could use a lesson in teamwork. This sniper rifle will build life skills of the entire Cross Fire community, and better the world as a whole.
TL;DR: Barrett sniper for the Hero, community can try it out and say yay or nay for other modes, and it will teach players the importance of working together.
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good idea and all but i dont think they will do this but i give it a plus 1>. -
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They said the Gatling gun would stay in the MM drop boxes and never be placed into any crates for purchase as perm or anything else. Then low and behold, they break there word and place it in ZP crates. Same thing would happen with the Barrett. It would be the most OP gun to come out since then M12s.
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