How to defend against being kicked
Hello.
I like to play online FPS games. A lot. I hate being kicked. A lot. Is here any chance how to defend against being voted by jealous preteen kids? No. You throw grenade to double door in EE. You kill 4 people. You are cheater, you must be kicked. You are going slow round the corner, you reflexively shoot at just appeared enemy, you HS him, you MUST be cheater, so lets vote...
Admins, is it possible to make one server only for Staff Sergeants+ players with K/D ratio above 2? I think it would decrease the chance to meet idiots in this server a lot. There still will be farmers, cheaters... But it could get a chance.
Thank you for response.
I like to play online FPS games. A lot. I hate being kicked. A lot. Is here any chance how to defend against being voted by jealous preteen kids? No. You throw grenade to double door in EE. You kill 4 people. You are cheater, you must be kicked. You are going slow round the corner, you reflexively shoot at just appeared enemy, you HS him, you MUST be cheater, so lets vote...
Admins, is it possible to make one server only for Staff Sergeants+ players with K/D ratio above 2? I think it would decrease the chance to meet idiots in this server a lot. There still will be farmers, cheaters... But it could get a chance.
Thank you for response.
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You can have a Marshal rank and still kick people, the KD ratio won't really help.KissOnLips1 wrote: »Hello.
I like to play online FPS games. A lot. I hate being kicked. A lot. Is here any chance how to defend against being voted by jealous preteen kids? No. You throw grenade to double door in EE. You kill 4 people. You are cheater, you must be kicked. You are going slow round the corner, you reflexively shoot at just appeared enemy, you HS him, you MUST be cheater, so lets vote...
Admins, is it possible to make one server only for Staff Sergeants+ players with K/D ratio above 2? I think it would decrease the chance to meet idiots in this server a lot. There still will be farmers, cheaters... But it could get a chance.
Thank you for response. -
I think Aimoperative didnt get my point... According to my experience, people with higher K/D are more likely to understand why they were killed. They can see difference between cheating and combination of luck+skill.
When UK4 was created, this "selection" was a good move. I can imagine that K/D restriction would be even better. -
Farmers who don't understand why they were killed (become noob kickers)....that was what i was getting at.KissOnLips1 wrote: »I think Aimoperative didnt get my point... According to my experience, people with higher K/D are more likely to understand why they were killed. They can see difference between cheating and combination of luck+skill.
When UK4 was created, this "selection" was a good move. I can imagine that K/D restriction would be even better.
Unless i am still missing your point again. -
Aimoperative wrote: »Farmers who don't understand why they were killed (become noob kickers)....that was what i was getting at.
Unless i am still missing your point again.
Not everybody with K/D above 2.0 is farmer. Almost all players who are playing CWs, ESL or WOGL matches at high level, have K/D above 2.0. And I do not think playing only these competitions are enough for us. Farmers are everywhere, but they usually do not cheat, so I do not care. -
kissonlips1 wrote: »not everybody with k/d above 2.0 is farmer. Almost all players who are playing cws, esl or wogl matches at high level, have k/d above 2.0. And i do not think playing only these competitions are enough for us. Farmers are everywhere, but they usually do not cheat, so i do not care.
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What idiots these days tend to do is leave the room then come back to vote you. Then if it doesn't go through. They repeat the same process. Until eventually they get tired.
True story.
So..yeah it's hard not to get voted out. But if your really well known then you'll be right. -
I know what it feels like to be kicked. Normaly the ones who try to kick you are just noobs who can't take it when you kill 'em, or a stupid team member who thinks a 5-Multi kill is too epic -_-" .
But since last week , i got kicked by high lvl's , even by guys from ROMANIA who tought I was a hacker. Making a server for people with a high kdr wont change anything, there will always be an idiot who thinks you hack. -
KissOnLips1 wrote: »Not everybody with K/D above 2.0 is farmer. Almost all players who are playing CWs, ESL or WOGL matches at high level, have K/D above 2.0. And I do not think playing only these competitions are enough for us. Farmers are everywhere, but they usually do not cheat, so I do not care.
Now I feel like I'm one of those newbies..
<(Q~Q)>
Am I really the only one with K/D on minus now a days? -
KissOnLips1 wrote: »Hello.
I like to play online FPS games. A lot. I hate being kicked. A lot. Is here any chance how to defend against being voted by jealous preteen kids? No. You throw grenade to double door in EE. You kill 4 people. You are cheater, you must be kicked. You are going slow round the corner, you reflexively shoot at just appeared enemy, you HS him, you MUST be cheater, so lets vote...
Admins, is it possible to make one server only for Staff Sergeants+ players with K/D ratio above 2? I think it would decrease the chance to meet idiots in this server a lot. There still will be farmers, cheaters... But it could get a chance.
Thank you for response.
I think the only way is an instant replay available, and after game complain/report/punishment is allowed. Just to make any players in this game to know that there might be punishment on every improper behavior they did.
Rank and KDR normally can not solve the problem. The rookie players can easily accept the fact being owned because they know they don't have enough experience, don't know the map, but the ranked players might first ask:"is that a hacker?" when anything seems weird to him. I agree that I doubt lots of players, the only difference is that I would not QQ if there is no enough evidence for to further question it, and I would not vote if I am not sure. However, many high rankers would not have the patience to wait for 3 games to kick one player. A lot of vote start right after they feel something different. -
KissOnLips1 wrote: »Hello.
I like to play online FPS games. A lot. I hate being kicked. A lot. Is here any chance how to defend against being voted by jealous preteen kids? No. You throw grenade to double door in EE. You kill 4 people. You are cheater, you must be kicked. You are going slow round the corner, you reflexively shoot at just appeared enemy, you HS him, you MUST be cheater, so lets vote...
Admins, is it possible to make one server only for Staff Sergeants+ players with K/D ratio above 2? I think it would decrease the chance to meet idiots in this server a lot. There still will be farmers, cheaters... But it could get a chance.
Thank you for response.
Wow, I got nade double kill like 2 times in my entire CF career, never 3 or 4 kill, so yeah- that's like woah. Anyway, I had to leave room (EE S&D) after 5-kill, because I was going to be kicked. Got like 27-2 kdr, shame on my teammates.
Well, kicking system in current shape sucks and there is nothing you can really do- maybe except playing on private rooms with friends, but it's obvious. I think UK server 4 (and US counterpart) should be changed for 2nd LT grade or higher. People with such rank are usually expirianced enough to recognize real hacker or find out if the one, who cries is a victim or ordinary QQer. Second thing that should be done is change of kicking system to another one, that's not based on voting but on host care. I would even run room every evening with s&d mode and kick every 100+ pinger, hacker, glitcher by myself.
I wish some day it changes- right now, people who have good day are being kicked (and that turns my good day to bad day immediately) and people who actually ruin everybody else experiance with hacks (1 hit to kill is like plague nowadays) are being untouched. -
KissOnLips1 wrote: »I know there are "lowminds" even between high ranks... Well, why was UK4 server created? I think it is server for more experienced players. So "my" K/D 2.0+ server could be for even more experienced players.
People with K/D on minus doesn't make them more unexperienced than those with +.
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I mean that, they might really be good in pubs but they just like to scrim mostly and they fails there. Or vice versa naturally.
Or then it can be that they are good in small rooms.. But try to find once in a while smaller room than 8/8 ^^'
It can be pretty hard.
At they are good in 4/4 matches or 6/6 for example.
In the end, K/D doesn't tell anything about of the player.
And if it does tell, not that much than we think.
(Even I did once thought K/D means everything..)
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sounds liike a hacker voice here...and i agree with the server idea.....keep the noobs out and let them get the skillz so we do not need a head ache pill from all the eye straining on the screen that the QQ's force us to read....cause lord knows...the kickers are just as much the problem as hackers are
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No, it won't help. Creating these servers are pointless because there will always be immature people everywhere. Even many "so-called pros" QQ at me for hacking. Which I think is pathetic.
Exactly. There are people QQing at me saying "SPOP is noob" and "Kick M12s, Thompson or Kriss super V". In fact, I saw someone saying in prison TDM "Kick AWM" and I was like what the heck? You need AWM to play this room. -
MadSuggester wrote: »In fact, I saw someone saying in prison TDM "Kick AWM" and I was like what the heck? You need AWM to play this room.
ROFL, IKR!
For some people it doesnt matter what you do, even if you play by their rules they will still find something meaningless to cry about.
I'm sure they walk around the real world going, OMG, NOOB, WAAH! at everything that gets in their way. -
lulz bad day today ... 80% of snd matches i got kicked. i leaved this matches when Q.Qers yell f11. so kickvotepopup showed on lobby. i didn't get exp but i saved my k/d. there should be fix ... just to get exp and k/d after beeing kicked would be great! and u can stil report.
finally got my lieutnant colonel rank *..* and handgun ribbon.
P.S obvivious how high ranked sprayers sl or m12 stay at match and sm4rt players wich give them esl handycap going kicked. -
I like the idea of a server with a rank requirement or LT+. Heres why, the vast majority of hackers are low levels, making a server that excludes those creates an environment where you will seldom run across a hacker. The reason the kd requirement would not work is because if you get 4 people with 2.0 kdr's to play against each other for a long enough period eventually and inevitably some of them will drop below a 2.0 then they're in the regular servers where they get kicked again. But good thinking man
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People with K/D on minus doesn't make them more unexperienced than those with +.
<._. >
I mean that, they might really be good in pubs but they just like to scrim mostly and they fails there. Or vice versa naturally.
Or then it can be that they are good in small rooms.. But try to find once in a while smaller room than 8/8 ^^'
It can be pretty hard.
At they are good in 4/4 matches or 6/6 for example.
In the end, K/D doesn't tell anything about of the player.
And if it does tell, not that much than we think.
(Even I did once thought K/D means everything..)
^^'
I absolutely understand all the reasons and facts here. I never said any K/D or rank restrictments would allow only "the elite" to play. But programators can even create server with "structural" K/D and rank restrictions.
By this I mean - Your overally K/D is 1.5, you may enter. Your K/D on S&D public games is 2.1, you may enter S&D public game. Your K/D on EM public games is 1.8, you are NOT allowed to join EM game on this server. 
My "ideal CF server" will never be real. But I really do believe that its possible to get close to it. -
KissOnLips1 wrote: »Hello.
I like to play online FPS games. A lot. I hate being kicked. A lot. Is here any chance how to defend against being voted by jealous preteen kids? No. You throw grenade to double door in EE. You kill 4 people. You are cheater, you must be kicked. You are going slow round the corner, you reflexively shoot at just appeared enemy, you HS him, you MUST be cheater, so lets vote...
Admins, is it possible to make one server only for Staff Sergeants+ players with K/D ratio above 2? I think it would decrease the chance to meet idiots in this server a lot. There still will be farmers, cheaters... But it could get a chance.
Thank you for response.Only 1 solution:
Play with people that know you. They will automatically press F12 for you.
Its not foolproof, but its the best tip I've got.
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