New strategy for weak clans!!
I posted this issue 2 weeks before...and guess what...some self-righteous crusader MOD deleted it. I dont know which of them it was, but I wanna say this to him: If you delete this thread again, I will send a PM to Saidin about this and ask what rules am I breaking by warning honest users about bad intentioned clans? I pay money to play this game, which you may say donation, but because you are a MOD, elected in that position because you stalk the forums more than most people, doesnt make you above anyone else. Your power begins and ends here on the forums and abusing it is also a "infraction".
Back to the issue at hand. Like i said in the older post, I became aware of a new strategy, that one clan ( check the screenshots and guess which one ) are using against legitimate users.
Whenever they join a room, they log in 1-2-3 characters that will remain AFK for the whole duration of the game ( dont ask from where they log them in, i have no idea, but i know its them because wherever you see that clan, you see AFK chars --TIGER--, xxmarko, audi***x, gurga, etc.)
Why do they do this? To farm on them basically, during S&D always, and to kick good players from opposite team. If someone kills a high ranker from the clan, next roung one of the AFK chars pops out the vote kick and bye bye honest player. Members from the clan press F11, those AFK cows press F11 and some other noobs not aware of this press F11.
I know the OFFICIAL EXCUSE is " bla bla the vote kick system isnt perfect, it happens to be abused some times, etc etc. "
The real question is: " Is z8 encouraging this? I know farming isn't illegal, but from that to ruining peoples game expierence by these dirty tricks, lets just say its pretty lame, especially for a game that is said to support its users.
I do not ask for punishment for these clan members. Im sure they are little kids, farmers, some even suspicious of hacks. I just wanna see if someone from z8 has the "cojones" to personally PM the leader of that clan ( he uses this practice too) and tell him that what they are doing is disgusting.
P.S. First screenshot, they kicked 2 members before me, I was the 3rd one to be kicked.
Second screenshot, I spotted one from their clan, vote kicked him out of the room, then he called in for backup, i was voted 5 times, but didnt go out until i Exited being sick of their circus.
Take this as a QQ thread if you want, I know there are a lot of clans more annoying than this one, but does that mean we just have to sit down, quiet?
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Think of this when judging this issue!
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Back to the issue at hand. Like i said in the older post, I became aware of a new strategy, that one clan ( check the screenshots and guess which one ) are using against legitimate users.
Whenever they join a room, they log in 1-2-3 characters that will remain AFK for the whole duration of the game ( dont ask from where they log them in, i have no idea, but i know its them because wherever you see that clan, you see AFK chars --TIGER--, xxmarko, audi***x, gurga, etc.)
Why do they do this? To farm on them basically, during S&D always, and to kick good players from opposite team. If someone kills a high ranker from the clan, next roung one of the AFK chars pops out the vote kick and bye bye honest player. Members from the clan press F11, those AFK cows press F11 and some other noobs not aware of this press F11.
I know the OFFICIAL EXCUSE is " bla bla the vote kick system isnt perfect, it happens to be abused some times, etc etc. "
The real question is: " Is z8 encouraging this? I know farming isn't illegal, but from that to ruining peoples game expierence by these dirty tricks, lets just say its pretty lame, especially for a game that is said to support its users.
I do not ask for punishment for these clan members. Im sure they are little kids, farmers, some even suspicious of hacks. I just wanna see if someone from z8 has the "cojones" to personally PM the leader of that clan ( he uses this practice too) and tell him that what they are doing is disgusting.
P.S. First screenshot, they kicked 2 members before me, I was the 3rd one to be kicked.
Second screenshot, I spotted one from their clan, vote kicked him out of the room, then he called in for backup, i was voted 5 times, but didnt go out until i Exited being sick of their circus.
Take this as a QQ thread if you want, I know there are a lot of clans more annoying than this one, but does that mean we just have to sit down, quiet?
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Think of this when judging this issue!
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but that proves nothing? in one game they on opposite sides, then the same side?
this proves nothing? except maybe they're friends//bad players?
as to the rule ur breaking, ur intentionally targeting one group of players with no proof? accusing them of something that you cnt prove they do? -
Natterz666 wrote: »but that proves nothing? in one game they on opposite sides, then the same side?
this proves nothing? except maybe they're friends//bad players?
as to the rule ur breaking, ur intentionally targeting one group of players with no proof? accusing them of something that you cnt prove they do?
What proof do you want more? Should I find them in real life and beat the truth out of them? I know what they are doing, if you have doubts I respect your opinion. You will change it once you enter a map with them, see the afk chars and get kicked for owning them.
Edit: i dont have screenshots for the other times I saw this. Im not an idiot to base this theory on 2 screenshots. They do this every time there are more of them on map. On the second screenshot they couldnt join the AFK chars on my team cuz it was full, they stormed after i kicked one of them and he called for backup, chars to press F11 in kick attempts. -
In an issue like this, its possible. I think people should at least try to make a difference. I am open to opinions from people who have experienced problems with these guys and even from people from that clan! If what I say is not true, lets see them post here. Slim chances though.
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point is farming is not illegal ... it's not powerlvlng like on many other mmorpgs. so just rise ur desertations when u see it. *..* no need to flame about. btw nothing is perfect.
To note here, farming may be legal, but player grieving is not. If they simply left the accounts idle to farm off of, they aren't doing anything against the rules, however, if they are indeed abusing the kick vote just because a player is doing what they are supposed to in this particular case it is against the rules. This is also a form of 'pub jacking'. -
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[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »Chances are the reason it was closed/deleted was the trolling and flaming that might have gone on. Chances are this will be no different if it happens again.
Just goes on to show how incompetent the mods are in this forum. You can't post the flaws of the game without being called a QQer. Sad. -
lifepwner14 wrote: »Just goes on to show how incompetent the mods are in this forum. You can't post the flaws of the game without being called a QQer. Sad.
There's a difference between posting flaws on the forum and having intelligent discussions versus threads of flaws that contain nothing but trollers and people who think they know everything, like yourself. That is the reason such topics close, not because of the content unless its strictly against the rules to begin with. -
Thanks for the input on the matter. My sentiments exactly, if they wanna play private game, why dont they make a passworded room? Whenever I see a room with 8+ players from one clan, I think twice before joining, due to high chances to get kicked. I dont mind the kick so much, as the AFK chars which bring your team down (minus 1-2 players matters) and makes them get free kills (helping them steal ACE or MVP).
P.s. Im almost sure you are not the one to close my old thread. From what Ive seen so far, you are quite a balanced MOD, though others act like crusaders of justice and one, who shall remain nameless, like a little kid. You have my respects TalonBlaze. -
Well, let me ask you a question.
What would the solution be?
I personally offered a solution that would benefit everyone, and would reduce the hacking population by 90%, but Z8 wanted none of it, because it will hurt their income (the hackers would stop buying ZP on other accounts).
The entire problem is--the exact same thing that is also affecting the political system of the United States currently (yes, it's the truth)--that NO ONE wants to give up anything to make things better for everyone. Everyone wants their cake and eat it too and no one wants to compromise. (anyone who wants my solution can just search some of my old posts).
And the loser is the player, here.
It isn't the hackers. They don't care. They only care if a high ranked account that purchased ZP gets banned (like this 1st Lt who I reported for aimbotting/1 hit KO today).
It isn't Z8...they have a steady flow of kids who are all too willing to scrounge up some $10's to buy ZP cards.
It isn't whoever makes Xtrap. Constant updates keep them employed.
Yes I know I'm going off on a tangent again...
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