Even better suggestion for hackers!!
Z8 will never equalize the banned:hack ratio realistically.
That being said, why not add an item to the black market(price can debated) where you can be an "Elite Room Master" who can bypass the vote kick system with an unlimited insta-kick ability to fight off the endless barrage of hackers. That way we can play tdm or any mode for that matter without the fear of hackers and/or noobs who doesn't F11? I know some how, some way this can be abused, but that pales in comparison of the hack crisis.
Discuss.
That being said, why not add an item to the black market(price can debated) where you can be an "Elite Room Master" who can bypass the vote kick system with an unlimited insta-kick ability to fight off the endless barrage of hackers. That way we can play tdm or any mode for that matter without the fear of hackers and/or noobs who doesn't F11? I know some how, some way this can be abused, but that pales in comparison of the hack crisis.
Discuss.
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Yeah, similar ideas have been discussed a lot. But the issue is the separation between a good player and a hacker. Because realistically this is an unfair rage weapon. Besides, why should we spend our ZP on something that is Z8 and X-Trap's problem? We waste enough of it on crates that give us a next-to-nothing chance of winning something besides 1000 GP and sprays.
But I have noticed the hacking isn't as bad as it was before (like last week) so it shows they're still making progress. Yet everyday there's a new hack that I come across, so I guess it just evens itself out. -
[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »And pray tell what happens if said hackers buy such an item? You will never get rid of them since you just made them immune to kicks.
Well add requirements. I'd say about 95% of hackers are below 2nd LT, so make it a rank requirement. And if the argument is it's Zp well if someone buys useless crates I'm sure if they had a brain they'd buy an item to improve their in game experience. Alternatively you can make that ability a free privilege to loyal players who have reached the rank of 1st or 2nd LT or make it a GP item with the same requirement. -
Well add requirements. I'd say about 95% of hackers are below 2nd LT, so make it a rank requirement. And if the argument is it's Zp well if someone buys useless crates I'm sure if they had a brain they'd buy an item to improve their in game experience. Alternatively you can make that ability a free privilege to loyal players who have reached the rank of 1st or 2nd LT or make it a GP item with the same requirement.
Why not just hire more mods then...?
(BTW: I just reported a 1st LT this morning for one-hitting. He had Honorable Soldier and now I'm so excited to see it taken away! The sweet smell of revenge.
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I just say 9 hackers in one game...It was yesterday.NeoSpectrum wrote: »But I have noticed the hacking isn't as bad as it was before (like last week) so it shows they're still making progress. Yet everyday there's a new hack that I come across, so I guess it just evens itself out.
Well, I really like the main idea of this thread. There are enough well known advanced players who could use this item properly. And I would not mind some hackers to abuse this item since their accounts will be banned anyway. So they would lose more money.
Maybe you could modify it that only higher ranks could use it. I dont think that farming is such a big problem. Many clans kick members who start farming. My clan for example acts like this. -
True but I'd rather farmers have it than hackers. Also rooms would have to be marked if the room master is "Elite".
Hmm. But keep in mind that they were testing an auto-kick system in HM since a few patches ago, which I think has been working pretty well. I think they just have to refine the auto-kick then they can implement it everywhere.
(I don't know how it works, I have guesses, but not positive; just that it works pretty well.) -
Didn't get it
By the way, this thing would be abused by crying noobs without any doubt, and cheaters that become in possession of it will abuse of it aswell
There are much fewer 1st LT that are crying noobs and hackers.
Thanks , it's just a rough draft. People can add on or subtract as they please.I just say 9 hackers in one game...It was yesterday.
Well, I really like the main idea of this thread. There are enough well known advanced players who could use this item properly. And I would not mind some hackers to abuse this item since their accounts will be banned anyway. So they would lose more money.
Maybe you could modify it that only higher ranks could use it. I dont think that farming is such a big problem. Many clans kick members who start farming. My clan for example acts like this.
I don't see how refining the existing vote kick will help because it's not the number of votes that should be addressed, it is the voters who I am worried about. Tdm is filled with either clueless newbies or people who wants to win with the hacker on their team. That's why if you play snd with a skilled audience 10/10 times the hacker will be kicked. So the quickest and most efficient way to remedy the symptoms of this hack plagued game is to either implement my auto-kick-1stLT-gp/zp room master item or perhaps like the rank restriction server like delta make a new one for 2nd LT+ however this will be an unfair solution to those at a lower rank.NeoSpectrum wrote: »Hmm. But keep in mind that they were testing an auto-kick system in HM since a few patches ago, which I think has been working pretty well. I think they just have to refine the auto-kick then they can implement it everywhere.
(I don't know how it works, I have guesses, but not positive; just that it works pretty well.) -
Support section?
And no, that's a bad idea. You want zp *****s to rule over the game? Some of them hack amd some QQ. The system is "fine" as it is and doesn't need any sort of improvement unless anybody gets a genious idea..
support section ?
you mean suggestion Oo -
we don't need a second combat arms.Z8 will never equalize the banned:hack ratio realistically.
That being said, why not add an item to the black market(price can debated) where you can be an "Elite Room Master" who can bypass the vote kick system with an unlimited insta-kick ability to fight off the endless barrage of hackers. That way we can play tdm or any mode for that matter without the fear of hackers and/or noobs who doesn't F11? I know some how, some way this can be abused, but that pales in comparison of the hack crisis.
Discuss. -
Someone post a good argument pretty please. I'm bored.
Ok. So what if, a 2nd, 1st lieutenant has his/her account stolen and luckily for the person, there's enough zp to obtain the item if it hasnt been obtained already. Then we'd be having a hacker who owns the item and can use it, along with manipulating a few votes for garaunteed kicks.
Other problem is if there is a clan that has that high a mark and buys the package, he/she can use it, along with clanmates to invade a room. Same thing could happen if the clan is full of farmers. Not only that but people who are on a hot streak and doing well, will become victims of a un-needed kick more likely.
I don't know about you, but sometimes I like to see how good a player I am and I don't want to be punished just because I'm doing well even though I do get punished already by the vote kick system we have in place....
Other thing is, if a hacker has either hacked or farmed his way to those ranks, the player can do surveys and offers and easily obtain the amount of zp needed for the item. -
I don't see how refining the existing vote kick will help because it's not the number of votes that should be addressed, it is the voters who I am worried about. Tdm is filled with either clueless newbies or people who wants to win with the hacker on their team. That's why if you play snd with a skilled audience 10/10 times the hacker will be kicked. So the quickest and most efficient way to remedy the symptoms of this hack plagued game is to either implement my auto-kick-1stLT-gp/zp room master item or perhaps like the rank restriction server like delta make a new one for 2nd LT+ however this will be an unfair solution to those at a lower rank.
No, it's auto-kick. Note vote-kick. So the system detects one hit hacks in a Hero Mode match and will auto-kick a hacker in the game without calling a vote. I believe it was in the minor patch after the Spring one. -
Same here. Well 1.3 isn't all that bad when there's a hacker in every room you've played in for the last year...
I have 1.8, 2nd luit, but i have RQ'ed soooo many times...T^T
It's possible to get a 2kdr without farming, but that's just selecting yourself to farming in pub TDM... -
1 - what is stopping hackers buying this item.. some pay for their hacks so they will pay for the item too.
2 - Z8 like to try keep this game equal as possible for both ZP buyers and non-ZP buyers.... if only people who can get this item are zp buyers then it throws the balance off. -
that mean shut up just kiddingz8 will never equalize the banned:hack ratio realistically.
That being said, why not add an item to the black market(price can debated) where you can be an "elite room master" who can bypass the vote kick system with an unlimited insta-kick ability to fight off the endless barrage of hackers. That way we can play tdm or any mode for that matter without the fear of hackers and/or no you ***** who doesn't f11? I know some how, some way this can be abused, but that pales in comparison of the hack crisis.
Discuss. -
Z8 will never equalize the banned:hack ratio realistically.
That being said, why not add an item to the black market(price can debated) where you can be an "Elite Room Master" who can bypass the vote kick system with an unlimited insta-kick ability to fight off the endless barrage of hackers. That way we can play tdm or any mode for that matter without the fear of hackers and/or noobs who doesn't F11? I know some how, some way this can be abused, but that pales in comparison of the hack crisis.
Discuss.
And then pro players might also get instant kicked by noobs + people will abuse it ? No sorry. -
Wooooooow are you guys kidding me? Did you guys read all of my posts and not just the first one? Just because 1 person might abuse it doesn't mean EVERYONE that's a 1st LT will. And yes the idea came from combat arms which worked perfectly. Combat arms is just as infested with hack as crossfire. But that Elite Room Master's room was a safe haven from all the other hack plagued rooms. And if a 1st LT hacker buys this item I'd be happy to be kicked from the room he is in. And remember you cannot use these powers unless you made the room. And the item could be GP for 1st LT+. Guys please read all of my post and not the first one thanks.
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Well add requirements. I'd say about 95% of hackers are below 2nd LT, so make it a rank requirement. And if the argument is it's Zp well if someone buys useless crates I'm sure if they had a brain they'd buy an item to improve their in game experience. Alternatively you can make that ability a free privilege to loyal players who have reached the rank of 1st or 2nd LT or make it a GP item with the same requirement.
95%? And what if they farm (since apparently they have to cheat on everything)?
This thread should be closed on the grounds of being an obscenely stupid idea...
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