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[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »

Mind you the opposite would have (and has) definitely factored in for Ghosts for their patch jobs. I'm pretty sure no GR liked having the shovel in GM, but ghost's love it. Same for the Shock Absorber. Its always a teeter totter of whos getting the better deal at many points.

After all, you can look at it this way:
Ghosts run faster
Ghosts can use 1 hit melee weapons
Ghosts can bunnyhop allowing them to remain invisible
Ghosts have Shock Absorber so they don't make a loud noise when falling
Ghosts have Breath Down and Step Down
Ghosts benefit the most from wearing armour

GR have smoke nades and light
GR have guns, ranging from terribad to okay.
GR has ears which are only useful if they bought their own headphones.

Er.. hows is it still favoured in gr other than ghosts not being able to blatantly sit in front of smoke and light now?

Ummm yeah, GR had the major advantage over ghosts even before this patch. They have ranged weps which means a ghost has to sneak up to them to kill them and if you fail even once in your bhop you're done. Breath down doesn't completely eliminate the breath noise so someone with headphones can easily pick up on it still. There are so many ways for GR players to make it easier to locate and kill ghosts and they don't need the devs to help them out.

The fun part of being a ghost was to sneak into a pack of GR and try to pick them off. Now it's going to be nigh impossible since like one person stated, the whole map is going to be full of smoke bombs.

This GM part of the patch is mega fail imo. It's still a toss up for this new reg BS. Haven't really played more than an hour since the patch but i can tell you that it's even more frustrating now then before the patch having to deal with these laggers.

[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »

How many guns 1 hit kill without a headshot? Not many. How many melee weapons can 1 hit kill without a headshot? All of them are capable. (Yes, even the knife.)

And how many melee weapons can hit you from across the room without a hack? How many melee weapons can spray multiple projectiles in less than a second? You should kiinda see where i'm going with this. You talk about the melee weps being mostly 1 hits but the guns can spray many projectiles in a little amount of time and at a distance.

i no im so tired of all these zp sht. i have 150k GP and nothing to spend it on. FPS hasnt changed 4 me, in fact i think it dropped even more. and 4 me the reg is way WAY worse

[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »

1. Ranged weapons didn't do squat unless you sprayed your heart out, since most of the time, if your within a ghost's breath down range, your in killing range.

2. Define easily? Are you saying that a GR's reaction time to hear breath, aim, avoid and shoot at the same time is better than a ghost merely coming up to whack them with their weapon? Doubtful, and also, the ghost reaches the GR before their breath does.

3. And not your one point there 'going into a pack of GR and picking them off' oh yeah, that sounds like they are totally OP right there doesn't it? if you can go into a pack of players unnoticed casually and kill a bunch of them and still manage to get away unscathed, there's balance issues. Not to mention the shovel's 360 kill ability? go into a group of gr, spin and swing = profit.

As said again, the smoke issue is only a problem for those who seem to be incapable of moving away from smoke, or those that rush. Adapt.

1. If your headphones are up high enough(which a person of any intelligence would do) you can hear from which general direction the breath is coming from.

2. Yes you can have the reaction time to shoot a BL before he swings at you. Not even going to mention the whole issue with lag because the GR(if laggy) could already have been shooting at you when you have swung therefore meaning you are dead.

3. And when did i say it would be easy going into pack and picking them off one by one. Seeing as soon as someone gets killed in a group of GR they just spray the immediate area and if you don't bhop fast enough your dead.

Only the noobs and poor people would complain about the BL having any advantage over the GR. I've played both sides and the GR side is too easy imo. I play BL side for the challenge and this new addition with this patch made that challenge non-existent. Especially since you only have to buy a smoke grenade once for a low GP price.

Btw that whole adapt BS is just that because it would be hard to move anywhere for a good 30 seconds with most of the map covered in smoke.

MonsterSquad wrote: »

1. If your headphones are up high enough(which a person of any intelligence would do) you can hear from which general direction the breath is coming from.

2. Yes you can have the reaction time to shoot a BL before he swings at you. Not even going to mention the whole issue with lag because the GR(if laggy) could already have been shooting at you when you have swung therefore meaning you are dead.

3. And when did i say it would be easy going into pack and picking them off one by one. Seeing as soon as someone gets killed in a group of GR they just spray the immediate area and if you don't bhop fast enough your dead.

Only the noobs and poor people would complain about the BL having any advantage over the GR. I've played both sides and the GR side is too easy imo. I play BL side for the challenge and this new addition with this patch made that challenge non-existent. Especially since you only have to buy a smoke grenade once for a low GP price.

Btw that whole adapt BS is just that because it would be hard to move anywhere for a good 30 seconds with most of the map covered in smoke.

My point in this matter is that they both have their advantages and disadvantages, I could counter each of your arguments all day if I wanted to, trust me, GM alone gives me enough to do so. Especially if we start dividing it between pubs and scrims. Its endless.

You play BL for a challenge? then you have even more of a challenge, that fact hasn't changed according to your logic. A non-existent challenge is one that is of ease.

Heh and just from the sounds of your last post, if 30 seconds is far too long for you then patience needs to be learned. you got a whole almost 3 minutes. you only need 3-5 seconds to plant a bomb. If you can't adapt to a small change and wait for smoke to disappear then i'd vote for the shovel to be removed for its ridiculous reach. Are either gonna change? doubtful, therefore you must adapt, otherwise you fall. simple. human evolution right there. adapt or die.

iDisappear wrote: »

Play me 1v1 GM? We'll switch sides after 7 rounds?

Mods don't vs..
And your signature is a lie!

Anyway,

I think the patch is good, haven't noticed anything in my GM gameplay nor FPS improvement.
Reg is still kinda bad, when you make a graph you'll see that the hitboxes are not dead on, but more the less 'dragged' by the player, for instance shooting someones back hair will kill him in air. (ohye!)

anyway, xtrap is doing what they can, patching hacks is still hard, but i think they are looking for a more 'permanent' fix. Z8 could look at it to.

I dunno if it helps but, encrypting the REZ files so their unreadable will fix a lot of low hackers, then only the good ones will be able to and hacks will cost more = less hacks.

Clown-

[MOD]Rex wrote: »

3 - Ghost Mode? Any good GM player can still easily win as BL. I've had no trouble myself. And if I can win as BL, and another good GM player can't, that's sad.

[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »

either learn to play BL a bit different and adapt like a good ghost or learn to play GR. simple. the devs decide whats what, regardless of other's opinions.

we still can win agains a team with 5 gr hackers.
yea we can kill most of the chammers/wallers but is this dont make it fair all
we to do is rush from they back and kill them.

the "you have to adapt" is BS.
why in GOD's name you guys change a mode without NO one, NO one was asking for?
we ask for new GM maps and u guys screw up the whole mode.

yea now the game is Fairly balanced right? any new gm player can kill a
2 years experienced bhopper.

Im pretty sure MODs play this game and when we have about 80% of gm players(not the one who dont have a clue on what pinpoint means) complaining about about this change
and all the MOD says "is not a big deal, just adapt your gameplay" well they have to do what z8 tell them to do right?


go screw the TD games please dont make more new ''improvements" on gm.

I agree. But dont QQ abt 2 BM weps. I've tried for about 1 year spending over 700$ NOT ONE GODDAM BM WEP. FML .

MonsterSquad wrote: »

This GM part of the patch is mega fail imo.

^

it couldn't have been intentional. They completely ignored GM for over a year then randomly add something that makes ghosts visible even if they aren't in the smoke/light. Has to be a bug.

just cause is good

Cassyoxx wrote: »

just cause is good just cause is good

gtfo .