[Intelligent Discussions] Competition

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Competition [Intelligent Discussion #8]


Topic: What is your definition of competition? Is it something that can only be achieved by the top players? Why do you think our community has such a cement-held bias or prejudice on competitive gaming in Cross Fire. Do you think it could be improved (note : anything can be improved on, so don’t tell me that the competitive scene is perfect).

“You can't just beat a team, you have to leave a lasting impression in their minds so they never want to see you again” - Mia Hamm


I personally have seen both sides of the spectrum. I’ve played a bit in WOGL P S2 with de[N]ied, also known as #team.liquid for a portion of the season, but our season was cut short due to some bans handed out to my teammates [yes, I know, troll away]. I’ve also played ESL Cup 2 with team amaze, who have also died. Ironically, we still played Cup 3. But, I’ve also been a “pub”-star, so I kind of know what it is like to be on the left or the right side of the game’s spectrum.

But that isn’t exactly what I want to talk about right now. What I want to talk about is what is competition. What do I define competition as? Is it a feat of power? Is it an opportunity for super-titans to boast their skills and to “murk” other players who wish to be like them? No, I think it is anything, whether it being an organized professional game or just a run in the open public room that you may happen to come across on the occasion, which there are two players who wish to defeat the other. That is the real definition of competition. In Cross Fire’s case, it is competition when two teams, Black List and Global Risk, fight for the round. If it wasn’t competitive, it would be a casual, you shoot me, I shoot you. Not every public room is a “competitive room” however. It is only competitive, as stated before, when both teams have intent on winning and eliminating the other. The tag “WOGL” or “ESL” does not need to be present, nor does there need to be a monetary prize.

That being said, what’s up with the “try-hard” plague going around? Trying hard does not necessarily mean holding down the shift button or actually using your ears. It can mean trying to the most of your ability to get the round. Thus, bringing us back to competition. Here is the motto I live by when I pub, if you are going to shoot, why miss shots? You’re shooting bullets anyways. In a war, do you purposely shoot to miss if you are truly loyal to your country? No, you try to make every shot count. In the NBA, do players “purposely” try to miss shots? No, that’s their reputation on the line.

I personally think that the term “try-hard” has it’s own meaning. It’s the community’s self-sculpted idea of a player in a room. From what I’ve observed, walking is called trying hard in a public room, but in a scrim room, it’s considered being smart and using your ears to win the round. You don’t know the skill level of every single player in the game, therefore you are at no liberty to make the assumption that the player is trying his hardest, but most generally make that prejudice comment and usually start a flame war that goes like this [not very intelligent, but it gets the point across] :

• [Player A] walks from CT to A Window
• [Player B] gets fragged by [Player A] because Player A pulled a shneaky.
• Player B : noob.
• Player A : get good kid.
• Player B : try hard.
• Player A : how was I trying hard?
• Player B : you were walking like a noob LOLOLOLOL.
• Player A : how does that mean trying hard?
• Player B : it just is
• Player A : Didn’t I get the frag on your anyhow?
• [Player B] has left the room.

Sure there are huge names from huge teams in huge leagues such as malte[gr] from vVv in WOGL and thedoop* from PCG/LPK in ESL, but those are just some names of the top players. Competitive gaming does not equal professional gaming. Though vVv and PCG get sponsored and can be called professional, they are not expected to always play professionally. Malte does not always have to drop 50's in pubs and doesn’t always have to carry. Competitiveness can exist in players that are not considered a top player. Whether it is a public room to a Beta Clan Scrim, they don’t have to be the best in order to be competitive.

I think that our version of Cross Fire has such as cement-held bias on competitive players because they themselves have been subjected to them. Many “want-to-be” competitive players generally put a bad image out, of egotistic players who could care less. I’ve played against top players in my career, both in leagues and off leagues, and I know that the team is a top team when they show respect. A simple “gg” does not always mean “get good” but can mean “good game” as well. A simple “ns” can suffice. I know that many top teams do not speak unless aggravated. You will most likely not go into a game with Roth [blitzed] and be trolled by him randomly. Either you will do something such as call him bad, or do something such as use an M12s. I know that they will have courtesy, and I show it back to them when I play with them.

The competitive scene could be improved on so much. For one, respect can be something that should come into play. I know that ESL has implemented a rule in which a team loses a round for almost every single derogatory lack of respect that comes out.


Thanks for reading,


HitK [formerly HiTenKaey and SirHi]