Ghost take reg noob
I just got kicked from fortress about an hour ago, by host instead of vote kick. My score in the game, even ace and mvp, is far away to makes others think I was hacker. In one words, I, and my team, was owned by the opponents, mainly 1 very good rifler and 3 other good aimer.
So I have to camp in base, shooting back to hold our last place to stand. The I suddenly read: "Ghost take reg, noob".
It takes me quite some time to guess what it means. So I call for a campaign to use plain English in the game
Anyway, I guess I got the point at last ---- I should die but I didn't. Is it my fault? Either the system has lost registration or he is not so good at aiming. The logic is apparently from the brain of a kid.
So I want your opinion, SHOULD WE GET RID OF THE KICK OPTION BY HOST IF HE DOESN'T REALLY HOST A ROOM.
My first reason: I believe when the power is given to only 1, it is more easily to be abused. Example? I had kicked all the opponents several times for not vote to kick a glitcher or hacker, because I am in rage and therefore I think I am right.
The another reason to get rid of this kick is because a hacker seldom stay till they get kicked. They quit the room after score showed, and then join again after game start. And because it can only be done at the end of the match, the hacker already ruin the gameplay.
Summary:
It is the host kick that should be removed for following reason.
1. A room starter can regulate the room by ban list if implemented.
2. A room host is normally random player picked up (by order in factor).
3. A host kick can rarely applied on hackers.
4. Even success on kick a hacker, the game player is ruined.
5. Random selected host can create lots of strange logic to kick a player.
And
I got kicked more by host. And it is painful to know these kids can ruin the game in any way I can imagine.
So I have to camp in base, shooting back to hold our last place to stand. The I suddenly read: "Ghost take reg, noob".
It takes me quite some time to guess what it means. So I call for a campaign to use plain English in the game
Anyway, I guess I got the point at last ---- I should die but I didn't. Is it my fault? Either the system has lost registration or he is not so good at aiming. The logic is apparently from the brain of a kid.
So I want your opinion, SHOULD WE GET RID OF THE KICK OPTION BY HOST IF HE DOESN'T REALLY HOST A ROOM.
My first reason: I believe when the power is given to only 1, it is more easily to be abused. Example? I had kicked all the opponents several times for not vote to kick a glitcher or hacker, because I am in rage and therefore I think I am right.
The another reason to get rid of this kick is because a hacker seldom stay till they get kicked. They quit the room after score showed, and then join again after game start. And because it can only be done at the end of the match, the hacker already ruin the gameplay.
Summary:
It is the host kick that should be removed for following reason.
1. A room starter can regulate the room by ban list if implemented.
2. A room host is normally random player picked up (by order in factor).
3. A host kick can rarely applied on hackers.
4. Even success on kick a hacker, the game player is ruined.
5. Random selected host can create lots of strange logic to kick a player.
And
I got kicked more by host. And it is painful to know these kids can ruin the game in any way I can imagine.
Comments
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get a life kid quit QQing and just uninstall....BR fdps this days..I just got kicked from fortress about an hour ago, by host instead of vote kick. My score in the game, even ace and mvp, is far away to makes others think I was hacker. In one words, I, and my team, was owned by the opponents, mainly 1 very good rifler and 3 other good aimer.
So I have to camp in base, shooting back to hold our last place to stand. The I suddenly read: "Ghost take reg, noob".
It takes me quite some time to guess what it means. So I call for a campaign to use plain English in the game
Anyway, I guess I got the point at last ---- I should die but I didn't. Is it my fault? Either the system has lost registration or he is not so good at aiming. The logic is apparently from the brain of a kid.
So I want your opinion, SHOULD WE GET RID OF THE KICK OPTION BY HOST IF HE DOESN'T REALLY HOST A ROOM.
My first reason: I believe when the power is given to only 1, it is more easily to be abused. Example? I had kicked all the opponents several times for not vote to kick a glitcher or hacker, because I am in rage and therefore I think I am right.
The another reason to get rid of this kick is because a hacker seldom stay till they get kicked. They quit the room after score showed, and then join again after game start. And because it can only be done at the end of the match, the hacker already ruin the gameplay.
Summary:
It is the host kick that should be removed for following reason.
1. A room starter can regulate the room by ban list if implemented.
2. A room host is normally random player picked up (by order in factor).
3. A host kick can rarely applied on hackers.
4. Even success on kick a hacker, the game player is ruined.
5. Random selected host can create lots of strange logic to kick a player.
And
I got kicked more by host. And it is painful to know these kids can ruin the game in any way I can imagine. -
madeonearth wrote: »get a life kid quit QQing and just uninstall....BR fdps this days..
sounds like a br is here.now they are invading forums
lol first of all hes making a sugestion and asking for your opinion not QQ-ing kid
second on topic i think they should put like this snd,gm,e.m.( 4x kicking vote) tdm(2x kicking vote)
MM and HM and FFA (1x kicking vote if 51 % of players agree (f11) hes kickd)
for host i would say that he can have 2+ more of regular kicking so i think that system would work.so that is my opinion -
In game, the host has no more power than anyone else in the room in terms of kicking, this is to make sure the host doesn't have an unfair advantage.
Unfortunately for the 'banlist' option requires coding that might not be feasible for the game. The room host is always the person who creates the room first, and when they leave only then does it jump to a random person.
After the game it doesn't really matter if they kick you, there are other rooms and other servers so its not that big of a deal.
Removal of the kickvote system will probably never happen for obvious reasons even if such a 'banlist' was implemented.
Sadly I'm going to have to say, wrongful kicking is something we have to get used to until the people learn to be more accepting and tolerable. We all usually go through it. -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »In game, the host has no more power than anyone else in the room in terms of kicking, this is to make sure the host doesn't have an unfair advantage.
Unfortunately for the 'banlist' option requires coding that might not be feasible for the game. The room host is always the person who creates the room first, and when they leave only then does it jump to a random person.
After the game it doesn't really matter if they kick you, there are other rooms and other servers so its not that big of a deal.
Removal of the kickvote system will probably never happen for obvious reasons even if such a 'banlist' was implemented.
Sadly I'm going to have to say, wrongful kicking is something we have to get used to until the people learn to be more accepting and tolerable. We all usually go through it.
Host jump isn't random, it goes to the top-most player in the lobby. -
Host jump isn't random, it goes to the top-most player in the lobby.
Really? Hrm, i've been host even on the bottom before, wierd. And top from left to right? Since there's two top slots.Gonna have to check it out anyways at least. Just to make sure. -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »In game, the host has no more power than anyone else in the room in terms of kicking, this is to make sure the host doesn't have an unfair advantage.
Unfortunately for the 'banlist' option requires coding that might not be feasible for the game. The room host is always the person who creates the room first, and when they leave only then does it jump to a random person.
After the game it doesn't really matter if they kick you, there are other rooms and other servers so its not that big of a deal.
Removal of the kickvote system will probably never happen for obvious reasons even if such a 'banlist' was implemented.
Sadly I'm going to have to say, wrongful kicking is something we have to get used to until the people learn to be more accepting and tolerable. We all usually go through it.
i agreed but still shouldnt be there like host have powers like that he can prevent kicking vote or have more adventage like if a regular player can kick 2 times then host can do 4 times? i think that would be awsome. -
exNatedogg54 wrote: »i agreed but still shouldnt be there like host have powers like that he can prevent kicking vote or have more adventage like if a regular player can kick 2 times then host can do 4 times? i think that would be awsome.
Well, I don't know really, guess it depends on the situation at hand. After all although it could benefit it could also be negative these ways as well:
-Players voting off host to gain host's extra power (like the ace kick sessions)
-haker being host and gaining more kick options
-You being kicked by abusive host in game more than anyone else.
I could run such an idea through and see how well ti might work, but like everything it has flaws. -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »Really? Hrm, i've been host even on the bottom before, wierd. And top from left to right? Since there's two top slots.Gonna have to check it out anyways at least. Just to make sure.
My flawed memory says it's top, I can't remember ane time I've seen it go to a different person, although it's not like I look for it =\ -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »Well, I don't know really, guess it depends on the situation at hand. After all although it could benefit it could also be negative these ways as well:
-Players voting off host to gain host's extra power (like the ace kick sessions)
-haker being host and gaining more kick options
-You being kicked by abusive host in game more than anyone else.
I could run such an idea through and see how well ti might work, but like everything it has flaws.
yea ik that is the few problems.hmm guesing my opinion is bad after all.
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When I called a player a hacker on a game that happened months ago and killing ppl with a spas 12 in lost relics when I shot the bomb guy. Thats when they hit the gtfo button on me.
Really ppl? Is this what players have gone down to nowadays? A miserable pile of excuses why they lost! Sigh. -
I know it does not affect my score. But it feels more terrible than being vote kicked. It is from one person's decision. And the reason might be never logical.
The reason I think it can be removed is:
1. Player get kicked after game, only legit player who is trying to do better will stay, hacker and glitcher will normally left quickly before we kick and come back after game start.
2. No reason is need to kick, and no public agreement is needed.
3. After real host left, the host is totally random.
So I feel it is useless, and will teach kids to abuse the systems.
Now I have no other choice but to find another room -- that is also sad.
With credit system, we choose give the power to the host with more credit.
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AND I NEVET THINK VOTE KICK SHOULD BE REMOVED. It is more efficient against hacker than current host kick. -
exNatedogg54 wrote: »yea ik that is the few problems.hmm guesing my opinion is bad after all.
Naw your opinion is good, as said, I'll see what the others think first, doesn't hurt to ask after all. Every idea has its issues somewhere, its called brainstorming. ^..^ Don't let it discourage ya. Even I have opinions that many could be considered terrible. ;p -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »Naw your opinion is good, as said, I'll see what the others think first, doesn't hurt to ask after all. Every idea has its issues somewhere, its called brainstorming. ^..^ Don't let it discourage ya. Even I have opinions that many could be considered terrible. ;p
hmm thx for cheering my head up.thx.here:*gives a cookie* -
I know it does not affect my score. But it feels more terrible than being vote kicked. It is from one person's decision. And the reason might be never logical.
The reason I think it can be removed is:
1. Player get kicked after game, only legit player who is trying to do better will stay, hacker and glitcher will normally left quickly before we kick and come back after game start.
2. No reason is need to kick, and no public agreement is needed.
3. After real host left, the host is totally random.
So I feel it is useless, and will teach kids to abuse the systems.
Now I have no other choice but to find another room -- that is also sad.
With credit system, we choose give the power to the host with more credit.
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AND I NEVET THINK VOTE KICK SHOULD BE REMOVED. It is more efficient against hacker than current host kick.
What if instead there is a vote agreement? After all, if you've ever been to the clan server, you can't actually kick anyone from the room, the problem with that is, people tend to either sit there to be idle, or they stay there to harass or abuse players. Persistent ones will in fact stalk you. Which is mostly the reason host kick happens, they just don't want to play with you. -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »Really? Hrm, i've been host even on the bottom before, wierd. And top from left to right? Since there's two top slots.Gonna have to check it out anyways at least. Just to make sure.
According to my observation. It is the top slot. I think the game filled the list as following, BL1, GR 1, BL2, GR2.....
So there is in fact an order number of joining the room for each player. The new host the who take the slot.
Even though there is a rule, the result is still random. Because who will leave, when to leave, and who will fill, and when to fill are all random.
A RANDOM KID WILL HAVE THE POWER OF PRESIDENT, BUT THERE IS NO CONGRESS. -
[MOD]Kelathe wrote: »What if instead there is a vote agreement? After all, if you've ever been to the clan server, you can't actually kick anyone from the room, the problem with that is, people tend to either sit there to be idle, or they stay there to harass or abuse players. Persistent ones will in fact stalk you. Which is mostly the reason host kick happens, they just don't want to play with you.
I neglected these fact. But can't it be done by vote?
I believe vote is best] -
Leaving da room (to avoid getting kicked after a game) is a good habit.
Sometimes you are beat so hard that you want to make another try.
And sometimes I can only find 1 fortress map. After I join, it is quickly filled up. So I would not risk to go out and get the other take my position.
Another complain here about the host ---- they will change the map to Alaska all the time
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