More Server Maintenance!!!

Hi, Dev's & Mod's

I'm sure most of the community have realised by now that we have been having some weird lagging problems lately in almost all if not all Servers during in game. I have realised this myself just the fact that I play with a Status/Ping of 15-22 & a 40-55 FPS in a full room in UK4 Server. So there's no reason why I should be lagging every (Approximately) 20 seconds, therefore i'm sure its not me its the damn Servers because they need to all be maintained more often, example every month or two would be great instead of every 6+ months.

I have spoken to other players in game to confirm this issue & they have also told me the same exact thing. There really is a problem with the Servers we can't play like this. Most of my aiming fails lately & I never use to have so much struggle in killing players in my 2 years CF experience until now which is a shame its like CF is full of problems these days that are left unresolved making CF go downhill. I just hope GM's look at my thread & check themselves in game to notice this annoying issue, so they can tell Dev's to do something about this problem (Crossfire STAFF put yourselves together & try harder or players after players will stop playing CF).

Feel free to comment,
Thanks!

Comments

  • Can the community comment on my thread, so I ain't alone on this (I need support).:confused:
  • Well not much to say, because they aint gonna do anything about it.

    When the UK servers were first implemented my ping would range between 40-50-60 at max.

    A few months after that, big surprise, i had 250 ping exactly on UK1, 2 and 5.

    I didnt change ISP, my ISP didnt change cables, nothing! Luckily on UK3 and UK4 i still got the 50-60 ping, but sometimes with spikes.

    I have no idea what happend, but i was hoping things would change back to normal after a while, 50-60 ping on all servers. Hell no, but whatever they did, it seems permanent, which sucks.

    Now i just wish a new server somewhere in Central Europe. My suggestion? Hungary,Romania,Ukraine,Bulgaria, any of these because servers in Germany,Switzerland,Belgium,Holland,France, etc would be too close to UK and actually not worth setting up.
  • I can confirm this problem on UK1 & UK2. 3 & 4 are stable for me.
  • I used to have 20 ping, now im on 40. Thats a 100 percent increase? wut?
  • Happens in Bravo server too. o-o

    Not frequently, but enough to get irritating.
  • Well I had a huge ping issue back in the X-mas patch. Sometime past noon my ping would freak out and the gameplay felt like I was underwater. Then I realize what my ping spiked to. My normal ping is 80 in the alpha-Charlie Servers, then at noon, it spiked to 150. Then at night it went to 280. It wasn't until they had released the HM patch that my ping stabilized again. So I sincerely doubt that whatever ping issues I had along with other people who had experience this problem, is not because of our ISP.
  • Not only the ping they need to fix's the hacks due to the fact that I daily see hacker's running around almost in everygame. In addition they take a look to the spambots who keep spaming free hacks..which is another pain.
  • The European servers are generally out of handling reach of Z8Games [their headquarters are in Toronto, Ontario, Canada]. The servers in Europe are a long whiles away, across a sea. If something goes wrong or rile, all Z8Games can do is talk to the server managers via the internet or a conference call.

    Sure, maintenance can help, but it is the quality of the server. The servers aren't as strong as the ones in Canada because, let's face it, Europe isn't as technologically advanced as North America [if I may say that]. Gaming isn't taken very seriously there there, so they do not find the need to have a very good server "hosting" site. Z8Games took the best host, but the best may not be enough.

    We have thousands or tens of thousands of players in the European servers. That many connections on a less-than-desirable server quality can sometimes cause "lags" or "latencies".

    "Maintenance" on the server will merely reset it, so less players play on it, or look into issues with the connectivity. Generally, this will work, but it's not a permanent thing. And getting in touch with the server managers [who possibly have to work with hundreds of other companies] is pretty hard. It's like a visit to the orthodontist, you make an appointment, and you come in. If you have to pay for an appointment, it can be a real pain.

    I'm sorry that you can't play as well in the European servers. Trust me, I remember when I was playing a European game, and didn't feel like I was treated correctly, but you have to live through it. A bit of lag doesn't hurt anyone. You also stated, everyone has it, so we're all on the same boat.
  • HitK wrote: »
    The European servers are generally out of handling reach of Z8Games [their headquarters are in Toronto, Ontario, Canada]. The servers in Europe are a long whiles away, across a sea. If something goes wrong or rile, all Z8Games can do is talk to the server managers via the internet or a conference call.

    Sure, maintenance can help, but it is the quality of the server. The servers aren't as strong as the ones in Canada because, let's face it, Europe isn't as technologically advanced as North America [if I may say that]. Gaming isn't taken very seriously there there, so they do not find the need to have a very good server "hosting" site. Z8Games took the best host, but the best may not be enough.

    We have thousands or tens of thousands of players in the European servers. That many connections on a less-than-desirable server quality can sometimes cause "lags" or "latencies".

    "Maintenance" on the server will merely reset it, so less players play on it, or look into issues with the connectivity. Generally, this will work, but it's not a permanent thing. And getting in touch with the server managers [who possibly have to work with hundreds of other companies] is pretty hard. It's like a visit to the orthodontist, you make an appointment, and you come in. If you have to pay for an appointment, it can be a real pain.

    I'm sorry that you can't play as well in the European servers. Trust me, I remember when I was playing a European game, and didn't feel like I was treated correctly, but you have to live through it. A bit of lag doesn't hurt anyone. You also stated, everyone has it, so we're all on the same boat.


    True, but if z8 is responsable with server purchase, why not buy a more stable and performant one?

    And a about maitenance, surely they have people hired here in the UK that deal with that. And saying that they are less skilled than those in the US would be a insult.

    Its probable that Internet isn't so evolved or widespread than in the US, but its good enough and fast growing. Besides, look at Japan, so much technology, yet nature wreacked havoc and destroyed much of the countrys resources in a few days.

    In other words, don't brag too much of how the US is much better than Europe. If people from different parts of Europe have ping problems with servers in the UK, its either the servers fault or their network in the UK.

    Thats my opinion, so flame if you want, i appreciate opening these servers in the UK, but believe me i would've supported Germany to host servers.
  • In other news, my ping and many with me have decreased significantly.


    The internet is always subject to change, in good ways and bad.
    Some people will experience increases and decreases of ping, as everyone does.
    If a router on the route from you to one of our servers goes bad, its unfortunate and might stay as such for a while, but its out of our hands obviously.

    No massive amount of data is stored on our game servers, so theres no real 'maintenance' in the sense of cleaning the servers up, to be done.
  • Recently I kept asking where is the game room hosted, because sometimes I got stable 250ping, while most of time I should have 49 or 51.
  • HitK wrote: »
    The European servers are generally out of handling reach of Z8Games [their headquarters are in Toronto, Ontario, Canada]. The servers in Europe are a long whiles away, across a sea. If something goes wrong or rile, all Z8Games can do is talk to the server managers via the internet or a conference call.

    Sure, maintenance can help, but it is the quality of the server. The servers aren't as strong as the ones in Canada because, let's face it, Europe isn't as technologically advanced as North America [if I may say that]. Gaming isn't taken very seriously there there, so they do not find the need to have a very good server "hosting" site. Z8Games took the best host, but the best may not be enough.

    We have thousands or tens of thousands of players in the European servers. That many connections on a less-than-desirable server quality can sometimes cause "lags" or "latencies".

    "Maintenance" on the server will merely reset it, so less players play on it, or look into issues with the connectivity. Generally, this will work, but it's not a permanent thing. And getting in touch with the server managers [who possibly have to work with hundreds of other companies] is pretty hard. It's like a visit to the orthodontist, you make an appointment, and you come in. If you have to pay for an appointment, it can be a real pain.

    I'm sorry that you can't play as well in the European servers. Trust me, I remember when I was playing a European game, and didn't feel like I was treated correctly, but you have to live through it. A bit of lag doesn't hurt anyone. You also stated, everyone has it, so we're all on the same boat.

    You sound like an american. Less technologically advanced? Gaming not taken serious? We can't buy strong servers in europe? It's time you pay a visit to us before drawing any conclusions.

    broadbandspeedchart.jpg

    well well well.. great residential internet in the USA, even poland surpasses you!
  • Sphere86 wrote: »
    You sound like an american. Less technologically advanced? Gaming not taken serious? We can't buy strong servers in europe? It's time you pay a visit to us before drawing any conclusions.

    broadbandspeedchart.jpg

    well well well.. great residential internet in the USA, even poland surpasses you!


    I haven't been to Europe, sorry for drawing conclusions, it was a guess, but I've seen their servers compared to Canadian servers in other games. Gaming may be serious, but not as serious as football or rugby.

    I've played games with European servers, and they're not as strong as the North American servers if the game's headquarters are in North America. It's just an assumption behind experience.

    Z8 is purchasing the best servers. The one in London, as I heard, is exceptional.

    I'm Canadian.

    Residential internet does not equal technology. Great, you have more ISP. Server hosting is much more than having a laptop connect to another laptop. It's having hundreds of thousands of laptops connect to a huge super computer.
  • Well, my ping was 125~130 on US south server and now it is 170~190! i thought that was my internet faul but all my friends are laggin like hell there, there is something wrong with the servers!
  • HitK wrote: »
    I haven't been to Europe, sorry for drawing conclusions, it was a guess, but I've seen their servers compared to Canadian servers in other games. Gaming may be serious, but not as serious as football or rugby.

    I've played games with European servers, and they're not as strong as the North American servers if the game's headquarters are in North America. It's just an assumption behind experience.

    Z8 is purchasing the best servers. The one in London, as I heard, is exceptional.

    If i can make a guess crossfire is just running on a bunch of servers with dual quadcore processors. Each channel runs on a seperate server. These servers provide the best performance/price ratio (compared to i.e. 4-processor servers) and are strong enough to host a channel. We don't have any problems buying those over here. Actually we can buy any fast server here, and if the manufacturer isn't located here, they'll ship it within a few days. Besides that almost all computer equipment in the USA is fabricated in asia anyway so that doesn't make a large difference. We also have a great internet backbone that the USA won't surpass. The distances between countries are smalles than the states in the USA which has some advantages for creating a good internet infrastructure.

    From my experience playing on CF servers, there is no difference between USA or UK.
    The thing that ruins the game play experience are people from the other side of the world playing with a ping of 400, but they are both on USA and UK servers.
  • Lol! Finally people commenting which is good.
    It's a shame if this is a problem we will have to live with on CF. Hopefully its not a permanent state & that this issue gets noticed & resolved sometime soon. After all we deserve good quality gaming because some of us waste real money for ZP & its not fair if we don't get good quality servers to enjoy our purchased content on.

    PS: Something needs to be done about Hackers, because its just getting outrageous. Make more vigorous restrictions or banning instead of just stupid 7 days ban which isn't punishing enough. It's getting out of hand Z8games need to protect & patch new client more often, otherwise CF fails! :mad:
  • also in alpha im about to uninstall this game and start playing s4 or something
  • Tuga1991 wrote: »
    Lol! Finally people commenting which is good.
    It's a shame if this is a problem we will have to live with on CF. Hopefully its not a permanent state & that this issue gets noticed & resolved sometime soon. After all we deserve good quality gaming because some of us waste real money for ZP & its not fair if we don't get good quality servers to enjoy our purchased content on.

    PS: Something needs to be done about Hackers, because its just getting outrageous. Make more vigorous restrictions or banning instead of just stupid 7 days ban which isn't punishing enough. It's getting out of hand Z8games need to protect & patch new client more often, otherwise CF fails! :mad:

    once a month isnt enough? They patch more than any other game I have seen... Other than Mars wars.
  • Rabbz wrote: »
    once a month isnt enough? They patch more than any other game I have seen... Other than Mars wars.

    Ye OK they do patch a new client once a month, but I don't see any difference in game. We all ways get bugs & irritating errors every time they do so. Game protection isn't that great either. I know its hard to keep the game running perfectly, but I don't see any improvements & also Hackers getting reduced in fact its getting worse by the day.:(