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Peanut_Power wrote: »Silencer on an AK - 47... that's just stupid..No, stupid is posting something like what you just posted.
Seriously, why is it okay for a M4A1 to get a suppressor, but not for an AK-47. Aren't the M4A1 and the AK-47 each other's equals? One has the accuracy, the other the power. The suppressor doesn't boost the power on an M4A1, nor will it reduce the recoil of an AK-47. So both guns will keep their drawbacks, either with or without a suppressor.
A suppressor only reduces the sound of the shot fired. It will not reduce the sound of the mechanics of the rifle. Both the shot fired, as well as the mechanics of the AK-47 are louder than those of the M4A1. So even if you slap a suppressor on an AK-47, its mechanics alone will still make it louder than a suppressed M4A1.
This is why I hate the word "silencer". It gives the unenlightened and the unintelligent the wrong impression. The impression that when you put a suppressor on an AK-47 it will suddenly becomes an overpowered killing machine that no one will be able to hear. As if the AK-47 loses all of its drawbacks all of a sudden if you make it a little bit quieter.
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No, stupid is posting something like what you just posted.
Seriously, why is it okay for a M4A1 to get a suppressor, but not for an AK-47. Aren't the M4A1 and the AK-47 each other's equals? One has the accuracy, the other the power. The suppressor doesn't boost the power on an M4A1, nor will it reduce the recoil of an AK-47. So both guns will keep their drawbacks, either with or without a suppressor.
A suppressor only reduces the sound of the shot fired. It will not reduce the sound of the mechanics of the rifle. Both the shot fired, as well as the mechanics of the AK-47 are louder than those of the M4A1. So even if you slap a suppressor on an AK-47, its mechanics alone will still make it louder than a suppressed M4A1.
This is why I hate the word "silencer". It gives the unenlightened and the unintelligent the wrong impression. The impression that when you put a suppressor on an AK-47 it will suddenly becomes an overpowered killing machine that no one will be able to hear. As if the AK-47 loses all of its drawbacks all of a sudden if you make it a little bit quieter.
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this ^ The ak will still have it's heavy recoil and it'll be louder than a silenced m4a1, maybe a little more than the mp5-adv?
Oh well, making it quieter will make it a great weapon for GM, since it got power, but will not be loud as hell, so you'll won't mess up with your teammates.
It'll give you a tactical advantage, being able to kill without being hear by people on the other side of the map will give you some advantages against un-suppressed weapons, at the cost of real money (since it'll proably be a ZP crate gun). -
LOL
It would be cool,but it wouldn't be a good idea
AK-47 silencer? I mean,have you ever seen one in real life or something like that?Seen one, held one, fired one.
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Seen one, held one, fired one.
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well, i have to say that we cannot go against that argument lol -
Did you even read the above posts? A >>>SUPPRESSED<<< AK would still maintain it's original stats with just some slight changes and have a suppressor added. The suppressor would not make the shots unnoticeable, it would only be >>>SUPPRESSED<<< to an extent. The suppressor would help players in GM who prefer AK's over M4's but can't deal with the earsplitting noise.forever119 wrote: »it's not gonna work.. even in real life, people try to attach a silencer to ak, but still loud as hell.. . ..
it's made n meant to be loud -
forever119 wrote: »it's not gonna work.. even in real life, people try to attach a silencer to ak, but still loud as hell.. . ..
it's made n meant to be loudNo gun in made OR meant to be loud. Guns are made and meant to kill, period.
Also, with subsonic ammunition, the only sound you will hear on a suppressed AK-47, is the sharp click of the bolt. Loud? yes. But its nowhere near as loud as an unsuppressed AK-47 using normal ammo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeKquXp8gKY
A suppressor and subsonic ammunition can reduce the sound of an AK-47 by 80%. That's a huge difference.
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This ^
Best idea EVER! -
No gun in made OR meant to be loud. Guns are made and meant to kill, period.
Also, with subsonic ammunition, the only sound you will hear on a suppressed AK-47, is the sharp click of the bolt. Loud? yes. But its nowhere near as loud as an unsuppressed AK-47 using normal ammo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeKquXp8gKY
A suppressor and subsonic ammunition can reduce the sound of an AK-47 by 80%. That's a huge difference.
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diferrent ammos lolzzz..
it's a fail. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgzarL4ZD4&feature=related look at this.. it's not gonna work, it's the ammo it's changed, than it's not ak anymore. -
forever119 wrote: »diferrent ammos lolzzz..
it's a fail. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgzarL4ZD4&feature=related look at this.. it's not gonna work, it's the ammo it's changed, than it's not ak anymore.
you can have subsonic 7.62x39mm subsonic cartridges, you just need to dose correctly the powder and use the right bullet grains.
And it's going to work, just need some adjustements on the recoil spring to it to allow full automatic fire, so, it's not a fail, you're a fail :rolleyes: -
you can have subsonic 7.62x39mm subsonic cartridges, you just need to dose correctly the powder and use the right bullet grains.
And it's going to work, just need some adjustements on the recoil spring to it to allow full automatic fire, so, it's not a fail, you're a fail :rolleyes:
if those were changed, the power will changed, people wants the power of ak but silenced.
i guess u're failing again.. -
forever119 wrote: »if those were changed, the power will changed, people wants the power of ak but silenced.
i guess u're failing again..
have you ever seen why the AK has so much power?
look at the big chunk of metal that it spits out, even with subsonic speeds, it still manages to tranfer most of it's energy into the target, also, with a lower speed, there's a chance of the bullet actually cause more damage to the target, since it have more time to spread the energy inside them.
so, study some more, shoot some chunks of meat, do not be an troll please :rolleyes: -
I wonder why no military uses silenced AKs!? Hmmm I'll let you guys think that over for a bit.
because it's cheaper to buy an mp5sd3 than customizing an ak-47 to allow full automatic fire with subsonic ammo and a supressor, so, it's all business, also, the mp5sd3 shoots bullets too, so it can kill, and it's not necessary a bigger caliber in real, because everyone will drop after being shot in the head.
but, in this game, people tend to do not die quickly with mp5 shots, we want to have a gun that have a good power (still lower than the normal ak-47 tough) and it's suppressed. -
because it's cheaper to buy an mp5sd3 than customizing an ak-47 to allow full automatic fire with subsonic ammo and a supressor, so, it's all business, also, the mp5sd3 shoots bullets too, so it can kill, and it's not necessary a bigger caliber in real, because everyone will drop after being shot in the head.
but, in this game, people tend to do not die quickly with mp5 shots, we want to have a gun that have a good power (still lower than the normal ak-47 tough) and it's suppressed.
Then why not asked for a suppressed AWM then? Then all the people that love to snipe can have an AWM-Custom! We don't have a silenced sniper rifle as we should!
On another note,
I was being sarcastic. I know the logistics behind it however the MP5SDX series is for CQ combat. You can't compare an SMG to an assault rifle. And everyone needs to get off of subsonic ammo. That's simply stupid. Subsonic ammo has no practical sense! -
Then why not asked for a silenced AWM then? Then all the people that love to snipe can have an AWM-Custom! We don't have a silenced sniper rifle as we should!
On another note,
LOL I was being sarcastic. I know the logistics behind it however the MP5SDX series is for CQ combat. You can't compare an SMG to an assault rifle.
suppressed weaponry is for CQC, so soldiers will actually have an advantage, since some of the shots may sound like a rock falling off a building and so, they'll won't notice so soon they're getting shot without actually seeing people getting shot.
Extending this kind of suppressors to AR's will make the AR's a better choice for long term operations wich may find situations where they need to have suppressed weaponry, without having to carry a mp5sdX, or they need an extension to the weapon's range (the mp5sdx series have an effective range of about 180 meters, but it's 9mm cartridge may not penetrate body armour) and get a chance to penetrate trough body armor without having to carry speacial rounds or so.
There's nothing like an silenced AWM, maybe a supressed one so the heardable aread will be smaller, and dealling with the muzzle flare (wich is a big of a problem in combat) will be easier. -
suppressed weaponry is for CQC, so soldiers will actually have an advantage, since some of the shots may sound like a rock falling off a building and so, they'll won't notice so soon they're getting shot without actually seeing people getting shot.
Extending this kind of suppressors to AR's will make the AR's a better choice for long term operations wich may find situations where they need to have suppressed weaponry, without having to carry a mp5sdX, or they need an extension to the weapon's range (the mp5sdx series have an effective range of about 180 meters, but it's 9mm cartridge may not penetrate body armour) and get a chance to penetrate trough body armor without having to carry speacial rounds or so.
There's nothing like an silenced AWM, maybe a supressed one so the heardable aread will be smaller, and dealling with the muzzle flare (wich is a big of a problem in combat) will be easier.
Well that's what I meant (suppressed). -
forever119 wrote: »diferrent ammos lolzzz..
it's a fail. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgzarL4ZD4&feature=related look at this.. it's not gonna work, it's the ammo it's changed, than it's not ak anymore.
Clearly you have no idea what subsonic ammunition is or what it does, kid. So the only fail I see here, is you.
Subsonic ammo is ammo that used a different explosive compound, reducing sound, because the bullet no longer travels faster than the speed of sound, and thus creating a small sonic boom. Subsonic ammunition hereby lowers the sound of a fired shot by +/- 100 dB. at the cost of lower velocity, often resulting in decreased range and effectiveness on the target. Effectiveness as in stopping power and penetrating capabilities, not damage. Damage is determent by the size of the bullet and how it fragments in tissue.
Typical AK-47 subsonic ammo is the 9x39mm. The round has an effective lethal range of 300 to 400 meters and a maximum penetration of up to 10 mm of steel. Which isn't that much lower than the standard 7.62x39mm round.I wonder why no military uses silenced AKs!? Hmmm I'll let you guys think that over for a bit.
Who says they don't? Besides, suppressors aren't standard military equipment. Its something used for special operations. So I have no doubt the SSO-Spetsnaz have used suppressed AK-47s from time to time.
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Clearly you have no idea what subsonic ammunition is or what it does, kid. So the only fail I see here, is you.
Subsonic ammo is ammo that used a different explosive compound, reducing sound, because the bullet no longer travels faster than the speed of sound, and thus creating a small sonic boom. Subsonic ammunition hereby lowers the sound of a fired shot by +/- 100 dB. at the cost of lower velocity, often resulting in decreased range and effectiveness on the target. Effectiveness as in stopping power and penetrating capabilities, not damage. Damage is determent by the size of the bullet and how it fragments in tissue.
Typical AK-47 subsonic ammo is the 9x39mm. The round has an effective lethal range of 300 to 400 meters and a maximum penetration of up to 10 mm of steel. Which isn't that much lower than the standard 7.62x39mm round.
Who says they don't? Besides, suppressors aren't standard military equipment. Its something used for special operations. So I have no doubt the SSO-Spetsnaz have used suppressed AK-47s from time to time.
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Actually the Spetsnaz don't use a suppressed AK47 they use a AS Val which has an integrated suppressor along with 9x39mm ammunition. So maybe that's what they could add to this game!
http://www.military-today.com/firearms/val.htm
Cite before you plagiarize next time. Information about the subsonic round 9x39mm round can be found here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x39mm -
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Do you have some sort of AK Silenced thread Geiger counter or radar or something? Within 10 posts of any ak silenced thread you're here lol. -
Do you have some sort of AK Silenced thread Geiger counter or radar or something? Within 10 posts of any ak silenced thread you're here lol.Shush, you! You're giving away my secrets.
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What do you think about this:
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/sons-of-guns-silenced-ak-47-test.html
Challenge was to build an INTERNALLY silenced AK. I think it looks pretty sweet.
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